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The Gettysburg of the GOP Civil War
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It truly appears that we are on the verge of a reckoning within the GOP beyond simply the targeting of a few seats. Who will win is anyone’s guess, in part, because there are so many Republican factions fighting each other. Indeed, the three day Battle of Gettysburg was easier to follow because there were only two sides, the North led by General George Meade and the Confederates headed up by General Robert E. Lee.
The Republican Party conflict, in contrast, pits three or even four groups of combatants against each other and features numerous battle lines. We have establishment Republicans led by people like Peter King. There are the Tea Party Republicans featuring Ted Cruz and his cohorts. Then there’s the libertarian wing headed by Rand Paul.
And arguably, there’s a fourth group seeking control of the GOP: the religious social conservatives such as Rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee. Although this GOP faction seems less focused on fighting with fellow Republicans and more concerned about “women’s libidos.”
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| The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The nation's governors emerged from a meeting with President Barack Obama on Monday claiming harmony, only to immediately break into an on-camera partisan feud in front of the West Wing.
Louisiana Republican Gov. Bobby Jindal lashed out first, saying if Obama were serious about growing the economy he would approve the Keystone XL pipeline project and take other executive actions.
Instead, Jindal said, Obama "seems to be waving the white flag of surrender" on the economy by focusing on raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10, up from $7.25. "The Obama economy is now the minimum wage economy. I think we can do better than that," Jindal said.
Jindal's statements were the kind that Republicans often make on television appearances or at partisan events, but don't usually come from potential presidential candidates standing yards from the Oval Office. Other governors had been instead expressing wide agreement and appreciation for the president's time. As Jindal spoke, some of his colleagues began shaking their heads, and Hawaii Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie began audibly mumbling to others around him.
Connecticut Democratic Gov. Dannel Malloy took over the microphone from Jindal and responded sharply, "Wait a second, until a few moments ago we were going down a pretty cooperative road. So let me just say that we don't all agree that moving Canadian oil through the United States is necessarily the best thing for the United States economy."
Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin, a Republican who chairs the National Governors Association and supports Keystone, earlier said she asked Obama when the administration would decide whether to allow it and he told her there would be an answer in the next couple months.
Malloy said Jindal's "white flag statement" was the most partisan of their weekend conference and that many governors support a minimum wage increase.
"What the heck was a reference to white flag when it comes to people making $404 a week?" Malloy snapped. "I mean, that's the most insane statement I've ever heard."
Jindal did not the back down.
"If that's the most partisan thing he's heard all weekend, I want to make sure he hears a more partisan statement," the Louisiana governor responded. "I think we can grow the economy more if we would delay more of these Obamacare mandates."
But Malloy was already walking away from the news conference. He called Jindal a "cheap shot artist" as he departed the White House grounds.
The public dispute came after Obama appealed to the governors for their help to advance his economic policies that stand little chance of winning passage on Capitol Hill.
"Even when there's little appetite in Congress to move on some of these priories, on the state level you guys are governed by practical considerations," Obama told the governors during remarks in the State Dining Room. "You want to do right by your people."
The president pressed in particular for states to act on their own to raise the minimum wage and expand access to early childhood education, two initiatives that have gained little traction in Congress since Obama first introduced them last year.
Several governors are seen as potential presidential candidates in 2016. Obama made light of the speculation about the race to replace him, saying he "enjoyed watching some of you with your eyes on higher office size up the drapes, and each other."
Not every governor met Monday with the president.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie left the NGA meeting early to attend his daughter's birthday and prepare for a budget address.
Facing multiple investigations in a political-retribution probe in New Jersey, the Republican leader also skipped a Monday news conference by the Republican Governors Association, which he leads.
Jindal shrugged off Christie's absence from the news conference, declaring that the RGA is "more important than just any one governor."
Asked about his own presidential ambitions, Jindal responded, "My honest answer is I don't know what I'm going to be doing in 2016."
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the old boy is rolling over dead and the b**ch is entering the arena |
| ...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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the old boy is rolling over dead and the b**ch is entering the arena
W H A T ?????? Speak English!!!! |
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the GOP is going to have a sex change...from the good ole boys |
| ...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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W H A T ?????? Speak English!!!!
See what I mean? I still wonder if Senders is a 'random sentence generator' bot or a real person. It would be easier to believe that gibberish is originating from an inanimate machine than from an actual person. If Senders is a person and is in the health care field, can you imagine trying to explain your symptoms and hearing that nonsense coming back at you? Check out this 'random sentence generator' and see if it doesn't make more sense than Senders: (just click "generate a sentence" and you'll think you are reading a Senders response)
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Pootwattle, the Virtual Academic(TM), says: The fallacy of empowerment is, in the most fundamental sense, the engendering of autonomous phenomena.
Smedley, the Virtual Critic(TM), responds: Pootwattle's wide-ranging study of the relationship between the fallacy of empowerment and the engendering of autonomous phenomena perhaps overstates the influence of Kinbote.
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the GOP is going to have a sex change...from the good ole boys
from the boys to the bitches....the GOP is about to get emasculated and change from old white guy to 'whatever'.... thank goodness growing pains hurt |
| ...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
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How conservatives lost the culture war
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This is a demoralizing moment for combatants on the conservative side of the culture war. Every few days, it seems, a judge strikes down a state statute or constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. (The latest was in Texas.) The Supreme Court (or rather, Justice Anthony Kennedy) seems poised to nationalize gay marriage at any time. And of course there's the defeat of Arizona's anti-gay bill. The desperate effort of Arizona lawmakers to pass such a law in the first place (along with a similar ill-fated attempt in Kansas) recently inspired Andrew Sullivan to remark that we're living through the "death throes of the anti-gay movement."
That may well be right. But what if we're living through something even more significant? A poll released this week by the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute reinforces what a series of surveys have shown for years: An incredibly rapid and far-reaching shift toward public acceptance of both homosexuality and gay marriage. Indeed, PRRI's new numbers are so stunning that they inspired conservative culture warrior Rod Dreher to declare in no uncertain terms that "the culture war is over. The other side won."
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The tea party doesn't exist. I don't support the tea party, because it's an illusion, a creation of both establishment parties.
The interesting stat is the Neither/No opinion went UP by 10%, while the opponents if this fictitious "tea party" stayed the same at 30%. So 70% either support this contrived party, or more importantly, don't acknowledge the illusion. |
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less legislation means more liberty...I don't there's another f'en bill that could be passed that would make us feel any better...
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The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
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~~~ Yes, President Obama is right. The 113th Congress will be the least productive in history.~~~Washington Post http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ve-ever-is-he-right/
Good job box! Your democracy is working! As a believer in democracy, the 113th congress is reflective of the will on the people. |
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Good job box! Your democracy is working! As a believer in democracy, the 113th congress is reflective of the will on the people.
Good job Cissy Wah-Wah! Your brain is dysfunctional as usual! As a believer in nothing and complainer about everything, the 113th congress is a true reflection of you. |
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Least productive congress means less spending. |
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