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It is you demanding government intervention and social welfare.  I am a total supporter of allowing immigrants to come over freely and build their life freely.  Without the social welfare, they would soon realize how America is just as tough on the poor as Central America.  


I demand no such thing.

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Child Migrants Have Been Coming to America Alone Since Ellis Island
July 18, 2014

by Tasneem Raja

http://billmoyers.com/2014/07/.....-since-ellis-island/


Immigrant children at Ellis Island, New York, circa 1908 (National Archives)

An unaccompanied child migrant was the first person in line on opening day of the new immigration station at Ellis Island. Her name was Annie Moore, and that day, January 1, 1892, happened to be her 15th birthday. She had traveled with her two little brothers from Cork County, Ireland, and when they walked off the gangplank, she was awarded a certificate and a $10 gold coin for being the first to register. Today, a statue of Annie stands on the island, a testament to the courage of millions of children who passed through those same doors, often traveling without an older family member to help them along.


Of course, not everyone was lining up to give Annie and her fellow passengers a warm welcome. Alarmists painted immigrants — children included — as  disease-ridden job stealers bent on destroying the American way of life. And they’re still at it. On a CNN segment about the current crisis of child migrants from Central and South America, Michele Bachmann used the word “invaders” and warned of rape and other dangers posed to Americans by the influx. And last week, National Review scoffed at appeals to American ideals of compassion and charity, claiming Ellis Island officials had a strict send-’em-back policy when it came to children showing up alone.

That’s not true, according to Barry Moreno, a librarian at the Ellis Island Immigration Museum and author of the book Children of Ellis Island. The Immigration Act of 1907 did indeed declare that unaccompanied children under 16 were not permitted to enter in the normal fashion. But it didn’t send them packing, either. Instead, the act set up a system in which unaccompanied children — many of whom were orphans — were kept in detention awaiting a special inquiry with immigration inspectors to determine their fate. At these hearings, local missionaries, synagogues, immigrant aid societies and private citizens would often step in and offer to take guardianship of the child, says Moreno.
A German refugee reads a Superman comic book at the New York Children's Colony, a Viennese-run school for refugee children. (Library of Congress/Marjory Collins)

In Annie’s case, her parents were waiting to receive her; they’d taken the same journey to New York three years before, looking for work. But according to Moreno, thousands of unaccompanied children came over without friends or family on the other side of the crossing, many of them stowaways. Moreno doesn’t know of an official count of how many children were naturalized this way, but he says it was fairly common. And he can point to at least one great success story, that of Henry Armetta, a 15-year-old stowaway from Palermo, Italy, who was sponsored by a local Italian man and went on to be an actor in films with Judy Garland and the Marx Brothers. “He’s one of the best known of the Ellis Island stowaways,” Moreno says.



Eight orphan children whose mothers were killed in a Russian pogrom. They were brought to Ellis Island in 1908. Augustus Sherman/Ellis Island Foundation

Other children journeyed to Ellis Island alone because they had lost their parents, often to war or famine and had been sponsored by immigrant aid societies and other charities in America. The picture above shows eight Jewish children whose mothers had been killed in a Russian pogrom in 1905. The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society had obtained “bonds” to sponsor their immigration, and they arrived at Ellis Island in 1908. As Moreno notes in his book, thousands of orphans came over thanks to such bonds, and after landing, many would travel on “orphan trains” to farms and small towns where their patrons had arranged their stay.


Ellis Island officials made several efforts to care for children detained on the island — those with parents and those without — who could be there for weeks at a time. Around 1900 a playground was constructed there with a sandbox, swings and slides. A group of about a dozen women known as “matrons” played games and sang songs with the children, many of whom they couldn’t easily communicate with due to language barriers. Later, a school room was created for them, and the Red Cross supplied a radio for the children to listen to.

And of course, many of those kids grew up to work tough jobs, start new businesses and create new jobs and pass significant amounts of wealth down to some of the very folks clamoring to “send ‘em back” today.
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http://www.vdare.com/posts/wha.....fter-central-america



What Would be the Next Big Source of Illegal Immigration After Central America?
By Steve Sailer on July 18, 2014
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Tyler Cowen links to somebody saying:

Accepting 60,000 children in a population of 317.2 million — less than two hundred-tenths of 1 percent (.02 percent) of our population — would hardly be straining our resources.
But of course this isn’t about “60,000 children,” it is a symbolic test of national will. If America fails it, then the message goes forth that the door is open in for anybody from anywhere in the world to head to Mexico, where trafficking routes into the U.S. are ready and willing to smuggle you into the welcoming hands of the United States federal government.

Central America has a population of 43 million. But what’s next? Perhaps northern South America, where Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru, and Bolivia have a population around 130 million. How much can they send? Little Guyana in northeast South America has about 30 percent of its population living in the U.S. already, according to the Guyanese statehood movement.

Another possibility is the rapidly growing population of the Philippines, which will soon pass 100,000,000 in population. The Philippines has been one of the rare countries in the world where the Catholic Church really has kept contraceptives out of the hands of the poor, although it lost an important political battle last spring. (I’m guessing the Church’s power in the Philippines is because Cardinal Sin — yes, that was his real name — backed Mrs. Aquino after Ferdinand Marcos had her husband rubbed out in 1983.)

There are large Filipino populations in California and Nevada (Filipinos in Las Vegas got hammered by the mortgage meltdown in 2008, which helped Senator Reid win re-election in 2010.) They’ve tended to be middle class (i.e., 90th percentile) legal immigrants because a plane ticket from Manila to Los Angeles is expensive and you still need to talk your way past Customs and Immigration.

But the whole world is watching what’s happening at the Mexican border.

Without a firm response, a smuggling route from Manila through Mexico, following the route of the galleon trade of the 16th Century, could develop. Shipping is quite cheap these days, and Filipino peasants could be loaded in shipping containers for off-loading a couple of weeks later at the cartel-infested port of Port of Lázaro Cárdenas in Michoacán on Mexico’s Pacific coast. The Mexican government has plans to quintuple container traffic through this port, which is 400 miles closer by rail or road to Texas than the port of Los Angeles-Long Beach, by 2020.

Whether this precisely will happen is of course unlikely. But something rather like this is hardly improbable.
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What Would be the Next Big Source of Illegal Immigration After Central America?


Tyler Cowen links to somebody saying:

Accepting 60,000 children in a population of 317.2 million — less than two hundred-tenths of 1 percent (.02 percent) of our population — would hardly be straining our resources.
But of course this isn’t about “60,000 children,” it is a symbolic test of national will. If America fails it, then the message goes forth that the door is open in for anybody from anywhere in the world to head to Mexico, where trafficking routes into the U.S. are ready and willing to smuggle you into the welcoming hands of the United States federal government.


So if America accepts these refugees, the world will get the wrong impression; that the US is a compassionate place to seek asylum?

Refugees should not have to be smuggled.
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So if America accepts these refugees, the world will get the wrong impression; that the US is a compassionate place to seek asylum?

Refugees should not have to be smuggled.


i agree....but are they refugees or just looking to rush here for the next amnesty/golden ticket?  

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So if America accepts these refugees, the world will get the wrong impression; that the US is a compassionate place to seek asylum?

Refugees should not have to be smuggled.


Refugee status and asylum are government status' defined by borders.  These status' should not exist, there should be no legal paperwork, they are just leaving one geographic area and living their life in another geographic area at a different latitude and longitude.  Human beings shouldn't be processed like cattle.  A refugee is like a runaway slave, they are property of one government and granted asylum to be property of a new government.


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Collect More Than $7,000 Per Month for 'Fostering' Adult Illegal Aliens

by Kristin Tate 29 Jul 2014 2353 post a comment
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HOUSTON, Texas--The federal government is in dire need of U.S. citizens willing to house the thousands of illegal immigrants who enter the country each week, and they are willing to pay them to do so.

The Texas-based nonprofit Catholic Charities is currently seeking out foster families for the migrants, most of whom come from Central America. A spokeswoman for the organization told Breitbart Texas that foster families can receive monthly payments for housing adult immigrants who are under 23-years-old.

"Most of our children are 15 to 17-years-old," she said. "But some stay in our program until they are 22-years-old; if they're still working on getting their high school diploma, they can stay until they're that age."

The revelation that some of the migrants receiving foster care are adults will likely come as a surprise to many; the mainstream media has largely portrayed the border crisis as involving only children and family units.

The spokeswoman mentioned that foster families will be given $40 per day to care for each migrant they take in from Catholic Charities. The assistance is funded by the federal government, as Breitbart Texas previously reported.

Foster parents have the ability to collect more than $7,400 per month, considering that they can house six immigrants at any given time.

The spokeswoman said that the illegal immigrants are provided with taxpayer subsidized education, health care, transportation, and an "allowance." She was not specific about the amount of such an allowance or how often it is administered.

Many have expressed outrage that instead of being turned away at the border, many illegal aliens are being brought to federal facilities where they receive a slew of taxpayer-subsidized benefits: housing, food, vocational training, English lessons, recreation, and legal counsel. Ultimately, most of the migrants are released onto U.S. soil after promising to show up at an immigration court hearing.

Follow Kristin Tate on Twitter @KristinBTate.
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The spokeswoman mentioned that foster families will be given $40 per day to care for each migrant they take in from Catholic Charities. The assistance is funded by the federal government, as Breitbart Texas previously reported.


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Didn't the Native American's fight the invader immigrants coming from Europe?  Or did they offer them unlimited medicine, food, and housing and other resources?  Oh yeah.. The Native American welcomed the pilgrims graciously and fed them.  That is the origin of the first Thanksgiving.  Silly me, I forgot my public education history of the first thanksgiving.

This Native American's logic...We didn't like the Europeans that invaded my ancestors land 500 years ago, so you have no right to protest an immigrant invasion now.


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Technically, the "native Americans" were Ice Age refugees from Asia.  The Pilgrims were refugees from religious persecution.  And so on and so forth.  None of us is actually "native" --- All of us are descendants of immigrants and refugees.


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WOW!!! I just went thru and read all of these!!!! JUST WOW!!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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I don't believe what the government wants us to believe about the Native Americans....when the outsiders came to America the Indians were peaceful.

but the outsiders wanted more and more...just like the government today...they pushed the Indians off their land and killed many Indians,,...the Indians

(liken to what is going on in another country) had a right to fight back for their people and land.

How many Indian children and women were killed???.....it's always been the US was right in doing so.....I don't believe it and never will.....they pushed the

Indians into where they are today....liken ethnic cleansing ..and now look where these Indian tribes are living.....they deserve something and not a free

ride as these aliens coming from other countries are given.....and at our American expense.....how are these people really getting here......

they are being helped by unknowns.....we don't hear about that...only about giving them housing and a free ride for a better life....that's what needs to be

investigated and brought to an end...

at least  years ago the immigrants were documented and had to pay for their trip to America...destination Ellis Island....medically checked.....and then on

to their destination.....and THEN....they had to learn English to become an American citizen....

I am upset that the government is allowing this to happen and we pay to have them housed in our homes.....how do we know just who these people are

and if they are healthy or carrying a disease....

Anyway, I have always supported the American Indians....if you have seen their reservations and how WE forced them to live....maybe you should revisit

the history we have been told.....and read between the lines....

God bless Geronimo....and all the others that have tried to fight for their rights.....we taught them violence...just as what the world is experiencing now.

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