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CICERO
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Quoted from Box A Rox


SO as much as Cicero whines, and cries about his Taxes... it isn't Cicero who pays for most of his
Health Care Bill... It's YOU AND I, THE TAXPAYER!


Ummmm....I do pay taxes...What about those that do not pay taxes?  I think you just endorsed my prior post.  Thank you!


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Ummmm....I do pay taxes...What about those that do not pay taxes?  I think you just endorsed my prior post.  Thank you!


Those who do not pay taxes... and most Americans do pay taxes, are partially or entirely subsidized  by
their government.... Just like Cicero.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Free to die from lack of health care.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Trump Promises ‘Terrific’ Health Care


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Donald Trump told CNN that if elected president he would replace Obamacare with “something terrific.”
When pressed for details, Trump explained that the “terrific” would be handled by private companies
competing in the private market.


What Trump, and all the Republican candidates are saying is that they will repeal ObamaCare
and
Replace it with what we had before ObamaCare.  NOTHING!


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Obamacare Led to Increased Competition


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USA Today:
“Competition among insurers offering plans on the federal health care exchange rose between
last year and this year, tamping down growth in premiums, says a federal report released Thursday.”

“The report says 86% of people eligible for qualified health plans on HealthCare.gov had access to
at least three insurers this year, up from 70% in 2014. Nearly 60% of U.S. counties saw a net gain
of at least one insurer, 8% saw a loss, and 33% saw their numbers unchanged, the report says.”

“Competition affected how much people paid for their plans, the report says, with premium growth
between 2014 and 2015 for benchmark (second-lowest cost) silver plans 8.4 percentage points
lower in counties that gained insurers than in other counties. In fact, a net gain of one insurer was
associated with a 2.8 percentage point drop in the rate of benchmark premium growth.”

“The average growth rate in the benchmark premium was 2%, the report says.”


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Obama-care is such a good deal that now after I've retired I have to fight to keep my health-care policy which I was promised for life when I retired. The company wants to pass the cost of their provided health-care down to the employees and retirees because they say it costs too much now due to the Obama-care mandates.
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Obama-care is such a good deal that now after I've retired I have to fight to keep my health-care policy which I was promised for life when I retired. The company wants to pass the cost of their provided health-care down to the employees and retirees because they say it costs too much now due to the Obama-care mandates.


Of course that is what your company will say...
And you believe it???

US corporations have been cutting health care since the GWB days... and it will continue.

However, if you are looking for a better deal:


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Remember the tax on what Obama-care called the luxury health-care plans, a small tax of 40% on them. Who's going to pay that tax the company?
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More Proof That ObamaCare Is Working... GOP Panics!

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“The number of people without health insurance continues to decline and has dropped by 15.8 million, or one-third,
since 2013,” the New York Times reports.

“The decline occurred as major provisions of the Affordable Care Act took effect. The law expanded coverage through
Medicaid and through subsidies for private insurance, starting in 2014. In the first three months of this year, the
National Center for Health Statistics said, 29 million people were uninsured. That was seven million fewer than
the average for 2014, after a reduction of 8.8 million from 2013 to 2014.”

“The data may bolster Democrats’ claims that the law is working as they intended, but it is unlikely to prompt
Republicans to let up on criticism of the law, which was passed without any Republican votes.”


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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you still don't get it....having the mandated health insurance doesn't mean you can afford it(changing spending habits) nor does it
mean you get the same care standard just because you do....

I will tell you that the standard is on the inside of the system and the public is just as ignorant about that as it is ignorant about the
federal reserve, tax code, banking laws etc etc.......

but as long as we use hollow terms like 'decreasing uninsured' everyone feels so fu(king happy.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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“It is tempting to treat the lack of specifics in the Republican health-care plans as a problem
of details to be filled it. But it is not a side problem. It is the entire problem.
They will not finance real insurance for the people who have gotten it under Obamacare, nor will
they face up to the actual costs they’re willing to impose on people.
The party is doctrinally opposed to every available method to make insurance available to people
who can’t afford it.
They have spent six years promising to come up with an alternative plan, and they haven’t done it,
because they can’t.”


NY Mag
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/walker-rubio-obamacare-replacement-plans.html


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Obamacare Sign-ups Exceed Projections to Reach 17.6 Million

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“A total of 17.6 million people have gained coverage under ObamaCare, according to a revised
government estimate released Tuesday. The newest figure, which is based on national survey data,
shows that 1.2 million more people had signed up for healthcare over the last five years than previously
thought.”


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