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Box A Rox
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Watch out!  Defending the rights of due process for all Americans makes you a "terrorist" sympathizer.  Al Awlaki is your BFFL now.  If you don't support presidential kill lists, you are unAmerican.


If you support Terrorists who target American citizens, you are a "Terrorist Sympathizer"!
IMO, If you support terrorists like Al Awiaki, you are unAmerican.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Lol.  Yeah, the USG Killed 500k Iraqi's with sanctions by restricting medicine for preventable diseases under Clinton, and then killed and displaced tens of thousands more, and poisoned generations of god knows how many with depleted uranium under GWB.  Saddam was cutting in on the USG's monopoly on killing.

Yup, I'm sure Iraqi's hold the same opinion of arrogant Americans that plunged them into all out war.  Who wouldn't be grateful to a foreign government that plunged their nation into war against their will.

American exceptionalism is knowing what's best for ever person on earth.



If you hate America so much - leave -- no one will miss you.


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If you support Terrorists who target American citizens, you are a "Terrorist Sympathizer"!
IMO, If you support terrorists like Al Awiaki, you are unAmerican.


I don't support Al Awlaki.  All I know is he was on a capture or kill list for 18 months without a grand jury indictment and never charged with terrorism.  But, somehow you were able to get your hands on the secret panel evidence that determined he was at terrorist.  You should post the evidence, then I may join you in trampling the 5th amendment.


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If you hate America so much - leave -- no one will miss you.


Not supporting the death of iraqi's at the hands of the government is hating America?  You see, the government isn't America, it's a government.  I have a lot of friends and family that I love and enjoy, I'm not going to let the government's actions define the American people.  Congress has a 9% favorable rating, and 60% of Americans distrust the Federal government.  I'm not alone in separating government from society.


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Not supporting the death of iraqi's at the hands of the government is hating America?  You see, the government isn't America, it's a government.  I have a lot of friends and family that I love and enjoy, I'm not going to let the government's actions define the American people.  Congress has a 9% favorable rating, and 60% of Americans distrust the Federal government.  I'm not alone in separating government from society.


You blame America for the death of Iraqis but give a dictator like Saddam Hussein a free pass.  It is obvious that you hate America and would prefer to live in a totalitarian dictatorship.


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You blame America for the death of Iraqis but give a dictator like Saddam Hussein a free pass.  It is obvious that you hate America and would prefer to live in a totalitarian dictatorship.


I blame The US government for the Iraqis killed or displaced caused by the invasion.  I don't blame America.

I assume you would be fine with a foreign government like China bringing total war to America because they feel they need to free Americans from the surveillance state monitoring their electronic communications like the East German Stasi, and the fact the US government incarcerates their people at a higher rate than any nation on earth.  

Oh, and while they "free Americans", they will make sure Chinese businesses sign contracts with the new government they prop up, to extract American natural resources.


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I blame The US government for the Iraqis killed or displaced caused by the invasion.  I don't blame America.

I assume you would be fine with a foreign government like China bringing total war to America because they feel they need to free Americans from the surveillance state monitoring their electronic communications like the East German Stasi, and the fact the US government incarcerates their people at a higher rate than any nation on earth.  

Oh, and while they "free Americans", they will make sure Chinese businesses sign contracts with the new government they prop up, to extract American natural resources.



The PRC does the same or worse to its people.




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The PRC does the same or worse to its people.




I'm sure in the eyes of the PRC, their system of government is "exceptional".  After all, they are on their way to being the worlds #1 economic superpower.


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I'm sure in the eyes of the PRC, their system of government is "exceptional".  After all, they are on their way to being the worlds #1 economic superpower.


Some think yes -- others think no.  I think China will undergo a major civil war/revolution within the next 25 years which will pretty much end any hopes of being the #1 economic superpower in the this century.


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Since it seems that the topic of the thread has morphed into some discussion of China, I wanted to provide a reminder:


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Since it seems that the topic of the thread has morphed into some discussion of China, I wanted to provide a reminder:


What does Memorial Day have to do with tanks and aircraft carriers?  Show the tomb stones and the VA clinics withholding medical care so they can die.


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What does Memorial Day have to do with tanks and aircraft carriers?  Show the tomb stones and the VA clinics withholding medical care so they can die.


You're the one making the reference to Memorial Day...not in the picture I posted, not in my words, not in my postings....
Why are you trying to distort what was presented?  Oh yah...because it's your HATER AGENDA!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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You're the one making the reference to Memorial Day...not in the picture I posted, not in my words, not in my postings....
Why are you trying to distort what was presented?  Oh yah...because it's your HATER AGENDA!


You got me...it's just a war propaganda poster...sorry for the confusion.  I stand corrected.


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Can you imagine Cicero at Valley Forge?  Or in the lines at the battle of Saratoga?  Or at
Gettysburg?  
I wonder what Cicero would be talking about if he were in a landing craft going ashore on Omaha Beach
in June of 44.
No doubt he'd be spouting his anti military, anti government rhetoric... I wonder how long that would last?


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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You got me...it's just a war propaganda poster...sorry for the confusion.  I stand corrected.


Oh, now a war propaganda poster...really???? You just can't give it up...your hatred consumes your pea brain.
Tell us the truth...either
(a) someone in a uniform whooped your a$$ bad so you hate everyone
(b) you were rejected from military, police force, firefighters, etc., so you hate all
(c) you're just stupid
(d) all the above

I vote for (d)

Go back and continue your debate with moRON...it's the funniest stuff I've
read in a long time.  The great debate between moRON and the IDIOT (aka DUMB and DUMBER)!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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