Quoted from Sombody

In my world ? Well your philosphy will work in heaven. It does not hold up in reality on earth .. In schenectady, at your house no body needs a license.

There is not a lot of liability.

In my world I know there are fakers.

What are your requirments for the elevator contrat in a hundred story building ?

. Sure You and cicero dont need an architect to remodel your houses. You will know if work in being done properly. Slim shance of one of you sharp guys hireing a crook.-

A casino is able  stop almost all of the hanky panky sneaky  stuff with money  that yu complain about  that goes on in schenectady .

It's not about keeping things on the up and up.

It's about treating all people as equals.

Not allowing only government controlled mafia style legal corporations to break the law.

You obviously have absolutely no respect for the rights of the people to be treated as equals to all or for the Constitution.

Quoted from joebxr

Quoted from Libertarian4life

It's not about keeping things on the up and up.

It's about treating all people as equals.

Not allowing only government controlled mafia style legal corporations to break the law.

You obviously have absolutely no respect for the rights of the people to be treated as equals to all or for the Constitution.

People have this belief that some state agency can protect you from thieves, crooks, con men, swindlers, and snake oil salesmen.  You have no responsibility for your decisions because the state takes all the responsibility with licenses, regulation, permits, and what ever other document with the NYS seal on it.  

Whether I'm walking into a back room bookmaker or a state regulated casino, I know I made a poor decision to gamble.  There is no amount of state certifications that would convince me otherwise.  With the back room local bookmaker, if he screws me out of money, I can take by business to another bookmaker.  There is actual competition that keeps a bookmaker honest.  And the backroom bookmaker isn't using taxpayer money to pay out the winners.

Quoted from CICERO

I really don't see the difference between residential and commercial development.  If I was a developer and was building high rises that needed elevators, I don't know why I would depend on a license for choosing a contractor instead of references and reputation.  It is still in my best interest to hire the best contractor at the best price to install an elevator.  I don't understand why a person would hire a contractor that does shoddy work, if the building is going to be open to the public.  If you do that, then if there is a problem with the elevator, it is you as the developer and the contractor that gets the bad reputation and risks going out of business.

Prob #1 - You don't see a difference between RES and COMMERCIAL????? Hope you don't have responsibility for building anything!
Prob #2 - What makes you an expert on elevators that you are qualified to hire a contractor to install one?  What questions would
you ask? What's min code they need to meet? How is elevator to operate and what is maintenance requirement? Oh Yah, references...
what are you going to do search Angies list? How do you come up with this stupidity? If you are the developer (as you say), then
you are exposed to the liabilities and culpable in any legal action or related accidents for failure to hire a competent installer.

Quoted from joebxr

Prob #1 - You don't see a difference between RES and COMMERCIAL????? Hope you don't have responsibility for building anything!
Prob #2 - What makes you an expert on elevators that you are qualified to hire a contractor to install one?  What questions would
you ask? What's min code they need to meet? How is elevator to operate and what is maintenance requirement? Oh Yah, references...
what are you going to do search Angies list? How do you come up with this stupidity? If you are the developer (as you say), then
you are exposed to the liabilities and culpable in any legal action or related accidents for failure to hire a competent installer.

How is any of this relative to State mafia style licenses for corporations which allows them to break the laws that every non-corporation must obey?

This is constitutional dismantling.

Quoted from joebxr

Prob #1 - You don't see a difference between RES and COMMERCIAL????? Hope you don't have responsibility for building anything!

Prob #2 - What makes you an expert on elevators that you are qualified to hire a contractor to install one?  What questions would
you ask? What's min code they need to meet? How is elevator to operate and what is maintenance requirement? Oh Yah, references...
what are you going to do search Angies list? How do you come up with this stupidity? If you are the developer (as you say), then
you are exposed to the liabilities and culpable in any legal action or related accidents for failure to hire a competent installer.

Hey dumb fu(k...As a developer or any other f**king thing you do, you are culpable for the decision you make.  What are you saying, a license makes that go away?  No, the workmanship is all that matters.  Developers don't have angies list, they have industry specific organizations.  A company building high-rises isn't bidding on jobs for Amedore Homes.

What world do you live in?  Do you really lack the skill to find a competent contractor without the security of a license?  Do you actually check the wall at the barber shop to make sure your barber has their state issued license to cut hair? lol!

Quoted from Libertarian4life

How is any of this relative to State mafia style licenses for corporations which allows them to break the laws that every non-corporation must obey?

This is constitutional dismantling.

Things begin with the CONSTRUCTION of the building
It begins with an Architect  who has a license
a GC who has a license

a license in a form of  policeing.
A gaming license  makes the casino PAY TAX EVERY SIJGLE MONTH

Quoted from CICERO

  How do you trust the most corrupt government in the US with regulating a Casino?  

Thankfully, we don't have to entrust the Obama-Reid-Pelosi administration with regulating a casino.

Quoted from Sombody

Things begin with the CONSTRUCTION of the building
It begins with an Architect  who has a license
a GC who has a license

a license in a form of  policeing.
A gaming license  makes the casino PAY TAX EVERY SIJGLE MONTH

Legalizing gambling for everyone would bring in taxes every month, without using communism, or trampling the constitution.

You support government control of people's rights.

And special treatment for corporations.

Why do you hate equality?

You are completely dependent on the government to t5ake care of everything.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

Thankfully, we don't have to entrust the Obama-Reid-Pelosi administration with regulating a casino.

True, just Cuomo's mafia.

Quoted from Sombody

Things begin with the CONSTRUCTION of the building
It begins with an Architect  who has a license
a GC who has a license

a license in a form of  policeing.
A gaming license  makes the casino PAY TAX EVERY SIJGLE MONTH

Licensing is permitting. It permits you to work in a specialized field.  Policing would be apprehending a person committing a crime.  Hanging a ceiling fan without a licence isn't a crime. What am I saying...it's a crime in the US, the land of the free.

Quoted from CICERO

That's too bad. You choose to add to your costs for no reason IMO.  I'll take a retired contractor that doesn't have a licence anymore, with 40 years of proven success - licence or no licence. - don't matter.  I'll take experience over some bullshit licence any day.  As far as insurance...depends on the price of the job.

I had hired someone, based on references, to remove an in-ground pool. They weren't licsenced, but I figured what could really go wrong. Well their backho jumped out of gear and went right through my garage. They threw up some would to cover the paint, but the whole garage shifted and now the door doesn't close all the way. They got scared, I guess, cause I never saw them again. They were suppose to take out the pump, level the yard, seed. They just dumped some dirt into a hole, took off, and disconnected their phone.


Licensure wouldn't have kept the backhoe from slipping out of gear, but it would have helped protect both me and the contractor from the mess that resulted.

Quoted from CICERO

Hey dumb fu(k...As a developer or any other f**king thing you do, you are culpable for the decision you make.  What are you saying, a license makes that go away?  No, the workmanship is all that matters.  Developers don't have angies list, they have industry specific organizations.  A company building high-rises isn't bidding on jobs for Amedore Homes.

What world do you live in?  Do you really lack the skill to find a competent contractor without the security of a license?  Do you actually check the wall at the barber shop to make sure your barber has their state issued license to cut hair? lol!

Well dumb fu(k, you proved my f**king point with your inability to understand "value" and differences!

Quoted from Parent

Licensure wouldn't have kept the backhoe from slipping out of gear, but it would have helped protect both me and the contractor from the mess that resulted.

A written contract between you and the contractor outlining the scope of the work and who is responsible for damages could have helped too.

Quoted from CICERO

A written contract between you and the contractor outlining the scope of the work and who is responsible for damages could have helped too.

A licensed/insured/bonded contractor would have left no issue or doubt who is responsible and who pays!
Removes much of the stress a homeowner needs to go through if not covered.