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CICERO
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Ahhh, so you are an expert on military defense of the US and an expert on identification of actual threats to the US and US citizens
and are privy to all the information that the President must have in order to make such a choice.  So why don't you share some of
this top secret information that you base your opinion on so that we may all form similar opinions as you. How about it Cissy...you
seem to know so much more than we do to make these statements, so how about sharing??????


No, I know the Bill of Rights guarantees citizens due process of law.  You have it backwards, the president has the top secret probable cause that justified the extra judicial execution, not me.

See Joey, a secret kill list is just that - secret.  Now, if you have the president's evidence that a US citizen was working with Al Qaeda and plotting to kill Americans, and that the threat was imminent, please share.  Or does your blind loyalty to federal power and the president lead you to the conclusion?

BTW Joey, it wasn't a military operation, it was conducted by the CIA, a non military agency.


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Boy, it's really gotta piss you off to see soldiers coming home and getting a heroes welcome at airports, when they surprise their kids at school and the town fire halls all over the country that have welcome home ceremonies for our nations heroes!   It's gotta get your juices boiling.

Tell me, did you run to the border before Vietnam?  Did you actually perform a service for this country?


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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Boy, it's really gotta piss you off to see soldiers coming home and getting a heroes welcome at airports, when they surprise their kids at school and the town fire halls all over the country that have welcome home ceremonies for our nations heroes!   It's gotta get your juices boiling.

Tell me, did you run to the border before Vietnam?  Did you actually perform a service for this country?


It doesn't piss me off or get my juices boiling to see a "hero's welcome".  I treat it with indifference.  I do feel sorry for the children who have to live without fathers who died in the war, or those fathers that came back not quite the same and are feeling suicidal.  It is a tragedy.  But who cares about that-right?  As long as they "sacrificed" their own lives to supposedly keep us "free" from the scary Afghani's, Iraqi's and Vietnamese, who cares if their personal lives were destroyed?  Not you, you did your part, you gave them a hero's welcome - job well done citizen!

I personally don't fawn over people who chose a career in the military to kill people in faraway lands.  I know I'm supposed to from public schooling to watching sporting events.  I'm guess I'm not a good American for not supporting the destruction war brings abroad and even worse...To those that return.


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Now, if you have the president's evidence that a US citizen was working with Al Qaeda and plotting to kill Americans, and that the threat was imminent, please share.  


Now if you have evidence that he didn't (since it's been reported that such evidence existed) and that this was a personal vendetta (which would be in-line with your accusations)
or illegal action (which it has not been show to be), then how about you share it...how about that?


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Now if you have evidence that he didn't (since it's been reported that such evidence existed)


Oooooh-Oooooh!!  Show me this evidence!

I have seen articles written about WH attorney's writing secret legal briefs justifying the execution.  Never evidence.  But who needs evidence to execute an American with a funny sounding name?  As long as there are a few media reports out there telling us what a bad guy he was.  I think the days of probable cause and due process are just antiquated red tape preventing the president to do what he has to do, when keeping us safe from an imminent attack by a US citizen 10,000 miles away in Yemen.


Do some catching up, and read the link below.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/21/us-release-memo-anwar-al-awlaki-drone-killing

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rand-paul-threatens-to-hold-up-nominee-over-drone-policy/


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Like I thought...you have nothing, as usual.
Only your own stupidity and hatred, which trumps everything else.
Smoke and more smoke, all you ever have!


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Like I thought...you have nothing, as usual.
Only your own stupidity and hatred, which trumps everything else.
Smoke and more smoke, all you ever have!


Like I thought, you don't care if citizens get executed by their own government without due process.  Your lust for state sponsored killing stays with you late into you life.  It must be tough for you to look at state executions as being anything be good.

Let me hear it again..."I fought so you could say those things protected by the 1st amendment".  As you sit here and defend the president denying a citizen those rights guaranteed by the 5th and 6th Amendments.  

BTW...Where is that evidence you were talking about?  I was looking forward to it.  I thought you got your hands on the evidence justifying the extrajudicial executions.  The ACLU may call you, they've been looking for it too.


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Like I thought, you don't care if citizens get executed by their own government without due process.  Your lust for state sponsored killing stays with you late into you life.  It must be tough for you to look at state executions as being anything be good.

Let me hear it again..."I fought so you could say those things protected by the 1st amendment".  As you sit here and defend the president denying a citizen those rights guaranteed by the 5th and 6th Amendments.  

BTW...Where is that evidence you were talking about?  I was looking forward to it.  I thought you got your hands on the evidence justifying the extrajudicial executions.  The ACLU may call you, they've been looking for it too.


Usual Cissy Wah-Wah twist around. I'm not the one that needs to prove anything...you are the one stating the illegalities
and making claims...I'm just looking for you to support your falsehoods and personal feelings that you use as facts
when there is no supporting  data for them.  How about it.  How about you quit twisting things around to avoid
supporting your remarks rather than trying to dump it on others.  How about for once you stand up and provide the proof!
We are all waiting for this wonderful information that you are privy to that supports your claims!


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JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Usual Cissy Wah-Wah twist around. I'm not the one that needs to prove anything...you are the one stating the illegalities
and making claims...I'm just looking for you to support your falsehoods and personal feelings that you use as facts
when there is no supporting  data for them.  How about it.  How about you quit twisting things around to avoid
supporting your remarks rather than trying to dump it on others.  How about for once you stand up and provide the proof!
We are all waiting for this wonderful information that you are privy to that supports your claims!


I did support it.  There was an execution of an American without due process.  What more evidence do you need?  Find me the court proceeding and the probable cause justifying the execution.  I've given you my evidence - it the lack there of that makes it illegal.


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I did support it.  There was an execution of an American without due process.  What more evidence do you need?  Find me the court proceeding and the probable cause justifying the execution.  I've given you my evidence - it the lack there of that makes it illegal.


You gave your rendition of what YOU feel occurred!  Still smoke and not fact to deny
the legality of what occurred! Where's your privy info???? Show us how you have facts to support
the US acted illegally and that it was an act without justification!


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He was an American citizen.  I could give two shits about Awlaki, that could just as well have been you(who I also could give two shits about) and your son droned to death extra judicially without being charged or given due process. I would have even defended YOUR rights as a US citizen.  Not because I like you, but there is a process before you take life and property.  You on the other hand, if an American has a funny name and is legally visiting another country, and if the president thinks he needs to be killed in a land 10,000 away because he is an immediate threat to security, the president can count on your blind support, no evidence necessary.  That's why you "served" right?  To protect "our freedom"?


LOL @ I didn't like Awlaki "because he had a funny name"!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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LOL @ I didn't like Awlaki "because he had a funny name"!  


Why don't you like him?  And please provide legal evidence for your reasoning, not news stories with one sided information provided by the WH.


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It’s time we viewed Cissy Wah-Wah for what he really is: a hater who enriches
himself by ignoring facts. Everything posted is a smokescreen.



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Why don't you like him?  And please provide legal evidence for your reasoning, not news stories with one sided information provided by the WH.


Legal evidence??? And I have to come up with this "LEGAL EVIDENCE" but I can't use a news story or
the White House.
So who does that leave for me to obtain Cicero's LEGAL EVIDENCE???

I'll call my lawyer today and see what he can do for yo Cissy!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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