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Alva White
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Looks like the Hannaford chain is no longer staying open 24 hrs. I thought it just pertained to the Rotterdam store, as they've had a sign posted which says they will be closed from 12 - 6 am starting Aug. 31. Checking around though it's not the only one.


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people do not trust going out at those hours anymore...especially in rotterdam.....know for sure....not safe...
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people do not trust going out at those hours anymore...especially in rotterdam.....know for sure....not safe...


I know a couple of long-time employees at the Rotterdam store, and from what they tell me it's more a problem of bottom line and the inability to staff overnitgts. I've been in Hannaford and PC late at night, and really I've never understood how they can afford to stay open. Although I'm sure some folks don't venture out because of safety, I think the bigger issue is profitability of the stores. As you all well know grocery store profit margins are measured in just a few pennies.


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I go to Hannaford often after midnight. The store employees are busy stocking the shelves.

They can't stock shelves in the dark. The lights will still be on all night.

It costs one salary to have someone at the register. That person is also usually doing other chores all night.

I did make the mistake of not locking the doors on my vehicle one night and everything that wasn't bolted down was taken.

I was the only car in the lot and one parking space from the door.

I still like going there for certain items.

Walmart at Balltown Rd. and State St. is open 24 hours and for canned foods and frozen foods the save you a ton of money.

Marie Callander's large TV dinners at Walmart are $2. At Hannaford and Price Chopper the are $3.59.

Almost every frozen food is at least 25% cheaper at Walmart.

Hannaford and Shop rite have good choices of canned fruits containing no sugar or aspartame.

Walmart has a better selection of canned vegetables and lower prices.

Shop Rite closes at 11pm as well.
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I go to Hannaford often after midnight. The store employees are busy stocking the shelves.

They can't stock shelves in the dark. The lights will still be on all night.

It costs one salary to have someone at the register. That person is also usually doing other chores all night.

I did make the mistake of not locking the doors on my vehicle one night and everything that wasn't bolted down was taken.

I was the only car in the lot and one parking space from the door.

I still like going there for certain items.

Walmart at Balltown Rd. and State St. is open 24 hours and for canned foods and frozen foods the save you a ton of money.

Marie Callander's large TV dinners at Walmart are $2. At Hannaford and Price Chopper the are $3.59.

Almost every frozen food is at least 25% cheaper at Walmart.

Hannaford and Shop rite have good choices of canned fruits containing no sugar or aspartame.

Walmart has a better selection of canned vegetables and lower prices.

Shop Rite closes at 11pm as well.


Hey I'm just pointing out what I was told by folks who work for the company, I figure they know more about it than I.

By the way they've been doing a real crappy job of stocking the shelves at night at the Rotterdam store. And it also appears their loss prevention people are asleep on the job. Bought a small container of coffee the other day, and when I got home found it had been opened and was half empty. Although they replaced my coffee, they wouldn't compensate me for my time and gas I used driving back to return it.


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My thought....if folks can't do grocery shopping between the hours of 6am and midnite  7 days a week.....they got to reorganize their lives! I mean really!! imho

not to mention that there are plenty of other establishments opened 24/7.

and they probably aren't generating enough revenue to stay open during those hours.


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My thought....if folks can't do grocery shopping between the hours of 6am and midnite  7 days a week.....they got to reorganize their lives! I mean really!! imho

not to mention that there are plenty of other establishments opened 24/7.

and they probably aren't generating enough revenue to stay open during those hours.


LOL I have to agree.

"The average profit margin for grocery stores is 1.3 percent” says Jeff Cohen, a grocery industry analyst with IBIS World.  

That quote is from a year ago.


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I love shopping at night, hardly no lines and you basically have the place to yourself. Even during the day some of the stores are understaffed and you have insanely long lines. When at Walmart if you have long lines walk over to the electronics section and cash out there


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I love shopping at night, hardly no lines and you basically have the place to yourself. Even during the day some of the stores are understaffed and you have insanely long lines. When at Walmart if you have long lines walk over to the electronics section and cash out there


We shop 7a.m and it is great!!


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We shop 7a.m and it is great!!


9-10 am on Fridays. The only time it's crowded is the Friday before a holiday. Even then it's not that bad.


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Shopping at Shop Rite when it is crowded is like being on bumper cars.

The aisles are too narrow.
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Shopping at Shop Rite when it is crowded is like being on bumper cars.

The aisles are too narrow.


That's probably by design. By slowing you down they figure you'll buy more. One of many supermarket tricks to keep you in the store. The longer you're in the building the more you'll spend. Or so they say. I saw a whole list of supermarket tricks somewhere once. I don't remember that one being on it, but same deal.


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That's probably by design. By slowing you down they figure you'll buy more. One of many supermarket tricks to keep you in the store. .



Nope, not true.  I mean it could be what you are saying about design, but the Nisky ShopRite is tight for aisles but the did not built that store.   They took a kind of old fashioned small grocery store, once a Grand Union and put a Shop Rite in there.

If Price Chopper never moved across the street on Eastern Pkey, they potentially would have been in their former small store.  

Go to Shop Rite in Colonie and Albany, far more square feet, but they built those from scratch.  But then actually, keeping you in the store longer buy having wide aisles and more distance over all can also be said for the big huge stores.


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Ah, I found the list I had seen. This is part of 50 tricks actually. I like the one about shaking the excess water off of produce. I hate those misters. They will do anything to slow you down in a store.

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1. Shopping carts are getting bigger so you’ll put more in them: “We doubled their size as a test, and customers bought 19% more,” explained Martin Lindstrom, marketing consultant and author of Brandwashed: Tricks Companies Use to Manipulate Our Minds and Persuade Us to Buy.

2. You probably only know the price of four items: Your brain can only hold so much. So while you know the approximate price of milk, bread, banana and eggs, 95% of shoppers have no clue what other things cost. The clueless shopper then doesn’t know if you’re getting a good deal on whatever you buy outside those four things, so it might be good to study up.

3. More than half of shoppers decide not to buy stuff in the checkout line: That’s why supermarkets have started making checkout lanes narrower with less space to off-load those items. If you can’t dump it, you might be more likely to buy it. Dump early, folks. Dump early.

4. Wear headphones and listen to upbeat music while you shop: Many stores plant earworms by way of slow music, slower than the average heartbeat. That lulls you into spending more time at the store, which then leads to spending about 29% more, Lindstrom says.

5. Because grocery stores can’t compete with Walmart on price, they’re classing things up to bring you in: To compete with the low prices elsewhere, many stores are bringing in butchers who are skilled with the knife and produce managers who are pros on fruits and vegetables, along with dietitians who give seminars on healthy eating habits, according to Jeff Weidauer, a former supermarket executive and vice president of marketing for Vestcom, a retail services company.

6. That myth about milk being in the back of the store so you have to walk aisle to get to it? Not quite the real reason: It’s even simpler than tempting you with stuff on the way in, explains Weidauer. “Milk needs to be refrigerated right away; the trucks unload in the back, so the fridges are there so that we can fill the cases as quickly and easily as possible.”

7. If you need a cake, don’t buy it the day you need it: “We’ll have to give you one from the display case, and those cakes have often been sitting out for a while. If you order in advance, we’ll make the cake for you that day or the night before, and it will be a lot fresher.” — a former cake decorator and bakery worker at a grocery store near Birmingham, Alabama.

8. Sure, that mist on your fruits and vegetables looks nice: But really it can make them rot faster, Lindstrom says. Also make sure you shake off your leafy greens before you get to the checkout — the mist can add to an item’s weight.

9. Ask and ye shall receive: “The butcher will tenderize meat for you, the baker will slice a loaf of bread, and the florist will usually give you free greenery to go with your loose flowers,” says Teri Gault, grocery savings expert and CEO of thegrocerygame.com. “At some stores owned by Kroger, the seafood department worker will even coat your fish in flour or Cajun seasoning and fry it up for free.”

10. If something is about to expire the next day, ask about getting a discount early: If you see something in the bakery or meat department that’s probably going to get marked down tomorrow, say “Hey, this is expiring tomorrow. Are you going to mark it down?” Sometimes they’ll do it for you right then. They’ll have to sell it later anyway, so you’re helping them out, says Gault.

11. We’re all fools for the ten-for$10 promotion: “We’ll take an 89-cent can of tuna and mark it ‘ten for $10,’ 
and instead of buying six cans for 89 cents, people will buy ten for $10,” explains Weidauer. Who else feels like a sucker?

12. Just because you saw it in your grocery store circular doesn’t mean it’s necessarily on sale: Some of those products are just advertised so you’ll buy them. Make sure there’s an actual sale on an item before you set your heart on buying it.

13. There’s a reason that bread is in a brown paper bag: The faster the bread goes stale, the sooner you’ll be back at the store to buy more, a former worker says. Put loaves in airtight plastic bags as soon as you get home.

14. Avoid the herd mentality: Shop when the store isn’t as crowded or you could be in danger of buying more so you can be part of the group. Mondays and Tuesdays are the best — skip weekends if you can.

15. USDA quality grade means more than the cut’s name: Angus? So what — that’s no guarantee it’ll be a good steak, says Kari Underly, former grocery store meat cutter and author of The Art of Beef Cutting: A Meat Professional’s Guide to Butchering and Merchandising. “Prime is the best, then choice (usually the highest grade available in grocery stores), followed by select, and finally standard.”

16. You aren’t that apple’s first customer: Shoppers are constantly picking up produce, dropping it, and putting it back, explains another former grocery worker, so beware. “I’ve seen kids take a bite and put the item back. It took me a long time to start eating fresh fruits and vegetables again after working in a store,” she says.

17. The carts never get cleaned: Babies will do their business on carts, chicken juice will leak and who knows if anyone cleaned up after that? If you’re worried about germs, give carts a quick swipe with sanitizing wipes.


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               hysterical naked,
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               an angry fix,"


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Quoted from Libertarian4life
Shopping at Shop Rite when it is crowded is like being on bumper cars.

The aisles are too narrow.


true...we go to the colonie one....very nice

I am not driving from store to store to save some pennies/nickels/dimes/quarters or even $1.....

I do all my shopping at one store and it depends on my mood....I have found that no matter what, basically the cart
cost the same....

saving $10 for a driving hassle isn't worth it.....

I do find Price Chopper to be 'food stamp' cost....it's too expensive......


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