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Schenectady still weighing options for property owners who can't fix water lines

Wednesday, April 9, 2014


By Kathleen Moore (Contact)
Gazette Reporter  

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SCHENECTADY — Sewer and water workers in nearby Niskayuna are shaking their heads at Schenectady’s various proposals for dealing with leaking water lines running to and from houses.

“It doesn’t have to be a big deal,” said Richard Pollack, Niskayuna’s superintendent of water, sewer and engineering. He said his department can’t understand why Schenectady is even entertaining complex solutions when there’s a simple fix.

The problem is that a few property owners can’t afford to fix their leaking water or sewer laterals each year. In Schenectady, city workers had to evict residents from seven properties last year for failure to fix these problems.

In each case, the owners said they couldn’t afford the $4,000 or more that the repair would cost, Commissioner of General Services Carl Olsen said.

That situation arises in Niskayuna too. But there, town workers make the repair if the owners can’t afford it, Pollack said.

“We send the homeowner a bill. If they don’t pay it in a certain time, it goes on their tax bill,” he said.

He wondered why Schenectady wouldn’t consider the same solution.

Olsen said the city’s code doesn’t allow city workers to do that.

“Right now, we don’t have that liberty,” he said, adding that he wasn’t sure putting the cost on the tax bill would work. “I will caution you, a large number of those individuals may not pay that bill,” he said.

Olsen has proposed three different options, all of which would involve the city or its contractors fixing every lateral that breaks.

The proposals come with a variety of costs. Olsen proposed a $48 annual fee for every property owner in the city, a flat fee for service or a fee for materials and the permit. The fees, and the repairs, would apply only to houses with three units or fewer.

Council members have said they are flatly opposed to a citywide fee, particularly because some residents have recently paid to replace their own laterals.

“We raised heck when we instituted the garbage fee,” said Councilman Ed Kosuir. “I can’t imagine what this would do.”

Councilman Vince Riggi added that the garbage fee has doubled since 2004.

“Is that $48 going to be forever? I don’t see how it could be,” he said, before asking rhetorically whether the city would start repairing roofs next. “Unfortunately, what we have is we have people in homes who can’t really afford to be homeowners.”

But Councilwoman Leesa Perazzo said she wanted to find some solution for those who couldn’t afford to fix their laterals.

“As a single homeowner working for a nonprofit, the thought of my lateral going scares the heck out of me,” she said. “I would have to take out a loan.”

She said she worried about those who did not have the financial wherewithal to get a loan.

Olsen said the worst part of his job was kicking out homeowners because they couldn’t afford the repair.

“Seven is seven too many,” he said of last year’s evictions.

He said a $48 fee was reasonable.

“It’s a great deal. It’s a lot more affordable to pay $50 a year than to come up with that kind of cash overnight,” he said.

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2014/apr/09/0409laterals/
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This Lateral fee will pass with flying colors from the Puppet council. Vince was on point with the Roof fee!
I can see more property owners adding their name to the Foreclosure list willingly no need to send letters boys!
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But Councilwoman Leesa Perazzo said she wanted to find some solution for those who couldn’t afford to fix their laterals.

“As a single homeowner working for a nonprofit, the thought of my lateral going scares the heck out of me,” she said. “I would have to take out a loan.”




The ACTUAL, UNAVOIDABLE, INCONTROVERTIBLE TRUTH is that she could well afford to pay for hers because her salary IS SUBSIDIZED by the financially struggling homeowners in the city!!!

The ACTUAL, UNAVOIDABLE, INCONTROVERTIBLE TRUTH is that the vast majority of homeowners in the city would NOT be able to get approved for a loan because they are already deep in debt from loans they have to take out to do repairs to their homes because the mayor and his dems have emptied out homeowners' savings by making the homeowners pay the taxes of the multimillionaire owners downtown.





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speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Olsen proposed a $48 annual fee for every property owner in the city, a flat fee for service or a fee for materials and the permit.




Every homeowner has to subsidize everyone else's costs.   SOCIALISM  

The ACTUAL, UNAVOIDABLE, INCONTROVERTIBLE TRUTH is that homeowners can't afford to fix their own because they have no money left after paying the taxes of the multimillionaire political cronies of the city/county/plex dems

If homeowners did not have to pay downtown's taxes, they'd have money.

Many many people couldn't even get a second mortgage because they are underwater on their mortgages now because of the MASSIVE FALLING property values in the city.


So, in return for all the homeowners money spent on downtown, the return for the homeowners potentially will be yet another fee on top of the em trash fee which has DOUBLED under the dems.


Remember the ACTUAL, UNAVOIDABLE, INCONTROVERTIBLE TRUTH is that when Jurzynski was mayor and he proposed a trash fee, the dems on the council UNANIMOUSLY said NO to any such fee!!!!!!!!!!!

So dem Stratton who said NO to the trash fee when Al was mayor becomes mayor and proposes the SAME trash fee as Al did, Stratton says "it will be the the saving grace of the city.  And his dems UNANIMOUSLY said YES to a trash fee.

In the years since, the dems have DOUBLED the trash fee, had proposed a "curb fee," considered a "public safety fee" (somehow I think there is a variation of that, but can't remember), and now are proposing YET ANOTHER FEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fees on top of paying the highest taxes around in order to cover the costs of the taxes of the downtown multimillionaire political cronies of these dems!!!!

The above is all the ACTUAL, UNAVOIDABLE, INCONTROVERTIBLE TRUTH about the city.  Property values have just taken another tumble.






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Olsen said the worst part of his job was kicking out homeowners because they couldn’t afford the repair.

“Seven is seven too many,” he said of last year’s evictions.



Can't afford the repair because the homeowners are paying the taxes of the downtown multimillionaire political cronies of the dems.



Mayor McCarthy and his team are doing a great job in the city.  Keep up the good work.
  


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They can enforce as many fees they want...........if the folks ain't got the money..........they ain't got the money!!! Plain and simple.

So Schenectady are the ones backed into a corner.....what'll they do.....kick the folks out and take possession?  


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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