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Box A Rox
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Here's one for ya boxy.....if ya got the balls to click on it.............


http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/


WoW bumble!!!  You really WOWED me with that one!!!  Is that supposed to shock me???
Bumble you know nothing about me.  You know nothing about my life or my values or what I've experienced.
I've seen much worse in person, not on some lame message board post of bogus abortion pics.

There are conservatives who would be impressed by your propaganda.  They would swoon at the blood, and fret about the suffering, but their compassion is limited to those pics.

Then there's the inevitable link to Hitler, of course.  Hitler has abortions so blah blah blah.

Abortion should be legal, safe, and rare.  If Conservatives were really concerned with reducing the number of abortions in America, they would fund family planning & birth control, instead they OPPOSE those programs which increase the number of abortions.  
This is a 'political' issue for them, not a human issue.  If a homeless woman with no money, no job, and no health care, were to become pregnant, here are her options in the RIGHT WING World.
Have an abortion, and watch the Right condemn her as a murderer
or
Have the baby and watch the Right condemn her as a welfare mom.
The Right offers no solution, just condemnation and ridicule.

There is nothing so hypocritical as the righteous indignation of the sanctimonious Conservative.




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MT,
If you only look at Right Wing Propaganda sites, you will only read Right Wing Propaganda.

Since this story first posted, there has been very little in the way of NEWS and quite a bit of Propaganda.

Why not site a REAL source.  If the story is true, then why back it up with links to only Right Wing Media?
I clicked on your CNSNEWS site.  They post that they are"
"The RIGHT news RIGHT now!". Their parent company?
Media Research Center, "America's Media Watchdog,"aims  to bring balance to the news media. Leaders of America's conservative movement have long believed that within the national news media a strident liberal bias existed that influenced the public's understanding of critical issues.

Really MT... Would YOU accept links to DailyKos, or Michael Moore, or other Liberal sites as legitimate???
If I post from an obscure Left Wing Blog as if it were actual NEWS, would you accept the content???

Of course you wouldn't but you consistently post from Right Wing sites & Blogs to prove your point as if it had some validity.



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You are kidding right? Since the early 70's, when the government decided to announce that women are 'victims' to their reproductive organs, there has been every kind of birth control known to a society on the market and in surgeons offices (tubaligations and vasectomies)....both for men and women. Family planning and early childhood sex education has been the norm for over 30 years. This information is plastered throughout every media outlet available. ......and yet after 40 years, we are suppose to accept and pay for people's lack of responsibility and common sense.

First....where in our constitution does it say that it is the role of government is be responsible for family planning or addressing a women's reproductive organs or controlling their sex life? It doesn't!!!!

Second....the vast majority of abortions are performed on lower class black females. It appears that after 40 years, the government and the media has done a successful job of dumbing down and keeping down the lower class blacks. It appears that the government is spending a ton of money, time and energy at keeping the black population down, wouldn't ya say?

So, as usual, it is yet another government, involved in personal lives program, gone bust! After 40 years....sex education, family planning and the gazillion means of birth control available still aren't working, is it?

One main difference between the animal world and humans, is that humans CAN control their reproduction organs, with very little knowledge and simple common sense! Dontcha agree?

It boils down to personal responsibility.


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First....where in our constitution does it say that it is the role of government is be responsible for family planning or addressing a women's reproductive organs or controlling their sex life? It doesn't!!!!

Second....the vast majority of abortions are performed on lower class black females.

It boils down to personal responsibility.


First~
It says NOTHING in the US Constitution about the Role of Govt  in family planning or a womans reproductive organs...
SO KEEP YOUR GRUBBY CONSERVATIVE LAWS OUT OF THAT AREA!
YOU HAVE NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO INTERFERE IN HER REPRODUCTIVE DECISIONS... BUT SHE HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PRIVACY!
Hypocritical Conservative Laws ARE the problem.  Abortions have ALWAYS been available to Rich Women, but poor women need to fight every Conservative politician in the country to have control over her own body.

Second~
"Lower Class Black Women"... that phrase says a lot!  It's more comfortable when the problem is a minority and poor... a group that can least afford to have a baby.

Your numbers are wrong of course, but FACTS don't seem to be a major concern...

53.6% of abortions are preformed on WHITE WOMEN
35.0% of abortions are preformed on Black  WOMEN
(Source Center for Disease Control - Abortion Surveillance — United States, 2006)
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/ss/ss5808.pdf

This thread is about Govt Funded Abortion... A bogus issue, but a lucrative issue for Conservatives to raise campaign contributions... (which is the point of this article and the disinformation)
Your post: "It boils down to personal responsibility"... I agree.  Give women the personal responsibility to manage their own health and reproduction and GET YOUR CONSERVATIVE LAWS OUT OF THEIR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!






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First~
It says NOTHING in the US Constitution about the Role of Govt  in family planning or a womans reproductive organs...
SO KEEP YOUR GRUBBY CONSERVATIVE LAWS OUT OF THAT AREA!


Does a fetus destroyed during partial birth abortion(infanticide) have Constitutional rights?


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53.6% of abortions are preformed on WHITE WOMEN
35.0% of abortions are preformed on Black  WOMEN
(Source Center for Disease Control - Abortion Surveillance — United States, 2006)
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/ss/ss5808.pdf



That is a misleading number.  African Americans are only 13% of the entire U.S. population, yet contribute to 35% of all abortions.  Caucasians are 80% of the U.S. population and contribute to 53.6% of all abortions.  

I don't know about you, but it looks as if the African American community has a much higher rate of abortion proportionately.


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Does a fetus destroyed during partial birth abortion(infanticide) have Constitutional rights?
No.





That is a misleading number.  African Americans are only 13% of the entire U.S. population, yet contribute to 35% of all abortions.  Caucasians are 80% of the U.S. and contribute to 53.6% of all abortions.  

I don't know about you, but it looks as if the African American community has a much higher rate of abortion proportionately.

If you want to debate your numbers of white vs black abortions, then post Bumble... he is the one interested in those numbers, and he is the one who posted inaccurate figures, I just corrected his mistake.



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If you want to debate your numbers of white vs black abortions, then post Bumble... he is the one interested in those numbers, and he is the one who posted inaccurate figures, I just corrected his mistake.




I was just correcting your correction of figures.  Pointing out that African American women have abortions at a higher rate (nearly 3 times higher) than Caucasian women based on your statistics.  So technically bumble is correct.  African American women are aborting babies at a higher rate than Caucasian women.


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I was just correcting your correction of figures.  Pointing out that African American women have abortions at a higher rate (nearly 3 times higher) than Caucasian women based on your statistics.  So technically bumble is correct.  African American women are aborting babies at a higher rate than Caucasian women.


No Technically you are INCORRECT.

Not Bumble nor anyone else ever mentioned RATE of Abortions.

HIS WORDS:
"the vast majority of abortions are performed on lower class black females".
THE FACTS:
The 'vast majority of abortions are preformed on WHITE FEMALES.


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NEWS FLASH,
But I doubt that many of you will read it since it is NOT from a right wing blog...
It's NOT from some Christian Anti-Choice Radical Right Wing site...
It's NOT from Fox News, Rush Loudmouth, or from the Rodeo Clown...

But from The US Dept of Health & Human Services"

http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2010pres/07/20100714d.html


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Mike is SO adept at facts.

You're really transparent Mike
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I tried to research your story but the only place that I could find it was at two Right Wing, Christian Anti Choice sites.


http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YjRiNTU0ZjU1NmY0ZDZiZjJhY2UxYWM5N2U1YjJmZjk=

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ig2n-N48bvgGAWA-wHlMPQpOdinQD9GV308O5
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NEWS FLASH,
But I doubt that many of you will read it since it is NOT from a right wing blog...
It's NOT from some Christian Anti-Choice Radical Right Wing site...
It's NOT from Fox News, Rush Loudmouth, or from the Rodeo Clown...

But from The US Dept of Health & Human Services"

http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2010pres/07/20100714d.html


Are you REALLY that brainwashed by the government? Do you REALLY believe every stat they put out there? Abortions became legal....not for the wealthy women or even the middle class women and certainly not for the white women...........oh no, the government had one class of people in mind when they forged through with PRO DEATH rights........It was clearly the black race!!! Dumb them down and kill them off........ Right out of hitler's handboodk.

Like I said before National Socialists aka NAZI'S are alive and well in the great usa and through out the world!! Wake up and smell the coffee boxy and look beyond the tunnel vision that the government want you to have!!! Don't be fooled by the bullcrap!


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Does a fetus destroyed during partial birth abortion(infanticide) have Constitutional rights?





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The Obama administration will give Pennsylvania $160 million to pay for health insurance plans that cover "any legal abortion."

(PoliFact)
http://www.politifact.com/trut.....eral-dollars-not-so/


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Picture this:
You've recently been through exhausting rounds of chemotherapy and radiation, you've been puking your guts up and your doctor warns you this is a particularly malignant cancer.

Then you find out through some miracle (or bizarre irony) that you're pregnant.

Your doctor warns you the chemo and radiation has put the fetus at risk. She also says the pregnancy could make it harder to effectively treat the cancer.
You have a hard decision ahead of you.

Hah hah, only kidding!
That decision's already been made for you!

Thanks to the pressure by Right Wingers on Obama Care, you will NOT be covered.  


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