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Quoted from 55tbird
Being in the IT field for over 30 years, I kind of chuckle about this whole email server malarkey.

For those expecting a smoking gun when this server and flash drives are examined, you're going to be disappointed...
The Clinton IT team has had months to clean up any incriminating emails, if they existed, and to cover their tracks so that no forensic information is left.
They can alter the date and time on the server at will, create a new email database that looks legit, pretty much anything they want.
I fully expect the FBI to find a few "on the fence" emails so the cleaning won't be so obvious...but nothing that will sink her campaign

If they do find a smoking gun, her IT team will go down in History as one of most inept, and clueless teams ever assembled.


First off..... LOL if you think these people are smart enough to cover their tracks enough not to get caught.

Second..... General David Petraeus, who was the director of the CIA mind you, was convicted for way, WAY less than what's already been found out on Hillary's emails.






"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
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Bernie Sanders should be rooting like crazy for Joe Biden to run for president
By Chris Cillizza August 13 at 11:48 AM

Vice President Biden chats with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo as they visit State University of New York Poly Canal Ponds. (Shawn Dowd/Democrat & Chronicle via AP)

Here's the latest on Vice President Biden's consideration of a 2016 presidential bid, courtesy of the Wall Street Journal:

    From his vacation spot on Kiawah Island, Mr. Biden is giving the strongest signal yet that he is actively considering making a third run at the presidency. He is asking political allies for advice and gauging the strength of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign as he weighs his options, people familiar with the matter said. Mr. Biden is expected to announce his decision next month.

The focus of Biden's will he/won't he dance is, naturally, all about Hillary Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner. And our temptation is to ask: "How would a Biden bid affect her?" "Is there enough room in the establishment space for both of them?"

Those are fine questions. But, they miss the most important point, which is: A Biden candidacy -- assuming the vice president ran a credible effort with some decent percentage of support in early states -- would be the best possible thing for Sen. Bernie Sanders's (I-Vt.) chances of actually winning the nomination.

Consider: Biden and Clinton occupy lots and lots of the same space within the Democratic Party. Establishment figures. Decades spent in Washington. Pragmatic rather than ideological. (Those similarities are why I have written that I am skeptical about Biden's chances of seriously challenging Clinton for the nomination.)

Sanders is unlike both of them. He is totally anti-establishment — despite the fact that he sits in the U.S. Senate — and is widely perceived as someone driven primarily by ideology and personal belief rather than electability and strategic calculation.

Sanders's problem in this race — as identified smartly by Joe Trippi, the man behind Howard Dean's 2004 campaign — is that the establishment lane isn't divided up nearly enough for the senator from Vermont to have a chance by running in the outsider lane. "No one is splitting the party establishment with Hillary," Trippi explained to me Wednesday. "She has it all to herself. When [Dean was] at 30 percent, we had the lead. Sanders gets to 30 percent, and he is still 25 points behind."

Trippi's absolutely right. Witness the new CNN/ORC poll out of Iowa released Wednesday night. Sanders is at 31 percent, but that still puts him 19 points behind Clinton. That same poll put Biden at 12 percent.

Now, consider what might happen if Biden gets into the race. (Emphasis here on "might" since the past results on Biden as a presidential candidate are, um, pretty not-good.)  Let's say Biden moves up to 20 percent support. Virtually all of that comes from Clinton's hide. Now, Clinton is at 42 to Sanders 31 to Biden's 20. Suddenly it looks like Sanders might actually have a chance to win, rather than just complicate Clinton's path to victory.

It's not rocket science. The more credible a candidate Biden is, the lower the win number is for Sanders. Heck, Sanders should want Martin O'Malley, the former Maryland governor running close to 0 percent in most polling at the moment, to get more relevant too. Sanders's message isn't likely to win a majority of Democratic voters in any state -- or nationally. But could he win one in every three Democrats? Absolutely -- since he already basically is.

The more crowded the establishment lane is, the better it is for Sanders. No one in the field -- or anyone who is thinking of running -- can compete with him in the outsider lane. That lane isn't big enough to allow him to beat the candidate of the establishment lane one on one. But if Biden or O'Malley (or anyone else) can give Clinton some competition in that space, Sanders is the one who's positioned to benefit.
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If Biden jumps in, Bernie becomes the frontrunner.

Now,who is in the Republican establishment lane and the outsider lane?
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Are Dems scrambling????? I cannot believe this:
http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/08/13/22694680/al-gore-thinking-about-running-for-president


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JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Quoted from joebxr
Are Dems scrambling????? I cannot believe this:
http://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/08/13/22694680/al-gore-thinking-about-running-for-president


Just more right wing wishful thinking.  
Gore is not running. The Right starts these rumors hoping that there will be a Democrat...
any Democrat that they can beat!


http://www.politico.com/story/.....sors-say-121351.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Just more right wing wishful thinking.  
Gore is not running. The Right starts these rumors hoping that there will be a Democrat...
any Democrat that they can beat!


http://www.politico.com/story/.....sors-say-121351.html


I hope it's Clinton vs Bush.  Get about a 30% - 40% turnout.


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I hope it's Clinton vs Bush.  Get about a 30% - 40% turnout.


10% turnout
90% turnout
50% turnout
DOESN'T MATTER....someone will be elected, regardless of who does or does not
vote, and we all will have to live with it. As for all who do not vote, that allows YOU and them to
just sit back and b**ch....blissful Sissy-topia!


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Quoted from CICERO


I hope it's Clinton vs Bush.  Get about a 30% - 40% turnout.

And the best part... none of that 30-40% will be Cicero and Bumbler!  



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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10% turnout
90% turnout
50% turnout
DOESN'T MATTER....someone will be elected


Your greatest post to date...The two major political parties will rule, even if only 10% of the people vote for the 2 corrupt rulers presented to you.  Awesome insight!!!


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Your greatest post to date...The two major political parties will rule, even if only 10% of the people vote for the 2 corrupt rulers presented to you.  Awesome insight!!!


And not your stupidest post, but ranks right up there with the stupidest ones!
Awesome ignorance...you don't even realize what you are saying!!!!
PS - Where did I say I would vote for either of the 2????  Luv how you always
insert YOUR words into other people's posts.


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And not your stupidest post, but ranks right up there with the stupidest ones!
Awesome ignorance...you don't even realize what you are saying!!!!
PS - Where did I say I would vote for either of the 2????  Luv how you always
insert YOUR words into other people's posts.


34 out of 44 presidents have been a dem or rep, the last time a president from a party other than rep or dem was in 1853.  I hope your vote for somebody other than a dem or rep can change the 163 year trend.


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34 out of 44 presidents have been a dem or rep, the last time a president from a party other than rep or dem was in 1853.  I hope your vote for somebody other than a dem or rep can change the 163 year trend.

BWAHAHAHAH...you kill me!!


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Up to 305 now.....




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
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It just keeps getting deeper and deeper in $hit:
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More than 300 of former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s emails — or 5.1 percent of those processed so far — have been flagged for potential secret information, the State Department reported to a federal court Monday as the political furor continued to grow for the Democratic presidential candidate and her aides.

A top senator has demanded that Mrs. Clinton’s attorney detail the steps he used to protect classified information in her emails, which he kept on a flash drive at his office. ABC News reported this weekend that the Colorado company that helped run her server said there may be a full backup server, which might have many of the messages she said she deleted.

In the new court filing, the State Department said it is getting back on schedule for publicly releasing the Clinton emails after falling more than 1,000 pages behind in July, when the need to screen messages for secret information overwhelmed the department.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/17/new-hillary-clinton-email-count-305-documents-pote/


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