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CICERO
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Where I live is none of your business.  Mr. Constitutional rights advocate - seems to me I have a right to live where I choose.

You sure do have the right!  I guess I have the right to point out that most Schenectady cops break the residency laws.  Pretty ironic isn't it?

BTW...are residency laws unconstitutional?

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Nice way to respond directly to the point I made.

What point were you making?  The city residents are slobs, and there aren't enough city workers to clean up after them?  


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FIRST......City garbage service should be privatized.

SECOND....>Visitor......we know cops that bought city slum properties for 'cheap'....used the address as theirs to follow the residency laws.

THIRD.....I'm sure Visitor and others DON'T live in the city because it is such a sh!thole. A sh!thole that will pay their benefits for LIFE!!!


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If their hours are brought up don't expect them to do more work they will just take longer doing their route, that is all really would happen like it or not.


Well, i guess we now know how fast they can work, they have proven it. So, after the route, it's on to the
next task. You know, like in the real world.

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Well, i guess we now know how fast they can work, they have proven it. So, after the route, it's on to the
next task. You know, like in the real world.



It seems they are overstaffed so they should either cut jobs or do as you said and have them move on to another project, maybe cleaning the parks or get them on a street sweeper.


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It seems they are overstaffed so they should either cut jobs or do as you said and have them move on to another project, maybe cleaning the parks or get them on a street sweeper.


They'll go out on workman's comp if you give them more work.  


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It seems they are overstaffed so they should either cut jobs or do as you said and have them move on to another project, maybe cleaning the parks or get them on a street sweeper.


They'll go out on workman's comp if you give them more work.  


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Maybe they could fill the damn potholes in the roads.
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You sure do have the right!  I guess I have the right to point out that most Schenectady cops break the residency laws.  Pretty ironic isn't it?

BTW...are residency laws unconstitutional?


What point were you making?  The city residents are slobs, and there aren't enough city workers to clean up after them?  


my understanding is that they get a 'bonus' for owning property in the city


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Cicero - You're ignorant of the residency laws and the contracts.  There is contractual language which makes it permissible for police officers to live outside the city. Whether you or anyone else likes it does not change that fact.
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Cicero - You're ignorant of the residency laws and the contracts.  There is contractual language which makes it permissible for police officers to live outside the city. Whether you or anyone else likes it does not change that fact.


That residents don't like it should mean that we can change that fact. You may be able to live outside of the city but to those of us who live here it feels like abandonment. People who rent don't care as much about their home as owners. Cops who don't live here don't care as much about the community as those who do. That is a fact and we feel it everyday when our police force cross over the city lines to go home to their families in safe neighborhoods.


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union contracts are just like gangstas in the neighborhoods.....

just because a group wears a uniform doesn't make them any less gangsta...they just have a different 'godfather' and are used
like pawns for politicos.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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People who rent don't care as much about their home as owners. Cops who don't live here don't care as much about the community as those who do.  



That's the Gods honest truth right there, I never blamed cops for not wanting to live here but for the people who do live here we know having a police force who does live in the city would improve things. What motivation do they have when at the end of the day they get to go back to outside the city limits, they get to leave their problems behind.


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That's the Gods honest truth right there, I never blamed cops for not wanting to live here but for the people who do live here we know having a police force who does live in the city would improve things. What motivation do they have when at the end of the day they get to go back to outside the city limits, they get to leave their problems behind.


jesus always went to the mountain after dealing with the poor in spirit and poor in body.....

I think more of the problem lies in the issue of the system making cogs for a machine run by other humans just so
we have the ability to say 'I am a contributing citizen and I'm successful and would like to give thanks to god'....

sometimes I think those folks who were not made into cogs won, and we think they are stupid.....I'm not so sure they are
wrong we just treat them as if they are and with the disrespect that comes with trying to 'one up' the next guy.

the police are strongmen used by the system to make cogs obedient......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If the police officers and their families had to live in the same conditions as the people who pay their salaries crime might get greatly reduced.
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Parent is talking out of their a**.  I was a cop and lived in and outside of the City during my career - my level of service did not fluctuate based on where I lived.

I had problems living in the City - had to arrest someone on a domestic assault charge half a block away from my house, on another occasion woman showed up at my door wanting me to come down and deal with a family problem.  some POS spit on my car and my kids were harassed form time to time because of my job.   I cannot say these were everyday happenings but these incidents and some personal factors made me think it was best for my family to move outside the city.

Towards the end o my career thought about moving back in, even after I left the agency.  The houses I really liked were in the GE Plot and really too much house for he needs of me and the mrs.   Kept looking for  a house off Central park - Londonderry but the opportunity never presented itself.  Actually, one did and I friggin blew it.  There was house over there for about $140k.  Should have jumped on it.  

Bellevue is also a decent option.  Woodlawn -meh - maybe some of the houses off Consaul Road, other than that nothing really appealed to me.
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