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The nayboobs hate FACTS.  They prefer to peddle their terroristic, community-bashing package of sh*t/lies.

These are the facts:
Niskayuna's building department was told the bookstore will be closing and the 24,000-square-foot store divided into three retail spaces, said Kathy Matern, town planner.
The new tenants were not identified by the owner of the mall, DDR Corp. in Beachwood, Ohio.

Barnes & Noble closes the book on Fifth Ave. store (in NYC). The bookseller notified 56 employees Tuesday of layoffs this month as a change in customers' habits doomed a location that catered to college students.

Last summer, Barnes & Noble announced it would close 15 to 20 stores this year as it struggles to remain relevant at time when many readers are buying electronic books.

For the six-month period ending Oct. 26, Barnes & Noble suffered a net loss of $74 million, roughly double the year-earlier figure. Revenues dropped more than 8% to $3.06 billion for the period.

This store's closing has NOTHING to do with Metroplex or any of our political leaders.  It has EVERYTHING to do with changing customer habits that have deeply impacted the company's profitability.

The store front is NOT going to remain empty.  The mall owner already has plans to divide the space into 3 tenant spaces and, apparently, has prospective, as-yet-unnamed tenants already lined up.

While it will be sad to see this store close, it is NOT the end of the world.  Business trends change. That is the way the world works.
This has happened before.  Schenectady was once the major producer of corn brooms.  That industry faded out of existence.  New industries arose to fill the void.  


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These are the facts:
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Whoo whoo!   DV actually knows how to look for information and the and then copy and paste it.


Hey, DV, how about you go and look for information to support your statements that city of Schenectady taxes are lower today under the dems than they were ten year ago (under reps).


Since you can find things to copy and paste, how about you find something to copy and paste that supports your statements that Schenectady county taxes are lower than they were 50 years ago.


Can you do that?



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The nayboobs hate FACTS.  They prefer to peddle their terroristic, community-bashing package of sh*t/lies.

These are the facts:
Niskayuna's building department was told the bookstore will be closing and the 24,000-square-foot store divided into three retail spaces, said Kathy Matern, town planner.
The new tenants were not identified by the owner of the mall, DDR Corp. in Beachwood, Ohio.

Barnes & Noble closes the book on Fifth Ave. store (in NYC). The bookseller notified 56 employees Tuesday of layoffs this month as a change in customers' habits doomed a location that catered to college students.

Last summer, Barnes & Noble announced it would close 15 to 20 stores this year as it struggles to remain relevant at time when many readers are buying electronic books.

For the six-month period ending Oct. 26, Barnes & Noble suffered a net loss of $74 million, roughly double the year-earlier figure. Revenues dropped more than 8% to $3.06 billion for the period.

This store's closing has NOTHING to do with Metroplex or any of our political leaders.  It has EVERYTHING to do with changing customer habits that have deeply impacted the company's profitability.

The store front is NOT going to remain empty.  The mall owner already has plans to divide the space into 3 tenant spaces and, apparently, has prospective, as-yet-unnamed tenants already lined up.

While it will be sad to see this store close, it is NOT the end of the world.  Business trends change. That is the way the world works.
This has happened before.  Schenectady was once the major producer of corn brooms.  That industry faded out of existence.  New industries arose to fill the void.  


I think that everyone knows that most 'brick and mortar' businesses will someday be a thing of the past. And I too don't believe this closing is not the result of METROPLEX/GILLEN.

I do however, take note that METROPLEX/GILLEN and the government leadership, has all but abolished any respectful residential living in the city. Between METROPLEX/GILLEN giving the farm away to the rich friends and family club....tax free.....and the government leadership raising taxes to an embarrassing all time high in the state and plummeting home values...no one can survive! Couple this with the fact that taxes are flying out of the roof while services decline, is quite enough to make any intelligent minded person to bit@h.

In all due respect........it really doesn't take a a rocket scientist to see the corruption.


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I think that everyone knows that most 'brick and mortar' businesses will someday be a thing of the past. And I too don't believe this closing is not the result of METROPLEX/GILLEN.

I do however, take note that METROPLEX/GILLEN and the government leadership, has all but abolished any respectful residential living in the city. Between METROPLEX/GILLEN giving the farm away to the rich friends and family club....tax free.....and the government leadership raising taxes to an embarrassing all time high in the state and plummeting home values...no one can survive! Couple this with the fact that taxes are flying out of the roof while services decline, is quite enough to make any intelligent minded person to bit@h.

In all due respect........it really doesn't take a a rocket scientist to see the corruption.


Ray Gillen and the County Economic Development team have worked very hard to turn the City-County of Schenectady around.  They inherited a HUGE mess from the Hugh & Bob Farley/Al Jurzynski Republicans who RAMMED our community deep into the ground.  
You and your nayboob friends may FANTASIZE that you  are  rocket scientists just like you FANTASIZE that others are the cause of your woes -- but you certainly are quite far from reality.  


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Ray Gillen and the County Economic Development team have worked very hard to turn the City-County of Schenectady around.  They inherited a HUGE mess from the Hugh & Bob Farley/Al Jurzynski Republicans who RAMMED our community deep into the ground.  
You and your nayboob friends may FANTASIZE that you  are  rocket scientists just like you FANTASIZE that others are the cause of your woes -- but you certainly are quite far from reality.  


Yes they worked very hard to help their rich friends and family....obviously! If you knew your history....the reps didn't ram our community into the ground....ge leaving did. Then BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES, thought it would be advantageous to entice the folks from NYC to move upstate. Hence....in come the drug dealers and slum lords. The city is a total failure and there is enough blame to go around...be it dem or rep.

FACT....taxes are the highest in the state.....and there are less services!!! Start taxing the rich family and friends. The poor working folks are shouldering the tax burden. You really need to get out and about more in the city residential neighborhoods....where the real folks work.....in all due respect of course.


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olooks like a lot of big Box stores are closing and will not repopen.....next will be the banks....then schools.....

this has already happened.....and taxes go up and fees are added to pick up brush , etc.,

there is a way to stop it......impeach....vote them out.....or whatever.....they don't respect anyone with values or morals.....or doing things in an honest way.

and yet the people of this Town let the people sitting as leaders ...talk out both sides of their mouths PLUS...vulgar name calling in public..

now is that the way we want this Town remembered...???..many of us will be long gone....and so will generations to come...in one area alone 30 homes

for sale...

the ones left will be the friends and familia....looking for a handout......no business....no pizza and no booze.....hope they all have a nice life.
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Yes they worked very hard to help their rich friends and family....obviously! If you knew your history....the reps didn't ram our community into the ground....ge leaving did. Then BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES, thought it would be advantageous to entice the folks from NYC to move upstate. Hence....in come the drug dealers and slum lords. The city is a total failure and there is enough blame to go around...be it dem or rep.

FACT....taxes are the highest in the state.....and there are less services!!! Start taxing the rich family and friends. The poor working folks are shouldering the tax burden. You really need to get out and about more in the city residential neighborhoods....where the real folks work.....in all due respect of course.


There have been drug dealers and slumlords in Schenectady for at least 50 years.  It isn't a recent phenomenon.
And the FACT is that if we did NOT have the economic development projects (undertaken by Metroplex in the past 10 years) than the City-County of Schenectady would be in WORSE shape.  The neighborhoods AND Downtown would be in WORSE shape.  
You really need to get a grip on reality. NO CITY in the United States has revitalized itself without BOTH public and private investment --- and that includes Saratoga Springs.   40-50  years ago, Saratoga Springs was a backwater, sh*t hole and both tracks were on the verge of closing.   Huge amounts of PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS were pumped in -- to build SPAC, prop up both the Flat Track and the Harness Track and to revitalize portions of the downtown.   And if you want to see corruption -- look at all the palms that got greased that had a hand in it.  
You and your ilk are nothing but a bunch of whiners and complainers -- insufferable boors.  


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There have been drug dealers and slumlords in Schenectady for at least 50 years.  It isn't a recent phenomenon.
And the FACT is that if we did NOT have the economic development projects (undertaken by Metroplex in the past 10 years) than the City-County of Schenectady would be in WORSE shape.  The neighborhoods AND Downtown would be in WORSE shape.  
You really need to get a grip on reality. NO CITY in the United States has revitalized itself without BOTH public and private investment --- and that includes Saratoga Springs.   40-50  years ago, Saratoga Springs was a backwater, sh*t hole and both tracks were on the verge of closing.   Huge amounts of PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS were pumped in -- to build SPAC, prop up both the Flat Track and the Harness Track and to revitalize portions of the downtown.   And if you want to see corruption -- look at all the palms that got greased that had a hand in it.  
You and your ilk are nothing but a bunch of whiners and complainers -- insufferable boors.  


First............back in the day.........it wasn't drug dealers.....it was LOCAL BOOKIES!!! A business practice that everyone turned a blind eye to.
Second.........Don't compare Saratoga to the sh!thole Schenectady!!! You are comparing apples to oranges! How much are taxes in Saratoga? How much are taxes in Schenectady? Saratoga has a 7% sales tax....what is Schenetady's? What is the average home value in Saratoga? What is it in Schenectady? Compare the crime rate? Compare the school systems.
..........and Saratoga NEVER had GE, so they had NOTHING to lose! They had an already existing race track!

Again.........apples and oranges.

Schenectady's twin is Troy.....compare them...k?


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First............back in the day.........it wasn't drug dealers.....it was LOCAL BOOKIES!!! A business practice that everyone turned a blind eye to.
Second.........Don't compare Saratoga to the sh!thole Schenectady!!! You are comparing apples to oranges! How much are taxes in Saratoga? How much are taxes in Schenectady? Saratoga has a 7% sales tax....what is Schenetady's? What is the average home value in Saratoga? What is it in Schenectady? Compare the crime rate? Compare the school systems.
..........and Saratoga NEVER had GE, so they had NOTHING to lose! They had an already existing race track!

Again.........apples and oranges.

Schenectady's twin is Troy.....compare them...k?


Wow. You really are clueless.  
There were drug dealers AND bookies in Schenectady 50 years.
And as for Saratoga Springs, it would still be a backwater, shithole if it hadn't been for the HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of State tax dollar poured into.   SPAC -- built and subsidized by state tax dollars for many years because it was not making enough money to pay its bills.  The flat track was ready to fold back in the 1960's and 1970's -- and the state came in and bailed it out ...made a lot of politically connected people (mostly Republican) rich in the process.  The harness track was going to close a number of times, too -- and in comes both state tax dollars and then an exclusive privilege to operate slot machines is given.  More politically connected (mostly Republicans) got their pockets filled in the process.  Tax breaks and state funding for many of the building projects in Saratoga Springs.

So smarten up BUD and get the FACTS ... K?


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Yes they worked very hard to help their rich friends and family....obviously! If you knew your history....the reps didn't ram our community into the ground....ge leaving did. Then BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES, thought it would be advantageous to entice the folks from NYC to move upstate. Hence....in come the drug dealers and slum lords. The city is a total failure and there is enough blame to go around...be it dem or rep.

FACT....taxes are the highest in the state.....and there are less services!!! Start taxing the rich family and friends. The poor working folks are shouldering the tax burden. You really need to get out and about more in the city residential neighborhoods....where the real folks work.....in all due respect of course.



Of course you have to realize you are responding to someone who knows NOTHING whatsoever about property taxes, property values, someone doesn't have the remotest clue what a tax bill looks like, someone who avoids the city like the plague and thus doesn't have the remotest clue what it's like to be a homeowner living in the midst of increased blight, has not money to repair their own homes because the plex and the dems are taking all the homeonwers money to give to their multimillionaire political cronies and don't give a sh*t about the people in the city who pay the bills.

Of course, you know you're responding to someone who would not even remotely dream about residing in the community that he cheers for, you know he won't even remotely consider spending even ONE night living ANYWHERE IN the city.





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Of course you have to realize you are responding to someone who knows NOTHING whatsoever about property taxes, property values, someone doesn't have the remotest clue what a tax bill looks like, someone who avoids the city like the plague and thus doesn't have the remotest clue what it's like to be a homeowner living in the midst of increased blight, has not money to repair their own homes because the plex and the dems are taking all the homeonwers money to give to their multimillionaire political cronies and don't give a sh*t about the people in the city who pay the bills.

Of course, you know you're responding to someone who would not even remotely dream about residing in the community that he cheers for, you know he won't even remotely consider spending even ONE night living ANYWHERE IN the city.



YUP...sadly I do know.
So where is the MILLIONS FROM THE STATE in Schenectady? One would be led to believe that the state won't touch Schenectady with a ten foot pole. When the state compares Schenectady to another city...it is ALWAY the cities that are in POOR and in decline with no jobs!!! The state also knows that the leadership in Schenectady is all but inept. Sure the state will throw crumbs Schenectady's way....but that's only cause they got a political 'D' after their name.


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First............back in the day........
..........and Saratoga NEVER had GE, so they had NOTHING to lose! They had an already existing race track!



Schenectady also had a racetrack where Von Roll is currently located on Campbell Rd.

It was taken by GE and they used it along with the old Campbell Plastics building to reverse engineer
German V-2 rockets and developed a radar guidance system that was later transferred and incorporated
into our ICBM guidance systems. I have personally seen the missile testing chamber that was once
housed in the rear of Campbell Plastics.



Hermes Guidance System: A snippet by George Kirpatrick: Right after WWII the U.S. Army gave GE a large
contract, called Project Hermes, for a variety of tasks in the then new field of rocketry. The initial headquarters
for the Hermes Project was in one of the old Edison Buildings (#10 ?) on the Works Avenue in Schenectady.
The first task for several engineers was to travel to Germany and interview the German Rocket Scientists at
Penemunde and also to locate and return to the U.S.A. large quantities of documents. A further task in
Germany was to locate the components for 100 of the largest of the German rockets, the V-2, and arrange
for the shipment to White Sands, New Mexico. A more permanent headquarters for the Hermes Project was
called The Campbell Avenue Racetrack (yes, there was a racetrack) and it was located off Campbell Avenue,
on a hill and just back of the Schenectady Works. There were two buildings and in one, Dr. Richard W. Porter,
project director, had his office along with other project leaders and mechanical and aerodynamic designers.
The other building was the electrical/electronic design area and where experiments on the 100 V-2 rockets
fired at White Sands, NM were coordinated. Various GE components provided the specialists for each design
area with the project direction under the Aeronautics and Ordnance Dept from building 28, heat transfer
problems were handled by the General Engineering Laboratory, Drs. Bundy and Strong from the research
lab consulted on rocket motors (and later worked on the diamond project) and electronics was handled by
the then new (1947) Electronics Laboratory out of the new plant at Syracuse. I was hired (by phone) by
George Metcalf as he had moved to Syracuse from Schenectady and I was still working in Schenectady.
This was 1947. I was to interview Metcalf on my next trip to Syracuse but by the time I had a trip to
Syracuse, George had moved from the E Lab over to Bldg. 7 and he became (the first ?) head of CAGE
(government and commercial equipment dept.) This preceded HMED. The first electronic project was the
development of a telemetry system for use with the firing of the 100 V-2 rockets at White Sands. This
highly successful project was headed by Dr. Lewis J. Neelands, in the Racetrack building in Schenectady.
I was hired to work on a radar guidance system for a new rocket, designated the Hermes A-1 and much
of this work was carried out at the Racetrack building but eventually transferred to Syracuse. Flight tests
of the A-1 guidance were performed from the Schenectady County Airport in a C-45 aircraft and rocket
motor (and complete static firings) was done at the Malta Test site near Saratoga NY. Various Electronics
Lab. personnel worked on the radar guidance for the A-1 after the transfer to Syracuse and names which
come to mind include Ed Ernst, Don Arsem, Stan Roelofs, Bob Thor and I'm sure there were more. The
A-1 guidance system was tested extensively at White Sands, NM and formed the basis for the radar
guidance used on the Corporal Missile System, widely deployed in Europe. A more sophisticated guidance
system was developed for the Hermes A-3 rocket, based upon a highly accurate microwave interferometer.
The technical work on the A-3 guidance was headed by Dr. Lewis J. Neelands and resulted in a successful
system with the know-how later transferred to another ICBM guidance system known as the 8014 project
and also to the highly accurate Mistram instrumentation equipment.



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YUP...sadly I do know.
So where is the MILLIONS FROM THE STATE in Schenectady?  The state also knows that the leadership in Schenectady is all but inept. Sure the state will throw crumbs Schenectady's way....but that's only cause they got a political 'D' after their name.


Yeah - politicians like Hugh Farley and Bob Farley and Al Jurzynski were/are grossly inept at getting state money to help Schenectady.  
Hugh Farley did manage to get millions to build a middle school on Route 9 in Saratoga and millions for his fat-cat horse race loving friends  -- many of whom also benefited from political favor when he chaired the banking committee in the State Senate .. and then they rewarded him with 10's of thousands of dollars in campaign cash.  The Farleys never did anything for Schenectady.


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the bookies back in the day had little corner stores.....today they are a different ethnicity.....

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