Quoted from CICERO

You can't deal with direct questions because you refuse to take a position.  That is your debate strategy, you respond with meaningless responses like people don't "get it".  When somebody starts dismantling what "not getting it" means by asking pointed questions, you run to your ole faithful straw man response.  Yup, cissy games, asking questions to discover what "getting it" actually means.  

But I know you will never "get it".  

You wouldn't know an answer to a question if it was spit in your face!
Strategy???? Discussions (you call debates), have no strategy...only Cissy games
have a useless strategy! Discussions are just that...discussions!!!!
Response on "GET IT" is only meaningless to people like you that are too stupid
and narrow minded to "GET IT"!
So many others GET IT without further explanation, except for you and the
other HATERS! Sorry, that's your problem, not mine!
You just use everyone's postings as a platform for your own agenda,
because Cissy must be heard, just like another hater!!!

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So many others GET IT without further explanation, except for you and the
other HATERS! [quote]

Is getting it a shared same belief or is it different for different people? What is your take on "getting it"?

Quoted from joebxr

OMG a spitter aimed at those who took part in the killing of a half million civilians in SE Asia.
PROVE I TOOK PART IN ANY KILLING JACKASS!
What a horrible person, expressing his Constitutional rights to object to mass murder.
WHERE DOES THE CONSTITUION GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO COMMIT BATTERY ON ANYONE BY SPITTING ON THEM JACKASS?
Baby killing hypocrites are outraged by spitters.
ONCE AGAIN, SHOW PROOF THAT I AM GUILTY OF THIS JACKASS!

I would spit on anyone who supports mass murder.
SUCH AN ACTON WOULD RECEIVE A REACTION, JUSTIFABLY JACKASS! I'VE BEEN WAITING!!!!!

1.So you first ask me to prove that you took part in a war that you openly stated your participation in.

2.Spitting on homicidal maniacs is freedom of expression. Well it was until you patriotic disease infected retards made it a felony.

3. I state that I would spit on those who support mass murder. You then claim to be waiting for it to happen so that you can retaliate. That in itself is an admission.

You have already admitted serving in Viet Nam.

Sure, you probably just carried a pen and clipboard, or something to that effect, but you were support services for those who committed crimes against humanity and massacred women and children. Your fellow members of your organization were convicted of the massacre of women and children.A half million dead innocent civilians were a direct result of the actions of those who you supported as a member.

Deny it all you want.

The facts are already out there.

And the brotherhood to which you swore allegiance, is still committing atrocities world wide, and you still feel they deserve honor for their service.

Your brothers in arms have killed more innocent people than any other entity in the history of the world.

The few,

the proud,

the insane!

Quoted from joebxr

   Quoted from CICERO


    I guess the simple question is, if you were enlisted while these decisions that you disagree with were made, do you deploy and kill anyways?  

    Does the soldier have any responsibility for his/her individual actions?  My position is that they do.  If as box and joebx said in prior posts is true, that soldiers can discern between just and unjust killing and that they are not just order-takers, then soldiers fighting in Iraq(which Box has called an illegal war many times) willingly fought and killed in an illegal war.  I don't recognize superior orders as a defense for participation and atrocities committed in an illegal war of aggression.


There it is....just another stupid meaningless Cissy Wah-wah  straw man!
That's how he "debates" everything. Can't deal with direct discussion, must
spin the direction for his own narrow minded agenda! Cissy games as usual!

Wow, compelling argument.

You were asked a serious question which you have successfully redirected into a personal attack.

OK, it's my turn to be attacked, pitbull.

Quoted from joebxr

You wouldn't know an answer to a question if it was spit in your face!
Strategy???? Discussions (you call debates), have no strategy...only Cissy games
have a useless strategy! Discussions are just that...discussions!!!!
Response on "GET IT" is only meaningless to people like you that are too stupid
and narrow minded to "GET IT"!
So many others GET IT without further explanation, except for you and the
other HATERS! Sorry, that's your problem, not mine!
You just use everyone's postings as a platform for your own agenda,
because Cissy must be heard, just like another hater!!!

Objection.
The retarded hater of peace seekers is clearly redirecting the argument into another personal attack.

Quoted from joebxr

You wouldn't know an answer to a question if it was spit in your face!

Response on "GET IT" is only meaningless to people like you that are too stupid
and narrow minded to "GET IT"!
!

All truth passes through three stages.

First, it is ridiculed.

Second, it is violently opposed.

Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Arthur Schopenhauer

Quoted from Libertarian4life

1.So you first ask me to prove that you took part in a war that you openly stated your participation in.
PROVE I TOOK PART IN THE KILLING AS YOU CLAIM DUMBASS! YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU WROTE!!!!
2.Spitting on homicidal maniacs is freedom of expression. Well it was until you patriotic disease infected retards made it a felony.
FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION???? WELL THAT SHOWS JUST HOW MENTALLY DEFICIENT YOU ARE!
3. I state that I would spit on those who support mass murder. You then claim to be waiting for it to happen so that you can retaliate. That in itself is an admission.
MY CLAIM IS WAITING FOR YOU TO PERFORM YOUR ACT OF BATTERY, WHICH YOU NOW ARE TRYING TO TIE TO
A SPECIFIC ACT OF A PERSON RATHER THAN WHAT YOU HAVE CLAIMED ALL ALONG...BECUASE I SERVED IN VIETNAM!!
You have already admitted serving in Viet Nam.
DUH!

The facts are already out there.
YOUR FABRICATED FACTS ARE OUT THERE. YOUR DEMENTED VIEW IS OUT THERE.
YOUR CLAIMS ARE OUT THERE. NO SUPPORT FOR YOUR CLAIMS EXIST, AND  I WAIT FOR YOU
TO PROVE THE LIES ABOUT ME YOU ARE PERPETRATING! HOW ABOUT IT JACKASS...SHOW THE PROOF!

The few, the dumb, the insane!
THAT'S YOUR SMALL BORTHERHOOD!

So you are claiming you did nothing at all to aide and abet the Marines in Viet Nam?

Simple question, yes or no.

Either you were a member and participant, or you are a coward afraid to admit aiding and abetting criminals.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

So you are claiming you did nothing at all to aide and abet the Marines in Viet Nam?

Simple question, yes or no.

Either you were a member and participant, or you are a coward afraid to admit aiding and abetting criminals.

I'm proud of my service.
I'm proud of who I am and have become.
Beyond that, I owe you absolutely nothing more.
Deal with it you dumbass, cowardly spitter...GOT IT?

I may disagree with Joe on many other issues but I would never question or vilify his service to our country as a Marine.  To those who have served -- THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.   To those those who mock and degrade them -- f*** you .. Russia or the Taliban or ISIS would be glad to take your sorry asses, screw you and leave you on a rubbish pile.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

I may disagree with Joe on many other issues but I would never question or vilify his service to our country as a Marine.  To those who have served -- THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.   To those those who mock and degrade them -- f*** you .. Russia or the Taliban or ISIS would be glad to take your sorry asses, screw you and leave you on a rubbish pile.

So, you are a part time, selective pro-lifer.

You are a pro-american lifer.

Another flag waving supporter of taking lives.

How nationalist of you.

So your One Nation Under God theory is just more BS?

I missed the part in the Bible where God supports the government ordering the slaughter of the innocent as acceptable collateral damages.

Pro life means all life is sacred.

Not just American lives.

Self justify slaughtering the rest of the world is nothing to honor.

You must be one of those new age type Christians whereby killing is acceptable as long as you have self justification.

Thou shalt not kill version 2.0 *(unless it can be self justified)

Quoted from joebxr

I'm proud of my service.
I'm proud of who I am and have become.
Deal with it you dumbass, cowardly spitter...GOT IT?

So you did take an active part in the deaths of a half million innocent people.

Thank you for admitting it.

You should concentrate on not letting others do the same, not honoring those actions; whereby the innocent are slaughtered regularly.

This self justifying use of deadly force is why our streets are blood stained.

You people honor those who kill.

It's like Satan is running our country.

Oh, wait...

Quoted from Libertarian4life

So you did take an active part in the deaths of a half million innocent people.

Thank you for admitting it.

You should concentrate on not letting others do the same, not honoring those actions; whereby the innocent are slaughtered regularly.

So you still claim false facts.  I'm waiting for you to step up and answer the questions
I presented...I asked you to PROVE YOUR FALSE ALLEGATIONS WITH FACTS. Instead,
you go on with your ignorant rants. You are a coward that points fingers and makes
false allegations but never facts to back them up.  How about it jackass...present the facts
and prove your claims instead of continuing your lies.  Come on coward spitter, step up!

Quoted from joebxr

You wouldn't know an answer to a question if it was spit in your face!
Strategy???? Discussions (you call debates), have no strategy...only Cissy games
have a useless strategy! Discussions are just that...discussions!!!!

Discussions to you are conversations where everybody agrees with you.  But, if you read the definition of discussion...

Main Entry: dis·cus·sion
Pronunciation: \di-ˈskə-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 :  consideration of a question in open and usually informal debate 2 :  a formal treatment of a topic in speech or writing