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Box A Rox
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Just sick, sick sick to my stomach.
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PP days are numbered.

Oh and Boxy. You are literally AIDS, Cancer and Hitler all rolled into one you sick f*ck.




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the courts put a temp ban on anymore videos being released!

the 'selling baby organs' pp......is in damage control.

however....these videos can be released other ways.

the supreme court is tossing around the revamping of roe vs wade.

they said that back then, few premature babies had a slim chance of survival out of the womb.

they said that today is not the case.

also.....it don't matter if the other videos come out or not.

there is clearly more than enough damaging footage already out there.


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What a strange line of thought.
Of Course A Fetus Is HUMAN!  What else would it be?  A cow? A goat? A Republican?

A human fetus is just that... A HUMAN FETUS.
  At one point it's a HUMAN ZYGOTE, but it isn't a baby.
It progresses, grows and develops into a HUMAN BLASTOCYST... but it's not a baby.
Again, it continues to grow and at 6 weeks it's a HUMAN EMBRYO... but it's still not a baby.

So... to be clear, the cells growing in the womb are definitely HUMAN.  I hope this helped
clear up this issue for you.




YOU were the one who kept arguing that it wasn't a human or fully human.  Many Pro-Abortionists argue that the fetus is not a human or fully human.
So now, you are at least admitting that you accept proven science and believe that the child in the womb is a human.  Therefore, you admit that the whole Pro-Abortion argument is a bunch of horse sh*t.
If you believe in Human Rights and Civil Rights and Constitutional Rights .. and believe that EVERY human person is entitled to his or her Human Rights and Civil Rights and Constitutional Rights, than it should be reasonable and easy for you to accept that human babies in the womb have a Right to Life and should be protected from being tortured and murdered in the womb.  They should also be protected from having their body parts sold off to the highest bidder.


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Just sick, sick sick to my stomach.


this is beyond SICK!!!
any human being that thinks this is acceptable....has the same innocent blood on their hands as the abortionists themselves.
may God have mercy on their souls!!
and if this is all legal, according to pp, why go to a judge to prevent future videos to come out?

but don't expect any major changes in this 'baby organ business'.
cause there is BIG BUCKS in the 'dismembering a baby and selling their organs'.
and we all know that our wonderful collective government is run by BIG BUSINESS!!


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The Pro-Abortion-Without-Limits crowd (Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Tonko.


and what exactly would or does Tonko know about women?



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If it is illegal to sell fetal organs, then there is no market price of the organ.  That means that the value of the organ is the shipping and handling cost of the organ.  Just like illegal drugs, cocaine has no market price, it isn't a commodity.  The only thing the drug dealer is charging is the cost that goes into shipping and handling to get it to the customer.  


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If it is illegal to sell fetal organs, then there is no market price of the organ.  That means that the value of the organ is the shipping and handling cost of the organ.  Just like illegal drugs, cocaine has no market price, it isn't a commodity.  The only thing the drug dealer is charging is the cost that goes into shipping and handling to get it to the customer.  


All markets - including illegal ones - "set a market price" -- based on supply and demand .. etc. etc.  BTW - since Colorado and Washington State legalized marijuana and a number of states legalized "medical marijuana", the price on the illegal marijuana market has dropped like a rock.  There was report last week that 2 states in Mexico have seen their marijuana industry collapse.   Not to worry, they are retooling to supply other drugs -like heroine and meth - to the U.S.
People who deal in marketing illegal goods make a pretty hefty profit.  


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PP days are numbered.

Oh and Boxy. You are literally AIDS, Cancer and Hitler all rolled into one you sick f*ck.


I guess bucky actually believes the Forced Birth Propaganda.
Figures.


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Something we all know, yet choose to ignore:


1. Lab Technician In Latest Video Admits Planned Parenthood Is Only Reimbursed For Actual Costs

2. Center for Medical Progress May Have Obtained The Footage Illegally

3. Procurement Companies Like StemExpress Act As "Middlemen," Reimbursing Abortion Providers For
Donation Costs Before Reselling To Researchers At Higher Prices

4. Latest Video Cherry-Picks From Previous Deceptively-Edited Videos

5. Critical Republican Lawmakers Voted To Legalize Fetal Tissue Donations

6. It Is Legal To Accept Reimbursement For Fetal Tissue Donation To Offset "Reasonable Expenses"

7. Experts Agree "There's No Way There's A Profit" For Planned Parenthood


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Factcheck.org:

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Several Republican presidential candidates have claimed that Planned Parenthood is
“profiting” from abortions. But the full, unedited video they cite as evidence shows a Planned
Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clinics want to cover their costs, not make money,
when donating fetal tissue from abortions for scientific research.


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Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed
in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s
a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham
and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”


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The edited video, released July 14 by an anti-abortion group called the Center for Medical
Progress, leaves the impression that Nucatola is talking about Planned Parenthood affiliates making
money from fetal tissue. But the edited video ignores other things Nucatola said that contradict that
idea.


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At one point in the unedited video (which was also released by the group), Nucatola says:
“Affiliates are not looking to make money by doing this. They’re looking to serve their patients and
just make it not impact their bottom line.”
Nucatola also says, “No one’s going to see this as a money making thing.” And at another point,
she says, “Our goal, like I said, is to give patients the option without impacting our bottom line.
The messaging is this should not be seen as a new revenue stream, because that’s not what it is.”



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All markets - including illegal ones - "set a market price" -- based on supply and demand .. etc. etc.  BTW - since Colorado and Washington State legalized marijuana and a number of states legalized "medical marijuana", the price on the illegal marijuana market has dropped like a rock.  There was report last week that 2 states in Mexico have seen their marijuana industry collapse.   Not to worry, they are retooling to supply other drugs -like heroine and meth - to the U.S.
People who deal in marketing illegal goods make a pretty hefty profit.  


I agree.  I was making the subtle point that selling fetal organs is the same as selling illegal drugs.  Cocaine isn't priced by how much cocaine is grown and processed, it's priced on cost of trafficking.  Both are making money, but they aren't making money off of the commodity, they are making money off off trafficking.


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I agree.  I was making the subtle point that selling fetal organs is the same as selling illegal drugs.  Cocaine isn't priced by how much cocaine is grown and processed, it's priced on cost of trafficking.  Both are making money, but they aren't making money off of the commodity, they are making money off off trafficking.



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Four experts in the field of human tissue procurement told us the price range discussed
in the video — $30 to $100 per patient — represents a reasonable fee. “There’s no way there’s
a profit at that price,” said Sherilyn J. Sawyer, the director of Harvard University and Brigham
and Women’s Hospital’s “biorepository.”


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