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Yes. I have heard of it.  Those health issues predated the efforts to clean it up.  And yes, the clean up continues.  
That does not refute the FACT that MANY brownfield sites have been successfully cleaned up and redeveloped ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
The harbor proposal with casino, hotel, retail/offices, condos and a movie studio is still a very good concept.   It certainly should be thoroughly reviewed - SEQR, etc.  Then after all the due diligence is done, it will either be approved or not approved.  Personally, I am hoping that everything works out so that it is approved and completed.  It has the potential to  have a HUGE positive impact on the City-County of Schenectady.



what does successful mean? only 3 people with cancer or affects from dirty ground, instead of 20 people....

that's called brownfield regulation, kinda like gun regulation and the number of bullets allowed in a clip........


http://books.google.com/books?.....20fields&f=false


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what does successful mean? only 3 people with cancer or affects from dirty ground, instead of 20 people....

that's called brownfield regulation, kinda like gun regulation and the number of bullets allowed in a clip........


http://books.google.com/books?.....20fields&f=false


You will have to actually cite the ACTUAL cases where a brownfield cleanup (that was completed, certified as safe, then redeveloped and actually was proven to NOT be safe) failed to have any credibility in this argument.   Hundreds - if not thousands of brownfields have been been successfully cleaned-up and redeveloped with NO harmful consequences.

You and your ilk would prefer that the ALCO site remain vacant and contaminated -- which would actually be a greater danger to the public.  I guess that you didn't think your fallacious argument through before you excreted it.


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You will have to actually cite the ACTUAL .




DV, how about YOU cite the ACTUAL EVIDENCE that taxes 10 years ago in your claim that taxes were higher 10 years ago?????

DV, how about YOU cite the ACTUAL EVIDENCE that county taxes were higher 50 years ago than now??????


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a harbor in the river - please review the damage done by Lee and Irene to the locks along the Mohawk

and assure me that my money wont be wasted on such damage and the developers will put up a cash bond to repair such damage at 2 times the projects value

mother nature will kick your a** every time
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If ignorance is bliss then the nayboobs must be in the highest state of euphoria.


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Do you guys think they will add a fort to the "Galesi Harbor" to keep out the criminals??? LOL  


Good idea.

We can call it the "Stockade" to keep out the savages.

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it could just be schenectadys first gated community?


Except for the original Schenectady stockade.

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Raising the ground 2-4 ft downstream from downtown will result in increased backup every time the river reaches flood state.

It ain't rocket science.

You build up the walls restricting the flow, and the backup will be directly proportional./
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Is DV putting in an offer already on one of those condos?????


ROFLMAO    


Why a man needs two nannies at his age is beyond anyone's comprehension.  


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Good idea.

We can call it the "Stockade" to keep out the savages.




didn't they move out of the city?
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If ignorance is bliss then the nayboobs must be in the highest state of euphoria.


Yep,. and DV is full of ignorance!  He proves it every day when he cannot cite one teeny weeny shred of evidence of ANYTHING he says.





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didn't they move out of the city?


They never actually had Mohawk tribes living in what is now Schenectady.

Schenectady and the Great Flats were hunting grounds.

Arent Van Curler bought the entire area from the Mohawks, but the Mohawk Indians had no actual legal system or actual owner to buy the land from.

Additionally the Mohawk Indians had no actual understanding of sale and ownership of all the lands.

The Dutch (referred to by the natives as Swannekins, or salt water people) and the Wilden (as the Dutch called the natives)
had vastly different conceptions of ownership and use of land, so much so that they did not understand each other at all.

The Dutch thought their proffer of gifts in the form of sewant(beads) or manufactured goods was a trade agreement and defense alliance,  which gave them exclusive rights to farming, hunting, and fishing.

Often, the Indians did not vacate the property, or reappeared seasonally, according to their migration patterns.

They were willing to share the land with the Europeans, but the Indians did not intend to leave or give up access.

The Europeans thought otherwise.

This misunderstanding, and other differences, would later lead to violent conflict. At the same time, such differences
marked the beginnings of a multicultural society.

It was the" use of force" of the laws that were the reason for the bloodshed and violence.

The Native Americans were pushed westward, resisting and being killed for standing their ground.

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They never actually had Mohawk tribes living in what is now Schenectady.

Schenectady and the Great Flats were hunting grounds.

Arent Van Curler bought the entire area from the Mohawks, but the Mohawk Indians had no actual legal system or actual owner to buy the land from.

Additionally the Mohawk Indians had no actual understanding of sale and ownership of all the lands.

The Dutch (referred to by the natives as Swannekins, or salt water people) and the Wilden (as the Dutch called the natives)
had vastly different conceptions of ownership and use of land, so much so that they did not understand each other at all.

The Dutch thought their proffer of gifts in the form of sewant(beads) or manufactured goods was a trade agreement and defense alliance,  which gave them exclusive rights to farming, hunting, and fishing.

Often, the Indians did not vacate the property, or reappeared seasonally, according to their migration patterns.

They were willing to share the land with the Europeans, but the Indians did not intend to leave or give up access.

The Europeans thought otherwise.

This misunderstanding, and other differences, would later lead to violent conflict. At the same time, such differences
marked the beginnings of a multicultural society.

It was the" use of force" of the laws that were the reason for the bloodshed and violence.

The Native Americans were pushed westward, resisting and being killed for standing their ground.


Sounds familiar.  ARE THE TAXPAYERS THE NEW INDIANS?


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Sounds familiar.  ARE THE TAXPAYERS THE NEW INDIANS?


Just the ones that fail to pay their property taxes.

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Raising the ground 2-4 ft downstream from downtown will result in increased backup every time the river reaches flood state.

It ain't rocket science.

You build up the walls restricting the flow, and the backup will be directly proportional./
Yes.   Very true.   It's called water displacement.   Drop an icecube into a full glass of water.   Where does the water go?

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