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Bumbler's Bigotry Is Showing^


Bigotry?  I thought it was a positive endorsement?  Isn't it a badge of honor to be the "first"?  The Dems could be the party of the first Catholic, first Black, and first Jewish President.

I think you are bigoted for interpreting bumble's post as bigoted.


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Bigotry?  I thought it was a positive endorsement?  Isn't it a badge of honor to be the "first"?  The Dems could be the party of the first Catholic, first Black, and first Jewish President.

I think you are bigoted for interpreting bumble's post as bigoted.


THANK YOU! ^5


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Totally the best one by far....






"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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BE SURE TO GET OUT AND VOTE!

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Rigged race means Hillary takes more delegates in Bernie’s Wyoming win

Bernie Sanders won again Saturday — and still lost.

The Vermont senator took ­Wyoming by an impressive 12 percentage-point margin in statewide caucuses, beating Clinton 56-44 percent.

But under the Democratic party’s oddball delegate system, Sanders’ winning streak — he has won seven out of the past eight contests — counts for little.

In fact, despite his win, he splits the Wyoming’s 14 pledged delegates 7 to 7 under the caucus calculus.

Clinton, meanwhile, also gets the state’s four superdelegates — who already pledged their allegiance to her in January. So despite “losing,” she triumphs 11-7 in the delegate tally.


Of the 500 superdelegates who have announced whom they’re supporting, 469 say they’re for Clinton.

That makes Sanders’ win in the Cowboy State and in caucuses and primaries across the country little more than a morale boost — and maybe a cruel joke to his ­ardent young supporters.



http://nypost.com/2016/04/09/bernie-sanders-wins-democratic-caucuses-in-wyoming/


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C'mon professor of democracy box-a-rox.  Explain to everybody the importance of voting in the Primaries and Caucus'.  Use the Wyoming results as your example of how voting affects the selection of Presidential candidates.  Blame those that didn't vote in the Wyoming Caucus for how the delegates were distributed.


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C'mon professor of democracy box-a-rox.  Explain to everybody the importance of voting in the Primaries and Caucus'.  Use the Wyoming results as your example of how voting affects the selection of Presidential candidates.  Blame those that didn't vote in the Wyoming Caucus for how the delegates were distributed.

Cicero was never one to play by the rules.  HE knows the rules, but never wants them to apply to him,
or his opinion.
If you belong to the American legion, the Kiwanis, the Lions club, the NRA, the Rotary, your local PTA, etc
or an American political party, you follow Roberts Rules Of Order.
It's pretty much the same rules for everyone, even for you.

If you don't like the present rules governing delegates, you should join that particular party or group
and at the proper time, submit your new rules for governing convention delegates.
If you were active in your state Democrat or Republican party you might even...

Oh wait.  You don't believe in joining anything except what benefits you directly.
You are a "ME", not a "WE".
So.... you just whine about the process but take no action to correct that process.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cicero was never one to play by the rules.  HE knows the rules, but never wants them to apply to him,
or his opinion.
If you belong to the American legion, the Kiwanis, the Lions club, the NRA, the Rotary, your local PTA, etc
or an American political party, you follow Roberts Rules Of Order.
It's pretty much the same rules for everyone, even for you.

If you don't like the present rules governing delegates, you should join that particular party or group
and at the proper time, submit your new rules for governing convention delegates.
If you were active in your state Democrat or Republican party you might even...

Oh wait.  You don't believe in joining anything except what benefits you directly.
You are a "ME", not a "WE".
So.... you just whine about the process but take no action to correct that process.


OMG!!  You are a true believer!  You equivocated Kiwanis to the Democrat Party!  Hey, how about Kiwanis pass a law that will force the taxpayer to pay for their committee selection meetings to select their officers? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

You know Box, you are right.  The more I think about your logic, the more I realize.  The problem in Germany in 1939 wasn't the Nazi Party, it was that there wasn't enough Germans that were Nazi Party members to change the party rules from within.


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OMG!!  You are a true believer!  You equivocated Kiwanis to the Democrat Party!  Hey, how about Kiwanis pass a law that will force the taxpayer to pay for their committee selection meetings to select their officers? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

They all play by Roberts Rules of Order Cissy, which was your complaint (whine).

(I guess you realize that now that you are trying to change the subject)



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They all play by Roberts Rules of Order Cissy, which was your complaint (whine).

(I guess you realize that now that you are trying to change the subject)



Show me where "super delegates" is part of Roberts Rules of Order.  Is that a new revision?


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Show me where "super delegates" is part of Roberts Rules of Order.  Is that a new revision?

The RULES of the Dems or the Reps follow Roberts Rules of Order, just like most groups.
The rules that govern selection of delegates is voted on as the Convention begins.  
If you wanted to change those rules, then submit a rule when the party meets this summer.
The Reps or Dems could keep the 2012 rules or change them.  But for some reason, you feel
that they are somehow breaking their own rules.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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The RULES of the Dems or the Reps follow Roberts Rules of Order, just like most groups.
The rules that govern selection of delegates is voted on as the Convention begins.  
If you wanted to change those rules, then submit a rule when the party meets this summer.
The Reps or Dems could keep the 2012 rules or change them.  But for some reason, you feel
that they are somehow breaking their own rules.



No...I never said the parties are breaking their own rules.  I asked about where the super delegates were in the Roberts Rules was in jest.  I am aware that the party's undemocratic rules are specifically written to subvert the democratic outcome of their primaries and caucus'.  

Who I really feel sorry for is the poor sap that actually feels that voting for Bernie Sanders in the primary will affect the nominating process.  They haven't realized yet that "Roberts Rules" were designed to keep control of the party in the hands of the rich and powerful few and protect them from a populist movement within the party.  People think voting in a party primary is part of the "democratic process".  By your own admission, it isn't.  The votes are not LEGALLY binding, they are meaningless.  It's nothing more than a show - it's entertainment.

The best outcome for this election is if Trump and Sanders are NOT the nominees.    


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