Investigators focus on foul play behind missing plane-sources Reuters By Niluksi Koswanage and Siva Govindasamy 2 hours ago
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Contrary to popular misconception, the entire world is not under complete radar coverage. In addition, tracking mechanisms in planes can be overridden manually and/or turned off. So is it a matter of the plane being lost as you title this thread...or would it be more appropriate to state how can we not be able to find this plane after a whole week has gone by....even at that, this is far from a simple task and could turn into an impossibility and the plane never being found.
Heart felt thoughts to the families of the people on that plane!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
OMG.....I can't even begin to imagine what those families are going thru!!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
funny ain't it................they can track our cell phones, purchasing transactions and every move we make.............but they lose a Boeing 777!!!
those families must be going thru HELL!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
funny ain't it................they can track our cell phones, purchasing transactions and every move we make.............but they lose a Boeing 777!!!
those families must be going thru HELL!!!!
Bumble....Really?
If I leave my cell at home, I cannot be tracked.
If I pay in cash, I cannot be traced.
If I'm a pilot that wants to jack a plane, I shut off everything that I know of that tracks my plane so I cannot be found.
The ONLY reason why we know that this plane kept flying for 7+ hours after contact lost, is because Rolls Royce fitted a satellite uplink in the engines. It 'pings' the satellite every hour in order to upload engine performance data.
Remember, it took 5 days to start finding wreckage and bodies from the Air France Flight 447 (with everything on and transmitting) that crashed in the Atlantic, June 2009....It took 2 years to find the 'black boxes'.
I just hope that we don't find out it's fate because some seat cushion washes up on some Indian shore 10 years from now because Mr. Disgruntled pilot 'soft landed' the plane at random point in the middle of nowhere ocean.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
If I'm a pilot that wants to jack a plane, I shut off everything that I know of that tracks my plane so I cannot be found.
The ONLY reason why we know that this plane kept flying for 7+ hours after contact lost, is because Rolls Royce fitted a satellite uplink in the engines. It 'pings' the satellite every hour in order to upload engine performance data.
Remember, it took 5 days to start finding wreckage and bodies from the Air France Flight 447 (with everything on and transmitting) that crashed in the Atlantic, June 2009....It took 2 years to find the 'black boxes'.
I just hope that we don't find out it's fate because some seat cushion washes up on some Indian shore 10 years from now because Mr. Disgruntled pilot 'soft landed' the plane at random point in the middle of nowhere ocean.
I agree Buck. guess the family's will just have to wait.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Perhaps the simple explanation is still the correct one. That's what one airline pilot thinks, anyway.
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The left turn is the key here. Zaharie Ahmad Shah was a very experienced senior captain with 18,000 hours of flight time. We old pilots were drilled to know what is the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us, and airports ahead of us. They’re always in our head. Always. If something happens, you don’t want to be thinking about what are you going to do–you already know what you are going to do. When I saw that left turn with a direct heading, I instinctively knew he was heading for an airport. He was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi, a 13,000-foot airstrip with an approach over water and no obstacles. The captain did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000-foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier toward Langkawi, which also was closer.
Take a look at this airport on Google Earth. The pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make an immediate turn to the closest, safest airport.
For me, the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense in a fire. And there most likely was an electrical fire. In the case of a fire, the first response is to pull the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one. If they pulled the busses, the plane would go silent. It probably was a serious event and the flight crew was occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, navigate, and lastly, communicate is the mantra in such situations.
What I think happened is the flight crew was overcome by smoke and the plane continued on the heading, probably on George (autopilot), until it ran out of fuel or the fire destroyed the control surfaces and it crashed. You will find it along that route–looking elsewhere is pointless.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The thing that makes me skeptical about this theory is that the left turn was preprogrammed at 1:07am, and the final communications from the co-pilot to the tower was 12 mins later at 1:19. If they had an issue (per the theory above), then why not tell the tower of the problem in the communications that took place AFTER the turn to the left?
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Some military probably shot it down and now they are trying to expand the search radius in hopes the wreckage can not be recovered, some to this day swear they saw a missile hit TWA 800 and I believe them.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Respect to the pilot and his opinion, but it doesn't make any sense.
A) If there was a fire, a Mayday would have been sent out at the first sign of smoke. It must have been a intelligent fire as well since it just took out the tracking systems
B) The Boeing 777 has a stellar record. In it's entire history (since 1995) there has only been two crashes....One in England that was because of a throttle problem (0 deaths) and the other was in San Fran because of pilot error (3 deaths)
Nope...I'm still going with Mr. Disgruntled pilot suicide.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
Some military probably shot it down and now they are trying to expand the search radius in hopes the wreckage can not be recovered, some to this day swear they saw a missile hit TWA 800 and I believe them.
LOL....Yeah and the missile that hit it let it fly for 7+hrs and disabled all the tracking equipment in the cockpit.
It's the latest in smart munitions technology.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
LOL....Yeah and the missile that hit it let it fly for 7+hrs and disabled all the tracking equipment in the cockpit.
It's the latest in smart munitions technology.
So they say it flew for 7 hours, why would a suicidal pilot punch in new coordinates and head off course instead of just diving it nose 1st into the ground. By the way tracking and communication jamming has been out of a loooooong time, check out how long our USS Liberty was under attack for without being able to use its communications. You can also look into how Russia and Iran took control over our drones and safely landed them. Also where was the copilot when all this was taking place, did that ever cross your mind, was he also on a suicidal mission.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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