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The Schenectady County Metroplex Development Authority today provided an update on 47 Payment in Lieu of Tax (Pilot) agreements it administers as part of Schenectady County’s unified economic development team. The Pilot agreements generated a total of $14.18 million in payments to local governments in Schenectady County in 2013 up from $9.23 million in 2012. Between 2012 and 2013 pilot revenues increased by more than 53%. The 2011 Pilot report issued by Metroplex showed total revenues of $4.45 million.

Thirty eight (3 of the 47 pilot projects were built at empty buildings, vacant land or formerly tax-exempt property. These sites generated minimal or no taxes prior to the economic development projects being built. The other 9 projects were company expansions that created new Pilot revenues.

Ray Gillen, Chair of the Schenectady County Metroplex Development Authority said, “We are taking property that paid little or no taxes before and we are building projects at these sites that create new jobs and new revenues for local governments.”

14 Projects Were Built on Formerly Government–Owned Land/Buildings or Tax-Exempt Land that Paid $0 in Taxes Now Paying $1,671,544 in Pilot Payments

MVP at 625 State Street in downtown Schenectady. Built on government–owned land that was returned to tax rolls. 175,000 square foot office building $318,103 up from $256,569 last year.
Hampton Inn at 450 State Street in downtown Schenectady. Built on government-owned land that was returned to tax rolls. 62,000 square foot hotel $165,277 up from $144,506 last year.
400 State Street in downtown Schenectady. Built on government–owned land that was returned to tax rolls. 60,200 square foot building $62,536 up from $31,182 last year.
Broadway Center in downtown Schenectady. Built on government–owned land that was returned to tax rolls. 140,000 square foot office building $316,978 up from $307,455 last year.
2135 Technology Drive in Schenectady. Built on government-owned land that was returned to the tax rolls. 22,000 square foot building $45,422 down from $61,711 last year.
Utech at 135 Broadway in downtown Schenectady. Government-owned building that was returned to tax rolls $24,856 up from $22,340 last year.
M&P Labs 2210 Technology Drive in Schenectady. Built on government-owned land that was returned to tax rolls. $101,538 up from $93,452 last year.
Pace Analytical at 2190 Technology Drive in Schenectady. Built on government-owned land that was returned to tax rolls. $49,602 up from $45,519 last year.

2165 Technology Drive in Schenectady. Built on government-owned land that was returned to tax rolls. 27,000 square foot building $55,554 up from $50,982 last year.
426 State Street in downtown Schenectady. Built at government-owned building that was returned to tax rolls. 34,000 square feet $89,054 up from $75,000 last year.
Former Scotia Navy Depot in Glenville $285,991 up from $271,869 last year.
Columbia McClellan Group at 600 McClellan Street in Schenectady. 45,550 square feet built on formerly tax-exempt property $38,771 down from $54,789 last year.
Fortitech at the Schenectady County Airport in Glenville. Built on government-owned land that was returned to the tax rolls. 95,000 square feet $96,895 up from $85,853 last year.
Bombers at 447 State Street in downtown Schenectady. Built at formerly government-owned building $20,967 up from $18,755 last year.

10 Projects Were Built at Formerly Vacant Buildings that Paid No Taxes or Nominal Taxes Now Paying $1,349,963 in Pilot Payments

BN Partners at 1510 Maxon Road in downtown Schenectady. 240,000 square foot office building $584,020 up from $466,132 last year.
433 State Street in downtown Schenectady $229,583 up from $150,000 last year.
Villa Italia at 226 Broadway in downtown Schenectady $29,041 up from $26,567 last year.
JMR Development at 600 Liberty Street in downtown Schenectady $75,000 same as last year.
411 State St in downtown Schenectady $37,105 up from $25,000 last year.
401 State in downtown Schenectady $64,190 up from $63,250 last year.
409 State in downtown Schenectady $33,000 same as last year.
World Star at 450 Duane Avenue in Schenectady $164,678 down from $179,229 last year.
Mohawk Honda in Glenville $99,004 up from $59,941 last year.
Columbia Altamont at 1925 Curry Road in Rotterdam $34,342 up from $30,865 last year.

14 Projects Were Built on Vacant Land that Formerly Generated Nominal Taxes Now Paying $1,953,932 in Pilot Payments

Railex at the Rotterdam Corporate Park 220,000 square foot warehouse built on vacant land. $308,000 up from $302,114 last year.
376 Broadway in downtown Schenectady. 24,000 square office building built on vacant land $78,689 up from $71,866 last year.
Marcella’s at 564 Broadway in downtown Schenectady. 16,750 square foot facility built on vacant land $62,954 up from $56,593 last year.
Unilux at Niskayuna Commerce Park 67,000 square foot manufacturing plant built on vacant land. $144,525 up from $102,839 last year.
Opus Business Park (now Burdeck Street Business Park) in Rotterdam. Three buildings — 15,600 square feet building built on vacant land $20,974 up from $18,979 last year, 35,100 square foot building built on vacant land $61,419 up from $55,844 last year and 25,000 square foot building built on vacant land $40,795 up from $36,798 last year.
Dimension Fabricators at 2000 Seventh Avenue in Glenville. 152,000 square foot building built on vacant land $223,081 up from $212,066 last year.
Argo Turbo Serve at 588 Broadway in downtown Schenectady. 22,000 square foot building built on former vacant lot $21,697 up from $2,890 last year.
Alco site in Schenectady. Vacant land brownfield remediation underway $40,000 same as last year.

FG Rotterdam Holdings in Rotterdam. 31,800 square foot office building built on vacant land $33,629 up from $32,154 last year.
EMI Properties in Rotterdam. 6,600 square foot facility built on vacant land $10,641 up from $9,690 last year.
NE IP Holding (FedEx Freight) in Rotterdam Corporate Park. 50,000 square foot facility built on vacant land $81,267 up from $71,773 last year.
FM Ventures in Rotterdam Corporate Park. 152,000 square foot building built on vacant land $313,337 up from $275,504 last year.
Long Pond Village in Rotterdam. 192 unit apartment complex built on vacant land $214,070 up from $193,408 last year.
Capital Living in Schenectady. New Pilot for skilled nursing facility paying $298,854 built on vacant land.

9 Company Agreements/Expansions Paying $9,203,839

Three Pilots at GE Global Research Center in Niskayuna for chemical engineering building expansion, new Pilot manufacturing facility and expansion of Energy Learning Center $624,233 up from $599,308 last year.
Kingsway Arms Nursing Center in Schenectady. New construction addition of 56,000 square feet $245,220 up from $237,853 last year.
GE battery plant and Global Renewable Energy Headquarters with a total of 470,000 square feet of renovated space in Buildings 53 and 66 at downtown Schenectady energy campus $2,786,087 up from $2,661,357 last year.
GE Rotterdam $4,800,000 new pilot this year.
SI Group in Rotterdam Junction. 40,000 square foot expansion $689,670 up from $626,703 last year.
Golub Corporation Distribution Center expansion $58,629 up from $51,436 last year.

Expiring Pilots

Time Warner Cable at 1021 Highbridge Road in Rotterdam. 80,000 square foot office building built on vacant land. Last year’s pilot payment $251,170. Now 100% on tax rolls.
Belvedere Hotel at 1930 Curry Road in Rotterdam. 28,725 square foot building built on vacant land. Last year’s pilot payment $49,064. Now 100% on tax rolls.
Fortitech at 2105 Technology Drive in Schenectady. Built on government-owned land that was returned to tax rolls. 130,000 square foot facility. Last year’s pilot payment $186,994. Now 100% on tax rolls.
SI Group at 2750 Balltown Road in Niskayuna. 83,640 square foot expansion. Last year’s pilot payment $570,000. Now 100% on tax rolls.
Environment One at 2773 Balltown Road in Niskayuna. 42,000 square foot facility expansion added 34,000 square feet. Last year’s pilot payment $93,397. Now 100% on tax rolls.

New Pilots Coming on Line in 2014

New Target store in Glenville built at empty retail site.
Building 14 in Rotterdam former State Bakery will begin Pilot payments.
Curry Road Plaza in Rotterdam new private development at former Town-owned vacant retail site.
Schenectady Armory former State owned facility in Schenectady being redeveloped.
845 Broadway former vacant factory space redeveloped as housing.
301 Green Street former vacant window factory redeveloped as housing.
245 Broadway and Town Homes at Union Square – two new residential projects on formerly vacant lots in Schenectady.


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Ray Gillen, Chair of the Schenectady County Metroplex Development Authority said, “We are taking property that paid little or no taxes before and we are building projects at these sites that create new jobs and new revenues for local governments.”


Nobody is disputing it generates revenue for the government.  Government doesn't "generate" revenue, it steals it from the people.  The residents are not seeing a dime in their wallets.  The government and millionaire businesses are.

Stealing tax money from residents to give to businesses to generate MORE tax revenue sounds like a government with its hands in both pockets.

I'm pretty sure if Walmart stole money from their customers and bought flat screen TV's with it, only to sell it back to the customers they stole the money from, people wouldn't be cheering Walmart as a company "generating revenue".  That business model only works with government.


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Nobody is disputing it generates revenue for the government.  Government doesn't "generate" revenue, it steals it from the people.  The residents are not seeing a dime in their wallets.  The government and millionaire businesses are.

Stealing tax money from residents to give to businesses to generate MORE tax revenue sounds like a government with its hands in both pockets.

I'm pretty sure if Walmart stole money from their customers to build their store,  only to sell the merchandise back to the customers they stole the money from with a 1/2% surcharge, people wouldn't be cheering Walmart as a company "generating revenue".  That business model only works with government.



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Hey DV, typical of you.  You ONLY know how to copy and paste what the political cronies write.


Are you THAT DESPERATE that you cannot think for yourself and engage in DISCUSSION of the results of these so called pilots?

Have you EVER bothered to find out the total amount of taxes that financially struggling homeowners must pay in order to make up for the amount of tax revenue that is NOT paid by these multi-millionaires and billionaires???????   Would you care to do that for us, provide us the total amount that families with incomes of under $40,000 a year must pay for the rich political cronies of the dems???????     Would you care to tell us what the tax BILLS of people would be IF the rich cronies paid the full amount of their taxes?


What are these so called pilots doing to the tax base IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to property values IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to home sales IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to home sale prices IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to the amount of time it takes homes to sell IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to the number of people choosing to move INTO in the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to tax BILLS of homeowners in the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to the number of vacant residential units in the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to the amount of affordable housing IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to number of homeowners who are underwater on their mortgage IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing the numbers of abandoned properties IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to the amount of blight IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to essential services provided to the RESIDENTS in the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to quality of life IN the neighborhoods in the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to blight IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to sales tax revenue IN the city ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to the property value of TAXPAYING properties in downtown ? ? ? ? ?

What are these pilots doing to number of new car dealerships IN the city ? ? ? ? ?



Can you answer ANY of the questions above AND provide EVIDENCE to prove what you answer????


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    Between 2012 and 2013 pilot revenues increased by more than 53%. .


Now DV, instead of you copying and pasting LIES and propaganda from those who are getting kickbacks from these millionaires, do you suppose you can actually engage in discussion and state some facts that are actually TRUTHS ??????


Between 2012 and 2013, what is the percent drop in the tax base in the city?

Between 2012 and 2013, what is the percent drop in property values in the city?

Between 2012 and 2013, what is the percent drop home sale prices in the city?

Between 2012 and 2013, what is the percent drop in tax revenue due to increase in tax foreclosures in the city?

Between 2012 and 2013, what is the percent increase in the tax BILLS of financially struggling homeowners in the city?

Between 2012 and 2013, what is the percent drop in the numbers of home sales in the city?

Between 2012 and 2013, what is the percent increase in the number of houses put up for sale in the city because people want out?

Between 2012 and 2013, what is the percent increase in the number of TAXPAYING businesses that opened without any taxpayer handouts in the city?



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Nobody is disputing it generates revenue for the government.  Government doesn't "generate" revenue, it steals it from the people.  The residents are not seeing a dime in their wallets.  The government and millionaire businesses are.

Stealing tax money from residents to give to businesses to generate MORE tax revenue sounds like a government with its hands in both pockets.

I'm pretty sure if Walmart stole money from their customers and bought flat screen TV's with it, only to sell it back to the customers they stole the money from, people wouldn't be cheering Walmart as a company "generating revenue".  That business model only works with government.


According to your "logic", the government is stealing from the people.  So based on that "logic", YOU are guilty of stealing from others every time that you use a government service or government built infrastructure.
Obviously, your "logic," like most of your comments, is pulled out of your a** and makes absolutely no sense.


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According to your "logic", the government is stealing from the people.  So based on that "logic", YOU are guilty of stealing from others every time that you use a government service or government built infrastructure.
Obviously, your "logic," like most of your comments, is pulled out of your a** and makes absolutely no sense.


By your logic, Nelson Mandella supported apartheid because he excepted food, water, and medical care from the South African government for 27 years.


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According to your "logic", the government is stealing from the people.  So based on that "logic", YOU are guilty of stealing from others every time that you use a government service or government built infrastructure.
Obviously, your "logic," like most of your comments, is pulled out of your a** and makes absolutely no sense.



Now YOU, DV, are really proving your ignorance.


Taxing homeowners for NECESSARY services such as infrastructure is NOT stealing.


But taxing homeowners and using their money to pay for the taxes of the multimillionaires IS STEALING from the taxpayer4s!!!!!!!!!!


Exempting downtown millionaires from paying taxes is NOT an appropriate use of taxpayers' money.  

Taxing homeowners to pay for new buildings for millionaires IS STEALING, especially when the homeowners have no money to fix up their own houses


Taxing homeowners to pay for new buildings for millionaires IS STEALING, especially when the city cites homeowners for little violations and then tells the homeowners that they (the city) will financially penalize them if they fail to fix up their houses.  Homeowners have repairs to make on their own houses, but the homeowners have no money to fix up their own houses because the city is STEALING from them--by hiking their taxes--in order to FORCE the homeowners to pay for new buildings for millionaires who have more than enough money to pay for their own buildings!!!!!!!!!


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$14 million in new taxes.

$8 million dollar Metroplex operating budget.

$25 million awarded through tax exemptions, loans and grants.

Bookkeeping is not something you should discuss.

Most people call this a money pit, not a renaissance.

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By your logic, Nelson Mandella supported apartheid because he excepted food, water, and medical care from the South African government for 27 years.


No, that is based on YOUR "logic."   YOU were the one that said that the government was stealing from the people.    Wow - YOUR thinking is so screwed up that even YOU can't keep it straight in YOUR own head.


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No, that is based on YOUR "logic."   YOU were the one that said that the government was stealing from the people.    Wow - YOUR thinking is so screwed up that even YOU can't keep it straight in YOUR own head.




So, DV, making homeowners pay the tax bills of the millionaires is NOT stealing???????????     Homeowners are taxed on their own houses.  

Please explain what it is called when the city and county charge homeowners additional money to make the homeowners cover the taxes that the downtown properties don't pay.

Please explain what it is called when the homeowners have no money to cover the taxes of the downtown properties and the city seizes their homes for non payment?????????    Well, what is this called, DV?????    Huh?????   Are you TOO CHICKEN to answer this question????????

Is it proper for a homeowner to lose their home because they do not have the money to pay the extra taxes added on to their bill to cover the tax bills of the multimillionaire political cronies of the city/co/plex dems?



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No, that is based on YOUR "logic."   YOU were the one that said that the government was stealing from the people.    Wow - YOUR thinking is so screwed up that even YOU can't keep it straight in YOUR own head.


Let me slow it down for you.  

You said I was guilty of stealing for using government provided services i'm forced to pay for.  Nelson Mandella opposed the apartheid government, yet he accepted the food, water, and medical care from the government while in prison, so by accepting it, he MUST support the government and their apartheid.  Otherwise he wouldn't have taken the food, water, and medical care.  That is your logic.


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Let me slow it down for you.  

You said I was guilty of stealing for using government provided services i'm forced to pay for.  Nelson Mandella opposed the apartheid government, yet he accepted the food, water, and medical care from the government while in prison, so by accepting it, he MUST support the government and their apartheid.  Otherwise he wouldn't have taken the food, water, and medical care.  That is your logic.



And DV is REALLY stealing from the government.  Sponging off the taxpayer dole via his two mommies getting paid from the taxpayers

And quite obvious he maxed out any welfare benefits he may have had, a single person with no children, not eligible for much, and obviously unable to be a normal adult, he had to move in to live with his two "mommies"  (actually while his parents were still alive)


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Hampton Inn at 450 State Street in downtown Schenectady. .... 62,000 square foot hotel $165,277 up from $144,506 last year.
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OOOOHHHHHH    RAH RAH    The financially struggling homeowners have to pay the roughly $230,000 that the multimillionaire or billionaire Hilton family should be paying.

Cheer Cheer,   RAH RAH.   The city's tax base is falling

Cheer Cheer,   RAH RAH.   The financially struggling homeowners are paying higher taxes every year while the value of their homes is falling big time!!!!

Shake those two pom poms on your chest, DV





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400 State Street in downtown Schenectady.  60,200 square foot building $62,536 up from $31,182 last year.
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OOOOOHHHHHH    DV is going to have an orgasm.


Cheer cheer.   Not including all those special downtown taxes (parking, etc) that BILLIONAIRE Galesi also does NOT pay on this property, WOW.   WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE    DV is cheering

Rah rah the financially struggling homeonwers in the city have to pay the roughly $275,000 in taxes that is NOT being paid by the billionaire


Oh, DV, shake those two pom poms on your chest for the poor homeowners to be paying the taxes of the billionaire.   Oh yea, I'm sure your "boss" would be appreciative to know what a good caring Catholic you claim to be, praising the fact that the poor in the city have to pay the taxes of the downtown rich.


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