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i would hope the department and DA would fully investigate the incident after which prosecute it in the
appropiate manner... Did they?


From the ONE article in the Gazette.  It said an immediate 15 suspension and two tickets were issued.  With such negligent behavior, you would think there would be some further actions taken.  But we'll never know.  ONE ARTICLE.  We pay this guy $80K to make sound decision while patrolling our neighborhoods, and he's leaving the scene of accidents a 2:30 in the morning. He's not just a patrolman,  HE'S A SERGEANT!  This is how our $135K police chief handles it, and our elected officials allow it to happen.    


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Maybe that's why Siggy is layin so low
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Again....there is MORE than enough blame to go around. This quaint little town of rotterdam has had political favors doled out for decades. No big whoop there.

What disturbs me is gb's comparison to Constantino's 'touchy feely' issue to signore's son 'police/trooper' issue. GB is actually 'trying' to make it look like one was worse than the other. When in fact NEITHER incidents should have occurred or should have been dealt with immediately. Ya know...the 'lesser of two evil' thing. Like spending $100,000 of taxpayer monies to further the career of a sitting councilman's son is somewhat 'better' in comparison than a 'touchy feely' supervisor.

Ya see folks, that is the mentality of 'old rotterdam'. And people are tired of it. That is why the NNTP is a breath of fresh air and is gaining momentum in this town. We no longer have to vote for 'the lesser of two evils'.! IMHO


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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So when Kirvin's son gets a police job that was OK, but when another guy who was related to a Republican board member gets a job it is a major scandal. Maybe both had the qualifications? Maybe Signore's kid didn't like the way he was treated after he was made a political scapegoat. Maybe there were elements there that didn't want him in the crowd and made him feel like his back wasn't covered...How do you tell a young person they cannot have a job in a police agency simply because they are related to some politician or some higher up? Because if you want to go by that standard how did all these nephews and sons and cousins of connected people get jobs in policing here and elsewhere. You would need to do your hiring from a list of people in the state of Rhode Island or Maryland!

Cicero, I hope you children never have to be persecuted for the job they took because you knew someone, somewhere in the organization. Trying to make out that there was unethical action or illegality is exactly what you do best, and you are incorrect again.

The whole argument began because Jigstutle said the bomber knew someone who knew someone who knew someone and it was "being investigated" and would lead to Tommasone! Well the news is that the people he knew, knew a LOT OF PEOPLE, all over town, in every direction. To try to link Tommasone with the mad bomber has to be the most desperate act of BS ever to be flung in this wild west of political forums!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Cicero, I hope you children never have to be persecuted for the job they took because you knew someone, somewhere in the organization. Trying to make out that there was unethical action or illegality is exactly what you do best, and you are incorrect again.


Speaking of ethics, what's your take on the Republican Party chair's law firm collecting money from the Rotterdam taxpayer? Am I incorrect on those allegations?  I never claim illegality, just an awful lot of unethical behavior.  Just another example of politicians making money off of the taxpayer. Did the Republicans put the legal service out to bid before awarding it to Parisi's law firm?  Get back to me with info GB...Thanks

Republicans justify their unethical behavior by comparing it to the Democrats unethical behavior.  I guess you would call that ethical relativity.  

VOTE NNTP!




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So who should Tommasone hire as a lawyer, a DEMOCRAT LAW FIRM? Just like Obama hires REPUBLICAN LAWYERS? And why would Tommasone want to hire a REPUBLICAN LAWYER FOR HIS REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION? CAN ANYONE BEYOND FIRST GRADE GUESS?

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BECAUSE HE WANTS TO HIRE SOMEONE (LIKE JFK WANTED TO HIRE FOR HIS AG)... SOMEONE HE COULD TRUST AND RELY ON, NOT GIVE HIM BAD ADVICE THAT WILL HURT HIS POLICY OBJECTIVES. Just like all other politicians in any office, they seek the council and advice of professionals that have similar policy goals and objectives. DUHHHHHH

Parisi BECAME the GOP CHAIR AFTER HE WAS THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND HE DID SO TO KEEP TOMMASONE AND THE GOP IN OFFICE SO THAT THEY COULD CONTINUE THE POLICY OBJECTIVES OF GOP GOVERNANCE. Being involved as a political committee figure and being counsel to the town is no conflict of interest; it is in the same interest! What do you expect Steve to do, hire someone who didn't share his ideas and vision? Give me a break, when I see Democrats putting staunch Republicans in places in their administration then I will agree. Maybe Obama will ask Pat Buchanan to be his chief of staff. Rahm Emanual could be a "conflict of interest."

When the NNTP people get in, I assume they will hire socialist, ACORN lawyers, right???


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I agree with gb in part. Having a rep attorney is clearly not the end all here. I think people question the fact that the attorney is also the rep chair.

Is quail the city's attorney?


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Gradner is the county attorney, and he is the "behind the scenes" boss. Everyone in the universe knows it. Quale is the election commissioner.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Gradner is the county attorney, and he is the "behind the scenes" boss. Everyone in the universe knows it. Quale is the election commissioner.


The ethical relativity...I LOVE IT.  Red herrings are flyin.  Republicans like Suhrada complain about the County's one party rule and the cronyism that goes on.  Then when the same thing goes on at the town level, they point to the County Democrats as the example to justify their actions when they do the same.  That's why Suhrada and the Republicans empty rhetoric  doesn't persuade the people.  People would rather vote the devil they know than the devil they don't.  And that fact may help them in the town race.

Vote the NNTP.  




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When the NNTP people get in, I assume they will hire socialist, ACORN lawyers, right???


Mertz is an attorney, maybe he would hire himself to council...himself.   hahahahahah



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Give me a break, when I see Democrats putting staunch Republicans in places in their administration then I will agree. Maybe Obama will ask Pat Buchanan to be his chief of staff. Rahm Emanual could be a "conflict of interest."


Why do you go to the extremes GB?  You give the readers false choices in this statement.  Are ALL law firms political?  You speaks as if ALL lawyers are either Democrats or Republicans, and that's what Tommasone and the GOP had to choose from.  Are there any non-partisan law firms that just offer legal council to town elected officials as to what laws or ordinances are LEGAL OR ILLEGAL?  I'm not saying the GOP hire a staunch Democrat for town attorney. How about hiring a staunch NON-PARTISAN law firm?  I would imagine there is such a thing.    


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So, it is OK for all Democrats to hire Democrat lawyers but Republican need to hire bipartisan lawyers? Where did you get that talking point, the DNC? That is what destroyed the Republican party, guys like you that want to fight a battle of ideas in governance with both hands and both feet tied behind their backs. Explain how is is unethical, immoral, wrong, perverse, criminal, unholy or off-base to use a Republican law firm? Please specifically describe what is wrong with it? You like to shoot off expressions about ethical relativity and moral sanctity, as if you authored the ten commandments yourself. Should we call you reverend?


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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GB....you are correct. The dems do it and we hate it! I believe that we or at least some people, have always held a higher standard for the reps. When we see the same behavior transferring from the dems to the reps, some will question it. And perhaps not like or agree with it.

Honestly, I believe that people have always held the reps at a higher standard than the dems and when the reps start behaving like the dems......well....well............THEN WE VOTE FOR THE NNTP! IMHO


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Sorry for the uproar over my little piece on the Raucci/DeSorbo/DiLallo/Surprise connection.  It is true tha there is/was an alliance between these individuals.  I have heard that Local Union 847 was very invovled in the Surprise hire.

Mr GB, someone told me a story that you are bitter because of some relationship a relative had with a higher up in the Democratic Party.  Perhaps you are overcome a bit with emotion to hold elective town office.  My friends tell me you are looking for revenge for something that happened in YOUR family a long time ago.  This is no way to serve the people with such a bitter temperment,  that is if you are really Joe Suhrada.  But what do I know I am new  to this town and just listen to my friends at the Senior Center (who DO NOT LIKE Mr Surprise.)
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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
So, it is OK for all Democrats to hire Democrat lawyers but Republican need to hire bipartisan lawyers? Where did you get that talking point, the DNC?


I never said it was OK.  I'm not a party lacky like you.  I can look at the reality of things without looking through the democrat and republican lens. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy to the readers.  When Republicans like Suhrada cry cronyism when talking about County Democrats, he only cry's that because they're not Republican cronies.  

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That is what destroyed the Republican party, guys like you that want to fight a battle of ideas in governance with both hands and both feet tied behind their backs. Explain how is is unethical, immoral, wrong, perverse, criminal, unholy or off-base to use a Republican law firm? Please specifically describe what is wrong with it?


What exactly do you mean by both hands tied behind your backs?  This town ran without a party chairs law firm representing the town.  Now all of a sudden, it is some how a handicap and detriment to the town if the majority party chairman and town attorney aren't one in the same.  Why doesn't the Town hire Parisi and put him on the town payroll as a town employee with a stated salary?  

I am not what ruined the Republican Party.  I am one who routinely voted Republican, and can't even remember EVER voting Democrat. What ruined the Republican Party is the fact that nobody is willing to follow schmucks like You, Parisi, or  Buchanan.  Nobody's going to follow a party that eats their own, and is apparently in full retreat.  

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You like to shoot off expressions about ethical relativity and moral sanctity, as if you authored the ten commandments yourself. Should we call you reverend?


No, no need to call my reverend.  I will continue to write what I write.  Shinning the light on all politicians and the blowhard phonies like Suhada.  They blame us the electorate for their problems,  for not following their lead.  When it was Suhrada, who did not run for reelection so he could be part of a plan to remove fellow Republican 2 term councilman Mertz from his seat.  It's blowhard Shurada who complains about one party rule in Schenectady, when he proactively sought out to reduce Republican representation by at least one.  Republicans can't even manage their own party, yet they expect us to vote for them to run the town?  Come on...Get real.  

Go ahead, keep blaming me.  Another winning strategy for the Schenectady GOP.


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