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IF it weren't for distortions and propaganda... Cicero would have nothing to say at all.

Again... For PAYING CUSTOMERS???
No.

They offer tissue that would be discarded to research facilities if it's is approved by the
mother.  
Much like people donate their eyes, their kidney, their hearts or their entire body for
research purposes.


Yes, but these people sign consent to donate their own organs.

And yes, planned parenthood is compensated for handling the fetal organs.  That is a fact.


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Oh... so your original statement:

... was a lie.  
You are attempting to require all women to submit to YOUR PERSONAL VIEW OF MORALITY.
They are free... as long as they meet Cicero's personal restrictions.


Not just women, all people have to be justified when taking a human life.  That has been a legal standard in civilized society.  It's only been since 1973 that the federal government ruled that it is no longer necessary when terminating life inside the womb.  


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women taking care of women..........isn't that just rich.
women teaching women how to kill their babies and allowing the dismembering and the selling of their baby's organs to the highest bidder.
there is no war on women.........there's a war on babies!!!
PURE EVIL TO IT'S CORE!!!


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And yes, planned parenthood is compensated for handling the fetal organs.  That is a fact.


Yes PP Was Compensated:

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Compensated (Dictionary.com)
~ to recompense for something
~ to counterbalance; offset; be equivalent to
~ adjust or construct so as to offset or counterbalance variations or produce equilibrium.


PP is reimbursed for expenses associated with processing and transporting the tissue.



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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Yes PP Was Compensated:



PP is reimbursed for expenses associated with processing and transporting the tissue.



Yes, I get it.  Planned Parenthood had to get compensated.  I do the same thing when I donate food to the food pantry, a charge them for shipping and handling to cover my expenses, but I give them the canned goods for free.


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Yes, I get it.  Planned Parenthood had to get compensated.  I do the same thing when I donate food to the food pantry, a charge them for shipping and handling to cover my expenses, but I give them the canned goods for free.


I suppose that PP could get a govt grant to cover the cost of prepping the tissue and shipping it...
That would make the entire process much easier, but it would ruin a perfectly good Hoax Video!


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A temporary restraining order has been issued preventing an anti-abortion group
from releasing any video of leaders of a California company that provides fetal tissue to
researchers. The group is the same one that previously shot viral covert video of a Planned
Parenthood leader discussing the sale of aborted fetuses for research.

The Los Angeles Superior Court order issued Tuesday prohibits the Center for Medical
Progress from releasing any video of three high-ranking StemExpress officials taken at
a restaurant in May. It appears to be the first legal action prohibiting the release of a video
from the organization.


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Opposition to abortion is not so much about
saving babies, but about control of women. And that requires
controlling their reproductive rights, sexual lives, and fertility.
In that context, opposing both abortion rights and contraception
is not an inconsistency.


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The Pro-Abortion-Without-Limits crowd (Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Tonko, et al) has to twist and distort truth to make their case.  
First - they have to brainwash people into denying science to believe that the baby in the womb is NOT human.  If they can convince people that baby in the womb is not human than they can justify mutilating the baby in the womb and sucking it out with a vacuum.
Second - they have to brainwash people into believing that the baby, which they deceived themselves and others to believing it was not human,  that they just mutilated in the womb and sucked out with a vacuum is now human -- and we can't waste that human tissue, which came from a baby that the Prophets of Death (Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Tonko, et al) strenuously argued was not a human while in the womb.
They keep telling "the big lies" -- and gradually all of our human, civil and constitutional rights will be gone.


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First - they have to brainwash people into denying science to believe that the baby in the womb is NOT human.  If they can convince people that baby in the womb is not human than they can justify mutilating the baby in the womb and sucking it out with a vacuum.
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What a strange line of thought.
Of Course A Fetus Is HUMAN!  What else would it be?  A cow? A goat? A Republican?

A human fetus is just that... A HUMAN FETUS.
  At one point it's a HUMAN ZYGOTE, but it isn't a baby.
It progresses, grows and develops into a HUMAN BLASTOCYST... but it's not a baby.
Again, it continues to grow and at 6 weeks it's a HUMAN EMBRYO... but it's still not a baby.

So... to be clear, the cells growing in the womb are definitely HUMAN.  I hope this helped
clear up this issue for you.




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What a strange line of thought.
Of Course A Fetus Is HUMAN!  What else would it be?  A cow? A goat? A Republican?

A human fetus is just that... A HUMAN FETUS.
  At one point it's a HUMAN ZYGOTE, but it isn't a baby.
It progresses, grows and develops into a HUMAN BLASTOCYST... but it's not a baby.
Again, it continues to grow and at 6 weeks it's a HUMAN EMBRYO... but it's still not a baby.

So... to be clear, the cells growing in the womb are definitely HUMAN.  I hope this helped
clear up this issue for you.




So if science can progress to the point that they can fully gestate a fetus outside a woman's womb, at what point is it recognized as a living human being?  If delivery out of a woman's womb is the stage at when a human has a right to life, when is it when the woman's womb is no longer required?


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The Pro-Abortion-Without-Limits crowd (Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Tonko, et al) has to twist and distort truth to make their case.  
First - they have to brainwash people into denying science to believe that the baby in the womb is NOT human.  If they can convince people that baby in the womb is not human than they can justify mutilating the baby in the womb and sucking it out with a vacuum.
Second - they have to brainwash people into believing that the baby, which they deceived themselves and others to believing it was not human,  that they just mutilated in the womb and sucked out with a vacuum is now human -- and we can't waste that human tissue, which came from a baby that the Prophets of Death (Hillary, Obama, Pelosi, Tonko, et al) strenuously argued was not a human while in the womb.
They keep telling "the big lies" -- and gradually all of our human, civil and constitutional rights will be gone.


The other truth they don't tell people is that the push for late term abortions have NOTHING to do with women's rights to their so called reproductive organs......but EVERYTHING about more mature baby's organ parts that they can dissect, dismember, put in a pie plate, sift thru and sell to the highest bidder.....after they crush the baby's head!!!
PURE EVIL WICKEDNESS!


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So if science can progress to the point that they can fully gestate a fetus outside a woman's womb, at what point is it recognized as a living human being?  If delivery out of a woman's womb is the stage at when a human has a right to life, when is it when the woman's womb is no longer required?


With the present ability of 'cloning', the womb is already optional.  


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