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Alva White
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So DV/Alva thinks he's being clever trolling M/C making stupid statements? It isn't funny, DV, you stink up the boards with your immaturity.
BT, I've often thought that it would be interesting if you could switch the student bodies of Niskayuna in their entireties with Schenectady's schools. The only way kids would do any better at Niskayuna would be if you only sent SOME of them over there, the ones whose parents value an education for their kids, and know what that means.
I voted no on the budget because of the addition of all the 'behavioral' positions. Leaving the kids who are disruptive or who can't learn for other reasons right in the same classrooms just plain doesn't work, no matter how many "experts" you hire.


Ah, so madam nut-job chimes in with her usual if they're critical of the "nasty pair", then it must be DV. Well let me assure you, that in my case that's not true.

Only someone with deep seated paranoia would believe that.

I was pointed to youtube by somebody else. This pretty much sums up madam nut-job.

https://youtu.be/1LWC5ZZ0uvg


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               hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for
               an angry fix,"


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DVOR, there would be no reason for another human being to become as crazed as you do when someone agrees with M/C. You are the wacko titleholder for the entire region. Nobody is impressed. You aren't clever, you are pathetic, and you stink up the boards with your immaturity.
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Ah, so madam nut-job chimes in with her usual if they're critical of the "nasty pair", then it must be DV. Well let me assure you, that in my case that's not true.

Only someone with deep seated paranoia would believe that.

I was pointed to youtube by somebody else. This pretty much sums up madam nut-job.

https://youtu.be/1LWC5ZZ0uvg

BWAHAHAHAHHHHH
XLAX - A DVOR BEHIND EVERY BUSH


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Oh look everybody! Look how I'm messing with Madam X, with my clever sock puppets! - DVOR
Again, no one is impressed, I don't care about you. You are a blight on the boards, that's all.
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Oh look everybody! Look how I'm messing with Madam X, with my clever sock puppets! - DVOR
Again, no one is impressed, I don't care about you. You are a blight on the boards, that's all.


This is hilarious. You don't realize how foolish you sound. There are a number of people who post here who know the truth, and I can once again assure you that we're laughing our collective asses off at you. What a joke you are.


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Ya think?

On the other hand, having read this thread (pretty much like having a root canal without anesthesia) from the start, I'm pretty much convinced that DV has been playing those two like a fiddle. He's sitting back laughing like hell seeing how many times the two dimwits will reply with their bold, colored and large text. And with each reply he's laughing at how angry they get, can almost see the spittle on their monitors. He's laughing at how dim witted those two are. Pretty funny



All DV needs to do is to start speaking truths.   DV claimed, for example, that metroplex is a solid investment and has provided tremendous dividends.

We would just like DV to tell us what the alleged dividends are.     I post that the city is not improving, and I state that metroplex is not an investment, that it has NOT provided any dividends.  Then I support my claim by not only stating that the tax base has fallen, but actually proving it every year by posting the current year and the previous year summary pages of the assessment roll.

what does DV have to offer.

I can state that property values are falling and can provide the evidence, i.e., the sale prices and the city's claim of market value

DV claims roads outside the city are worse, but where is the proof, why does he refuse to post photos of these alleged poor roads and provide proof of their location?  

Dv claimed the streets in the city are well plowed, but not one piece of evidence.  I however actually posted photos of snowbanks way out into the middle of the street, and then there was that video someone did of a police car that couldn't get down a poorly plowed street.  

DV is so embarrassed about my telling the truth and providing the evidence, he won't even engage in discussion about these things.  I mean gee, he could come on an reference one house that sells for $200,000 that is assessed for $100,000 and he could say "see, values are going up."   But he can't even do that.  Naturally, if he referenced ONE house that increased in value, I'd provide tons of houses that have fallen in value.

DV is one BIG (in more ways than one) COWARDLY CUCKOO CHICKEN who will NOT EVER discuss when evidence contradicting him is put in front of him.  Worse is that he is so embarrassed at being proven a liar, that DV will NEVER come on and post that he is wrong, that he sees the evidence, and that it proves that metroplex is not a solid investment.

Notice how he just keeps yapping about the school tax rate going up at a lower rate in Schenectady, he posts that over and over, but he will not remotely address the FACT that the tax RATE is entirely and totally a different thing than the tax BILL.  But then, DV, will not ever come on here and post that he really is not a taxpayer nor will he acknowledge that because of that fact, that he cannot speak with intelligence on the subject.


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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All DV needs to do is to start speaking truths.   DV claimed, for example, that metroplex is a solid investment and has provided tremendous dividends.

We would just like DV to tell us what the alleged dividends are.     I post that the city is not improving, and I state that metroplex is not an investment, that it has NOT provided any dividends.  Then I support my claim by not only stating that the tax base has fallen, but actually proving it every year by posting the current year and the previous year summary pages of the assessment roll.

what does DV have to offer.

I can state that property values are falling and can provide the evidence, i.e., the sale prices and the city's claim of market value

DV claims roads outside the city are worse, but where is the proof, why does he refuse to post photos of these alleged poor roads and provide proof of their location?  

Dv claimed the streets in the city are well plowed, but not one piece of evidence.  I however actually posted photos of snowbanks way out into the middle of the street, and then there was that video someone did of a police car that couldn't get down a poorly plowed street.  

DV is so embarrassed about my telling the truth and providing the evidence, he won't even engage in discussion about these things.  I mean gee, he could come on an reference one house that sells for $200,000 that is assessed for $100,000 and he could say "see, values are going up."   But he can't even do that.  Naturally, if he referenced ONE house that increased in value, I'd provide tons of houses that have fallen in value.

DV is one BIG (in more ways than one) COWARDLY CUCKOO CHICKEN who will NOT EVER discuss when evidence contradicting him is put in front of him.  Worse is that he is so embarrassed at being proven a liar, that DV will NEVER come on and post that he is wrong, that he sees the evidence, and that it proves that metroplex is not a solid investment.

Notice how he just keeps yapping about the school tax rate going up at a lower rate in Schenectady, he posts that over and over, but he will not remotely address the FACT that the tax RATE is entirely and totally a different thing than the tax BILL.  But then, DV, will not ever come on here and post that he really is not a taxpayer nor will he acknowledge that because of that fact, that he cannot speak with intelligence on the subject.


Yada, yada, yada. You two don't get it do you? He's playing you for a couple of saps. And you're so dense you don't get it. He laughs like hell when you type these wordy responses and then reposts his original thoughts just to see how much more you'll type. Then when he keeps it up you to idiots get so upset that you get personal. LOL It's like a freakin' morality play fer chrissakes. But hey whatever floats your boat. Continue to post your inane responses to his taunting. I'm gathering all this into book form. Maybe it'll be released some day as a movie somewhere.  


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dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for
               an angry fix,"


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Either

YOU are DV and are very embarrassed to be proven wrong

OR

DV is a very mentally depressed person that he gets jollies, having his orgasms by telling lies and fairy tales.  We've been waiting for his book to be published "Fairy Tales of Schenectady" by   On the inside of the cover will be the publisher's explanation that the author is a 50+ year old who is not yet become an normal independent adult, that he has not yet left the nest, that he doesn't even live in the city,  has no knowledge about the topics he writes in the book and that writing fairy tales is what causes him to "satisfy himself."




Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Either

YOU are DV and are very embarrassed to be proven wrong

OR

DV is a very mentally depressed person that he gets jollies, having his orgasms by telling lies and fairy tales.  We've been waiting for his book to be published "Fairy Tales of Schenectady".   On the inside of the cover will be the publisher's explanation that the author is a 50+ year old who is not yet become an normal independent adult, that he has not yet left the nest, that he doesn't even live in the city,  has no knowledge about the topics he writes in the book and that writing fairy tales is what causes him to "satisfy himself."
HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED IN THE FRIGGIN' MIRROR????





JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from mikechristine1
Either

YOU are DV and are very embarrassed to be proven wrong

OR

DV is a very mentally depressed person that he gets jollies, having his orgasms by telling lies and fairy tales.  We've been waiting for his book to be published "Fairy Tales of Schenectady" by Ron S....    On the inside of the cover will be the publisher's explanation that the author is a 50+ year old who is not yet become an normal independent adult, that he has not yet left the nest, that he doesn't even live in the city,  has no knowledge about the topics he writes in the book and that writing fairy tales is what causes him to "satisfy himself."




Bwahahahahaha. You too huh Chris? Hey keep it up this is getting funnier by the minute. The title of the book/movie is going to be "Mike & Chris - The Faux Concerned Citizens". Just thought I'd throw that out there as a tease.  


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These are all DV's sock puppets, M/C. I would just ignore him/them. I think enough people are aware of the truth of what you are stating, by now, so that a troll isn't going to be able to deceive anyone any longer. "Alva White" doesn't realize than no normal man would be amused by DVOR's crazy behavior, just sickened by it. There is nothing funny about it.
Again, it is too bad that he is allowed to stink up the boards with his vulgarity and sock puppets. That doesn't undo the good you are doing by getting the truth out to more people. I wish the poor woman who just got clobbered by the city, who has been seen putting her remaining possessions out at the curb, had been as aware as these people grieving their taxes are. It would have changed her life.
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These are all DV's sock puppets, M/C. I would just ignore him/them. I think enough people are aware of the truth of what you are stating, by now, so that a troll isn't going to be able to deceive anyone any longer. "Alva White" doesn't realize than no normal man would be amused by DVOR's crazy behavior, just sickened by it. There is nothing funny about it.
Again, it is too bad that he is allowed to stink up the boards with his vulgarity and sock puppets. That doesn't undo the good you are doing by getting the truth out to more people. I wish the poor woman who just got clobbered by the city, who has been seen putting her remaining possessions out at the curb, had been as aware as these people grieving their taxes are. It would have changed her life.


I repeat: This is hilarious. You don't realize how foolish you sound. There are a number of people who post here who know the truth, and I can once again assure you that we're laughing our collective asses off at you. What a joke you are.



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Of course, there is always the possibility that he believes that he IS all these different people. Even so, he shouldn't be allowed to stink up the boards with his vulgarities and sock puppets.
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Of course, there is always the possibility that he believes that he IS all these different people. Even so, he shouldn't be allowed to stink up the boards with his vulgarities and sock puppets.


And yet again I respond with: This is hilarious. You don't realize how foolish you sound. There are a number of people who post here who know the truth, and I can once again assure you that we're laughing our collective asses off at you. What a joke you are.


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It is interesting that the 2 people who stink up the board with outright lying, nasty personal attacks accuse me of being a "blight on the board."  I am NOT going to waste my time and energy responding to those attacks launched at me.  I know the truth -- they don't -- and that is that.

Now -- returning to the actual topic of the thread.  The Daily Gazette ran the news story with the study put out by an independent group.  That group is the one that makes the claim and shows the data to prove it -- that the over a 30 year period the City of Schenectady School District had the lowest average tax rate increase.  It isn't my opinion -- it is a fact published in a study and reported on by the Daily Gazette.  Therefore, there is absolutely no need for anyone to make this an excuse to launch personal attacks.

The whole purpose of posting the news item was to a) attempt to show a part of the truth that critics of Schenectady don't want to believe because it challenges their view that everything is negative in Schenectady, and b) illicit some intelligent debate on the taxes and the tax cap.  
One of the reasons why the Gazette ran this news item was because of the debate regarding whether or not to renew the 2% (annual increase) property tax cap in New York State.

Now, the study only shows the average annual increase in tax rates over a 30 year period.  It does not indicate how high tax rates were at the beginning of the study period -- it just shows the average annual increase over the period.  So, the most that we can say is that the Schenectady City School District was rather cautious in raising tax rates over that 30 year period -- compared to other school districts -- including large suburban school districts.  Some of those large suburban districts had average increases of 6,7 and even 8% .. much higher than the rate of inflation ... and - this is what I find interesting -- at a time that the value of their tax bases were expanding due to residential and commercial construction.  This implies that other school districts in the area .. and certainly a number of the suburban school districts were quite profligate in their spending and tax increases.   They may had lower rates at the start of the 30 year period and have lower rates now -- but was it really necessary to raise spending and taxes at 2 to 3 times the rate of inflation every year?

I will go one step further and partially answer that question in relation to the school districts in Schenectady County.  The county is too small to justify having 6 public school districts.  Wasting money on buying new land for (in some cases) and building new buildings and additions in some districts -- while other neighboring districts had a surplus of classroom space - was not wise and prudent.  You could have 1 district for administration purposes and still provide neighborhood elementary schools but better utilize middle and high school space if we were to consolidate the 6 district into 1.


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