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I don't care if dv answers or not. dv is not my total source of information.

Does ANYONE else know?

my personal thoughts are.....no one will get laid off and more folks will be hired.
and since they are all union jobs....payroll and benefits will rise substantially....hence no savings!  imho
+1.   It would be interesting to see the specific budget lines earmarked for this Dispatch Ctrs. staffing level now and for the future.   And it's related staffing costs-payroll/benefits/OT.

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there will always be more hires.....

for 'safety' of course....finding the terrorists through 'see something say something 911'.......Tom Broakov says so


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"DEMOCRATS WORKING TOGETHER TO SCREW CITY TAXPAYERS" should be their motto going forward!
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"DEMOCRATS WORKING TOGETHER TO SCREW CITY TAXPAYERS" should be their motto going forward!


don't kid yourself firefox....the reps would be either doing the SAME thing.....OR.....nothing at all!


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the central dispatch is federal plan.....since 9/11........


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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How will payrolls/benefits/retirements be reduced? How many employees are getting laid off due to this dispatch consolidation?


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Dispatch center savings fall short for Schenectady
City projections well below county’s $246K estimate
Friday, October 10, 2014
By Kathleen Moore (Contact)
Gazette Reporter  


SCHENECTADY — The county dispatch system is saving the city less than predicted, confusing and disappointing City Council members.

The system was billed for years as a cost-savings consolidation, but at best Schenectady will save $177,000 next year. In April, the county said the city would save at least $246,000, although city officials had expected more.

The new figure is based on internal projections for 2015 fringe benefits — retirement and health insurance costs — the city might have paid if it still employed its 24 dispatchers. Finance Commissioner Deborah DeGenova said the city would have paid $639,000 in such costs, although she also said she had to determine that figure by modeling it herself, since the city’s retirement and health insurance estimates were based on data that did not include those employees.

The city will keep five workers to maintain records, at a cost of $163,000, and continue $91,000 in contracts for software used to let police see what information dispatch is collecting as they type it into their computers, while officers are speeding to the scene.

DeGenova assured her at a recent budget session there was some savings, although she could not quantify it during the budget sessions.

“It’s pretty much in the benefits lines,” she said

The city had 24 dispatchers, but only 20 took city insurance, DeGenova said. She said Friday she had to estimate the cost of fringe benefits for the dispatchers next year.



from the original article, specific to the City!



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I don't care if dv answers or not. dv is not my total source of information.

Does ANYONE else know?

my personal thoughts are.....no one will get laid off and more folks will be hired.
and since they are all union jobs....payroll and benefits will rise substantially....hence no savings!  imho


I did give my answer to the problem:  The only way to reduce government spending is to reduce the bloated - due to redundancy - public employee payrolls.  That reduces current costs for wages and benefits as well as future costs for retirement.


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I did give my answer to the problem:  The only way to reduce government spending is to reduce the bloated - due to redundancy - public employee payrolls.  That reduces current costs for wages and benefits as well as future costs for retirement.



Yep, the INCREASE


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I did give my answer to the problem:  The only way to reduce government spending is to reduce the bloated - due to redundancy - public employee payrolls.  That reduces current costs for wages and benefits as well as future costs for retirement.



Yep, the PROVEN INCREASE in cost due to the CONSOLIDATION of the dispatch really proves you wrong.

Have you bothered to read the information about the city school district and the super is looking at neighborhood schools, but the story (Sunday I think) mentioned the racial imbalance that might result, but what was pointed out what the COST OF BUSING and that is WITHIN THE CITY ALONE!

But YOU want to DRASTICALLY INCREASE the taxes (since you are NOT  taxpayer) by having to buy more buses, put more mileage on the buses driving all over the place from one end of the county to another, to add to the taxpayers bills the cost of more gasoline, increased liability insurance costs, increase costs of maintenance, kids riding on buses for perhaps two hours in the morning and two hours at the end of the day.   Of course, you are not a parent nor a taxpayer so you have no understanding


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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I did give my answer to the problem:  The only way to reduce government spending is to reduce the bloated - due to redundancy - public employee payrolls.  That reduces current costs for wages and benefits as well as future costs for retirement.


after all these years you still believe the government can deliver that crap line?

ANYONE can sit back and say 'the projected savings is blah blah blah because it COULD have been blah blah blah'

that's secret math the taxpayer isn't privy to because THEY DON'T KNOW and it's in the future....the taxes WON'T go down...

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TAX REDUCTION....just some politician saying 'it could have been worse'...and they say that how?
they sacrificed their first born to the underworld...well, probably but it really doesn't work.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TAX REDUCTION....just some politician saying 'it could have been worse'...and they say that how?
they sacrificed their first born to the underworld...well, probably but it really doesn't work.


It could have always been worse.  If you didn't vote for me, the other guy would have stolen more of your money that I am stealing.


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this will become a MONEY PIT!!!

ANYTHING that has to do with COPS costs the taxpayers a bundle!!

Just give it some time.....the friends and family club need patronage jobs too ya know!!!

it will run in the RED eventually and will have to raise taxes to keep it afloat!!!


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this will become a MONEY PIT!!!

ANYTHING that has to do with COPS costs the taxpayers a bundle!!

Just give it some time.....the friends and family club need patronage jobs too ya know!!!

it will run in the RED eventually and will have to raise taxes to keep it afloat!!!


      i would like to welcome rotterdam residents and the rest of the county sheep to business "schenectady city style"
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