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Sitting in my hotel room, watching the surf roll over the sand.
I would comment if there were a post worthy of a reply.  


Why are you sitting in your hotel room??? You should be at the beach in a collapsible camp chair with something in the drink holder!


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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or at lease using a metal detector to find that pot of gold....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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U.S. airstrike reportedly kills three 'senior members' of ISIS, with one shot!

Way to go Commander In Chief!!!  

Daily News
http://www.nydailynews.com/new.....ts-article-1.1928373


Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it.

Noam Chomsky



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Obama's now conducting the world's greatest international terrorist campaign – the drones and special forces campaign.

It's also a terror-generating campaign.

The common understanding at the highest level [is] that these actions generate potential terrorists.

I'll quote General Stanley McChrystal, Petraeus' predecessor.

He says that "for every innocent person you kill", and there are plenty of them, "you create ten new enemies"
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He says that "for every innocent person you kill", and there are plenty of them, "you create ten new enemies"


Yes L4L, it's called propaganda. You do understand that these 'groups' purposely use civilians just for this purpose.





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Yes L4L, it's called propaganda. You do understand that these 'groups' purposely use civilians just for this purpose.



What groups use civilians for propaganda?

The friends and families of the dead innocent victims?
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U.S. Government propaganda tries to give the impression that aerial bombardment achieves near-surgical accuracy, so that military targets can be destroyed with minimal effect on civilians. Technical documents give a different picture.

Noam Chomsky
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What groups use civilians for propaganda?

The friends and families of the dead innocent victims?


Ok. Lets take Hamas.

They positioned rocket launchers in schoolyards, near hospitals and told the populace to stay in their homes. Hamas fires rockets, Israel retaliates by striking the rocket site. Some kids get killed and then it's off to the press blaming Israel for purposely targeting children, sick people and innocent civilians.






"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Ok. Lets take Hamas.

They positioned rocket launchers in schoolyards, near hospitals and told the populace to stay in their homes. Hamas fires rockets, Israel retaliates by striking the rocket site. Some kids get killed and then it's off to the press blaming Israel for purposely targeting children, sick people and innocent civilians.




Let's take the US military:

In nearly every single action more civilians are killed than soldiers.

We don't own the entire world.

It is not ours to bomb and attack at will.

In Iraq, even the most lenient counts are approx. 200,000 killed.

With 75% being civilians.





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Ok. Lets take Hamas.

They positioned rocket launchers in schoolyards, ...


This does not justify killing innocent people.

You are describing a hostage situation whereby no consideration is given to the innocent, because you have already self justified your retaliation.

If Hamas fires rockets, retaliate against them.

Blowing up innocent people is terrorism.

Fighting terrorism with bigger terrorism is an absolutely un-winnable situation.



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In the late 1990s, some of the worst terrorist atrocities in the world were what the Turkish government itself called state terror, namely massive atrocities, 80 percent of the arms coming from the United States, millions of refugees, tens of thousands of people killed, hideous repression, that's international terror, and we can go on and on.
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Ok. Lets take Hamas.

They positioned rocket launchers in schoolyards, near hospitals and told the populace to stay in their homes. Hamas fires rockets, Israel retaliates by striking the rocket site. Some kids get killed and then it's off to the press blaming Israel for purposely targeting children, sick people and innocent civilians.




Schenectady County is 210 square miles and has a population of 155k

Gaza Strip is 139 square miles and has a population of 1.8 million.

Do the math.  

Based on an article I read, Hamas had 3000 elite fighters that were ready to attack Israel.  Israel flattened neighborhoods with air strikes going after 3000 fighters in a densely populated area.  And you still blame dirt poor Palestine?  Talk about propaganda?

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A Middle East expert told CNN Friday that at least 3,000 members of Hamas’ elite fighting forces are prepared to carry out suicide attacks against Israelis.




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You just replied, so I guess you thought it was worthy.

I hope you brought your pom-poms and plenty of lotion for Obama's 'Golf War' speech tomorrow.

I'm also kind of surprised you are near the ocean, given your alarmist fears of it rising and swallowing you up.  


Alarmist fears??? No, you have the wrong person.  I follow the science on Climate Change.  
For "alarmist fears" see Henry who is filling his home bunker with guns ammo and doomsday provisions.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Box, you still at the beach?  Try FREEZING COLD CORONA...
Iced Mug
Corona in freezer for 10 mins
Pour into large Mug and put in 3 ice cubes
Drink whole mug within 15-20mins before ice melts a lot
FREEZING COLD BEER....amazing!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Ok. Lets take Hamas.

They positioned rocket launchers in schoolyards, near hospitals and told the populace to stay in their homes.



Well that's what they 'tell us' any way!
the lame stream media...aka arm of the government....will tell the masses what to think and believe based on their 'so called' reporting!!
their job is to sway public opinion....most times in favor of going to war or to pick sides or to invent a boogie man.
they make us hate/fear other cultures, countries, governments that we have NEVER even met or seen!!!
DON'T BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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