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Did I say it was "OBVIOUS"?  I must have missed that!  

So Cissy when is the clump of cells a HUMAN BEING????
Do you know???



Yes, you must have missed it. I figured since it was so OBVIOUS to you, you must have a full understanding of what and when a human being comes into existence.  Geez box, you spoke with such conviction when you thought it was OBVIOUS(you even wrote it in all caps you were so sure of yourself).  Now, you are asking ME when a clump of cells is a human being!  sh*t box...You were just so sure of yourself, and it was so OBVIOUS to you.  Now, you are looking toward ME for the answer the question of when human beings come into existence?

I think this may be one of the first times that a debate opponent would ask the person they are debating to clarify their argument for them....LMAO!!!!!!!!!

See Box's OBVIOUS post below.  Now he's ask ME what was once so OBVIOUS to him.LOLOLOLOL
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FINALLY, we are back to Cicero's original post... the one he's been running from since he posted it.

Human life is exactly that.  Living cells that are human.
Human life is, obviously, not a HUMAN BEING.  If I kill one blood cell, I haven't killed a HUMAN BEING,
nor if I kill a clump of human cells... say fat cells, I haven't killed a HUMAN BEING... I've killed HUMAN
CELLS.

So to Cissy's original question...
Some Human life never becomes a HUMAN BEING.  Some after much development will often become
a HUMAN BEING.  A human zygote, most of the time, does not become a HUMAN BEING... and of course
a HUMAN ZYGOTE IS NOT A HUMAN BEING. OBVIOUSLY!
Just as a fertilized chicken egg is not a chicken.  It may or may not become a chicken one day, but they
are  two distinct and different things.





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Cicero  YOU ASKED A QUESTION.  I answered it in my last post.  But you have not.  

Can I ask... In Your OPinion, is a human zygote a Human Being??? Please let us know
your position.


You answered it?  I didn't know that "I don't know" was an answer.  Especially when human beings were sooooo obvious to you just a few posts ago.LMAO


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Hey bud...What's you position n it?  Based on your posts, it's possible that haven't fully developed into a human "being".  

interesting question (I think)....COMPOSITION DUDE!!!  COMPOSITION!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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interesting question (I think)....COMPOSITION DUDE!!!  COMPOSITION!!


It's called a typo dude...Go ahead and reread the question.  I fixed it for those(you) that can't tell the difference between a typo and composition. I will wait patiently for you to answer(NOT-I never expect it)


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It's called a typo dude...Go ahead and reread the question.  I fixed it for those(you) that can't tell the difference between a typo and composition. I will wait patiently for you to answer(NOT-I never expect it)


really????

"...it's possible that haven't fully developed into a human "being". "


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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really????

"...it's possible that haven't fully developed into a human "being". "


Your right.  It's possible that YOU have fully developed into a human being.  You got me! lol

Now I should expect your post on your position?(No?)


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Your right.  It's possible that YOU have fully developed into a human being.  You got me! lol

Now I should expect your post on your position?(No?)


maybe your sentence was clear in your cloud, but it's
not even a complete anything???  That was my point, not the typo DUDE!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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So...  a zygote, days old under Ciceros (supposed) view, is a fully functioning citizen of the usa.
Is this (LMAO)Child eligible for welfare status??? If not, why not.  If this CHILD is an American
Human Being... is it eligible to file for public assistance as any other CHILD can do?  
IMO, this ZYGOTE is still just a Human Zygote.  
Cicero seems to think that this days old Human Zygote is also a CHILD.  
(Science disagrees, hence the term itself Zygote. )

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words... See Below:


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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So...  a zygote, days old under Ciceros (supposed) view, is a fully functioning citizen of the usa.
Is this (LMAO)Child eligible for welfare status??? If not, why not.  If this CHILD is an American
Human Being... is it eligible to file for public assistance as any other CHILD can do?  
IMO, this ZYGOTE is still just a Human Zygote.  
Cicero seems to think that this days old Human Zygote is also a CHILD.  
(Science disagrees, hence the term itself Zygote. )

Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words... See Below:


Once again...box does not disappoint!!!  A human being is finally defined by box!  It took a while to get it out of him, but it came out...a human being is someone who qualifies for government assistance!  Right on target!  In the world of box where it is all state all the time, defining human beings comes down to welfare benefits.

I love ya box!  You are the ole reliable forum statist.  I can alway count on you!

How would box define a human being if the state seizes to exist?  My-my...He would be lost.LMAO


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maybe your sentence was clear in your cloud, but it's
not even a complete anything???  That was my point, not the typo DUDE!


It's because I spend very little time composing posts in reply to yours.  I don't proof read them for typos or omitted words. It is pointless, regardless how well composed it is.  You never answer directly.  You are a waste of time.  But yet I feel compelled to respond to you in hopes you will evolve into a contributing member of the forum.


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[quote=19]

Once again...box does not disappoint!!!  A human being is finally defined by box!  It took a while
to get it out of him, but it came out...a human being is someone who qualifies for government
assistance! /quote]

Again Cicero is baffled and can't figure out what I have posted.  A totally CONFUSED night for Cicero.

Cissy... You make these statements then pretend that I posted them.
For the forth or fifth time... I will ask once again... WHERE DID I POST" "a human being is someone
who qualifies for government assistance!
  If that were the case, most Americans would not be
HUMAN BEINGS!  

Cicero makes these statements then runs away and hides from them.
SO... for the 4th or 5 th time Cicero... Will you please post where I've made these statements?
Don't be afraid... don't chicken out yet again.  
Cicero, if you are ever to have any credibility on this board again... back up your words and show
where I made those statements.
(Or continue to lie... makes no difference to me!)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Once again...box does not disappoint!!!  A human being is finally defined by box!  It took a while to get it out of him, but it came out...a human being is someone who qualifies for government assistance!  Right on target!  In the world of box where it is all state all the time, defining human beings comes down to welfare benefit.

I love ya box!  You are the ole reliable forum statist.  I can alway count on you!

How would box define a human being if the state seizes to exist?  My-my...He would be lost.LMAO


its- because there isnt agood  definition for human being.-

defining life is hard enough, especial if someone is brain dead but explaining how we go  from a human ORGANISM  to human being  is even tricky er and  wasnt covered n my bio 1a class- so quit pretending YOU know


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It's because I spend very little time composing posts in reply to yours.  I don't proof read them for typos or omitted words. It is pointless, regardless how well composed it is.  You never answer directly.  You are a waste of time.  But yet I feel compelled to respond to you in hopes you will evolve into a contributing member of the forum.


bull$hit excuse for writing something incomprehensible now trying to justify it...
seems like you don't even know what you were trying to say!

By the way, you still didn't answer the question I asked...sidestepped it like you always do
when asked directly! Play with words and say nothing!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
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[quote=19]

Once again...box does not disappoint!!!  A human being is finally defined by box!  It took a while
to get it out of him, but it came out...a human being is someone who qualifies for government
assistance! /quote]

Again Cicero is baffled and can't figure out what I have posted.  A totally CONFUSED night for Cicero.

Cissy... You make these statements then pretend that I posted them.
For the forth or fifth time... I will ask once again... WHERE DID I POST" "a human being is someone
who qualifies for government assistance!
  If that were the case, most Americans would not be
HUMAN BEINGS!  

Cicero makes these statements then runs away and hides from them.
SO... for the 4th or 5 th time Cicero... Will you please post where I've made these statements?
Don't be afraid... don't chicken out yet again.  
Cicero, if you are ever to have any credibility on this board again... back up your words and show
where I made those statements.
(Or continue to lie... makes no difference to me!)



You tell me where I say a zygote is a CHILD.(yes, you put it in all caps again). And then explain your post about welfare benefits and government assistance for a zygote that I never defined as a CHILD.  Your entire last post was based off of nothing I ever said.  I clearly said a fertilized egg is a human life.  It was you that attempted to define "human being" separate from human life.  And then ultimately asked ME to define human being for you.  Talk about a guy chasing his tail.  You still can't difine an OBVIOUS human being.  Now you are claiming I called a fertilized egg a child.  Stop running box.  Just clarify your obviously defined human being.


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defining life is hard enough, especial if someone is brain dead but explaining how we go  from a human ORGANISM  to human being  is even tricky er and  wasnt covered n my bio 1a class- so quit pretending YOU know


I never said I know.  Reread the thread.  It is box a rox that claims to know when exactly a human being comes into existence.  My only claim is that a fertilized egg is a human life that can turn into nothing else besides a human being.  So at conception the life of a human being begins.


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