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I had a very very interesting conversation with a woman yesterday.
Brief background.....She said that she just moved here from NJ, is in her 50's, not married, altho has adult children, and was not born here.

She said she lost her job (and is till unemployed) and that NJ offers no 'help'...(I didn't ask exactly what kind of help)
So she said that everyone told her to move to NYS because...in her words.....'they have a lot of give-a-ways'.

Now I'm glad that 'we the taxpayers' can help her out during this difficult time.
And that 'we the taxpayers' are glad that she was able to buy a mcmansion in nisky when she moved here.
It must be so hard on these folks.
Glad we could help.


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Quoted from bumblethru
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She said she lost her job (and is till unemployed) and that NJ offers no 'help'...(I didn't ask exactly what kind of help)
So she said that everyone told her to move to NYS because...in her words.....'they have a lot of give-a-ways'.



I find this story amazing.  This woman actually spoke with EVERYONE!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Quoted from Box A Rox


EVERYONE!




"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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YUP!   EVERYONE!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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and New York does not make the list!!!!

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These are the best states in which to be unemployed.

10. Kansas

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 44% (23rd highest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 43.2% (4th highest)
> Unemployment rate: 5.8% (14th lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 1.3% (tied for 24th highest)

Kansas residents received an average of nearly $334 a week in unemployment insurance in the 12 months ending with the first quarter of 2013. At 43.2% of the state's average weekly wage, this was more than all but three other states. Also impressive, the state had a June unemployment rate of just 5.8%, while the national rate was 7.6%. However, Kansas has lagged behind the rest of the country in job growth in the past six months, growing payrolls by just 1.3% versus 1.7% nationwide. One of the major drags on the state's economy has been Wichita's aircraft industry, which has not recovered the jobs it cut during the recession.

9. Utah

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 31% (6th lowest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 43.3% (3rd highest)
> Unemployment rate: 4.7% (8th lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 2.2% (6th highest)

Unemployed Utahns entitled to benefits received more than 43% of their average weekly wages, higher than all other states except for Hawaii and North Dakota. Those finding themselves unemployed may have an easier time jumping back into the workforce as well. The unemployment rate in Utah was just 4.7% in June, the eighth lowest of all states. Between June 2012 and June 2013, there were 2.2% more nonfarm workers, a bigger increase than all but five other states.

8. Washington

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 45% (tied for 19th highest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 38.6% (15th highest)
> Unemployment rate: 6.8% (20th lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 2.0% (tied for 7th highest)

Washington residents received fairly generous unemployment insurance benefits in the 12 months ending with the first quarter of 2013, averaging nearly $378 a week. This was equal to 38.6% of the state's average weekly wage of just under $980 -- among the highest in the nation -- and was better than the 33% workers received nationally in benefits on average. The unemployed in Washington also faced a fairly strong job market, with employment growing at 2% in the past 12 months through June. The Seattle area has recovered the majority of jobs it lost during the recession, although much of the job growth and availability was limited to high-skilled workers with backgrounds in engineering and technology.

7. Vermont

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 48% (12th highest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 39.9% (10th highest)
> Unemployment rate: 4.4% (4th lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 1.1% (19th lowest)

Vermont paid out a benefit of nearly $309 in the 12 months running through the first quarter of 2013. This comprised nearly 40% of average weekly wages, higher than the majority of states. The unemployment rate in Vermont as of June 2013 was just 4.4%, lower than all but three other states, although the number of nonfarm jobs rose only 1.1% between June 2012 and June 2013, lower than the 1.7% nationwide growth.

6. Idaho

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 47% (tied for 14th highest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 37.5% (18th highest)
> Unemployment rate: 6.4% (17th lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 3.0% (the highest)

Idaho had the nation's fastest nonfarm job growth of 3% between June 2012 and June 2013, which may help explain the state's relatively low unemployment rate of 6.4%. Among the unemployed, a relatively high percentage received benefits. However, the state average weekly wages of just $681 was one of the lowest in the nation, compared to $923 nationally. Idaho had the highest percentage of workers earning minimum wage in the country, and in an interview with Idaho's StateImpact, Mike Ferguson, the director of the Idaho Center for Fiscal Policy noted that there was an ongoing "race to the bottom and we're pretty darn close to winning."

5. Minnesota

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 47% (tied for 14th highest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 39.3% (13th highest)
> Unemployment rate: 5.2% (9th lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 1.7% (14th highest)

Job growth in Minnesota was in line with the rest of the nation. Similarly, the percentage of unemployed residents receiving unemployment benefits was only slightly above the national benchmarks. The state's low unemployment rate of 5.2% helped make Minnesota a top five state for unemployed workers seeking a job. Also, Minnesota's ability to support its unemployed residents is likely to be less affected by the sequester than other states. While the average national cut in unemployment benefits is expected to drop by $43 per person, it is only expected to drop by $37 a person in Minnesota.

4. Iowa

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 45% (tied for 19th highest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 43.2% (4th highest)
> Unemployment rate: 4.6% (5th lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 1.6% (21st highest)

Iowa had one of the nation's lowest unemployment rates — at just 4.6%, it is three percentage points lower than the national rate of 7.6%. The unemployment insurance benefit was equal to 43.2% of the average weekly wage — tied for fourth highest in the nation. But according to The Des Moines Register, job growth in Iowa is expected to fall short of goals set by Governor Terry Branstad, who aimed to add 200,000 jobs over five years ending in 2016.

3. North Dakota

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 36% (14th lowest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 43.9% (2nd highest)
> Unemployment rate: 3.1% (the lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 2.6% (4th highest)

The average weekly benefit for unemployed workers in North Dakota was more than $376 as of the first quarter of 2013, higher than all but five other states. However, just 800 people received unemployment insurance, the second fewest of all states. North Dakota and its residents are benefiting from an oil boom, which is bringing many jobs to the area. The number of nonfarm workers grew 2.6% between June 2012 and June 2013, higher than all but four other states. This comes on top of a 9.8% growth in the previous 12 months, which was by far the biggest growth of all states that year. The unemployment rate as of June 2013 was a mere 3.1%, lower than any other state.

2. Hawaii

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 51% (10th highest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 53.0% (the highest)
> Unemployment rate: 4.6% (5th lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 1.3% (tied for 24th highest)

The average benefit in Hawaii was more than $422 per week, comprising 53% of the average weekly wages — both the highest in the country. Of those who were unemployed, 51% received benefits, higher than all but nine other states. Hawaii had only a 4.6% unemployment rate as of June 2013, lower than all but four other states. There were 6.1% more tourists in the state in the first four months of 2013, compared to the same time in 2012, with a related increase of 6.3% in total spending during that time. According to the Hawaii Tourism Authority, this translated into 3,000 more local jobs.

1. Montana

> Pct. unemployed getting benefits: 55% (8th highest)
> Pct. average weekly wage covered: 40.3% (9th highest)
> Unemployment rate: 5.4% (12th lowest)
> 1-yr. job growth: 2.0% (tied for 7th highest)

Being unemployed in Montana does not look the same as it does for most of the country. On average, unemployment benefits covered more than 40% of the state's average weekly wages in the 12 months ending with the first quarter of 2013, the ninth highest of all states. In addition to unemployment rate being among the lowest in the country, nonfarm employment grew by 2%, higher than all but a handful of states. Employment growth was most noticeable in the information field and in and professional and business services, where the number of jobs grew by 7.4% and 7.1%, respectively. Montana was also in the top 10 of all states in terms of employment growth in the previous 12 months.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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http://www.infoplease.com/business/economy/state-unemployment-compensation.html

State Unemployment Compensation
Minimum and Maximum Weekly Benefit, 2013


New Jersey  MIN WKLY 87    MAX WKLY 624
New York     MIN WKLY 64    MAX WKLY 405


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
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Perhaps the woman was not speaking of unemployment insurance. I know for fact of people moving here and going straight to food stamps. Who knows what else is available without any real oversight. I'm talking about people who do not fit any definition of down and out, people with assets.
I'm hopeful that now that NYC has elected someone who is something of a commie, they will stop cleaning house direct to Schenectady.
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Perhaps the woman was not speaking of unemployment insurance. I know for fact of people moving here and going straight to food stamps. Who knows what else is available without any real oversight. I'm talking about people who do not fit any definition of down and out, people with assets.
I'm hopeful that now that NYC has elected someone who is something of a commie, they will stop cleaning house direct to Schenectady.


THANK YOU!!! Of course she wasn't talking about unemployment insurance! She did in fact say she went down to the dss office. TRUTH!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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The federal government pays 100 percent of SNAP/Food Stamp program benefits.
Federal and State governments share administrative costs (with the federal government contributing
nearly 50 percent).


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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THANK YOU!!! Of course she wasn't talking about unemployment insurance! She did in fact say she went down to the dss office. TRUTH!


Then maybe you could be a little more specific than GIVE AWAYS so we can understand better....TRUTH!


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When NYS throws around food stamps too freely, there is a cost to residents. The federal money spent is that free government money, I guess.
I found out that those food stamp cuts people are experiencing right now are not actual cuts, but rather the end of increases implemented under the 2009 Recovery Act, and they were scheduled to end November 2013. I wonder if the working poor who are dependent on food stamps knew that they were going to receive less down the road.
I am not against programs to help people in need and I never have been. New York State, and Schenectady County in particular, make it way too easy to freeload and attract people who could manage on their own if they had to. Fewer freeloaders=more money available for those who have no other way.
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She must be referring to the 2 for 1 sale at Price Chopper because you're not qualified for welfare benefits if you own a home.
SNAP benefits, yes. Medicaid, maybe.

But the application even asks you if you own jewelry, guitars, tools etc, and if you do, you're not getting any cash.

More typical teabagger lies from bumble.
This stranger just walked up to you to brag about scamming welfare.
Sure thing.




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Yes, the application and the caseworkers do ask about those things, but nobody follows up to see whether or not any of the words on paper are true or not. I don't even think there is anybody checking to see whether people have applied in more than one place or not. Yes, there is a computer involved, but I don't think that there is any program being run at a level to catch double-dippers.
Food stamp fraud, I know for fact of people scamming that. I think the attitude is, "I pay taxes for these programs, I should be able to use them, too", and it probably is a relatively small amount of money for a single person, but I'd like to have an extra 50 bucks per month for myself, who wouldn't?
That bunch at the Twins motel, the ones where the boyfriend put bleach in the little girl's eyes, they came here dragging the kids along to get more welfare than they could elsewhere. The kids should have been living with their dads if the mother couldn't feed them, instead she was allowed to drag them along as her meal ticket so she and her lousy bf could get a free roof over their heads.
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Quoted from Madam X
Yes, the application and the caseworkers do ask about those things, but nobody follows up to see whether or not any of the words on paper are true or not. I don't even think there is anybody checking to see whether people have applied in more than one place or not. Yes, there is a computer involved, but I don't think that there is any program being run at a level to catch double-dippers.
Food stamp fraud, I know for fact of people scamming that. I think the attitude is, "I pay taxes for these programs, I should be able to use them, too", and it probably is a relatively small amount of money for a single person, but I'd like to have an extra 50 bucks per month for myself, who wouldn't?
That bunch at the Twins motel, the ones where the boyfriend put bleach in the little girl's eyes, they came here dragging the kids along to get more welfare than they could elsewhere. The kids should have been living with their dads if the mother couldn't feed them, instead she was allowed to drag them along as her meal ticket so she and her lousy bf could get a free roof over their heads.


it's not scamming...it is about, if I pay why can't I have what I paid for at one time or another????? the system puts
value on everyone....everyone across the nation should get a food stamp stipend regardless if they work or not...as
long as they 'put in' at one time or another.....the only way to keep everyone equally valued as important...labeling
the 'little man' as a pathetic slob who needs food stamps should be outlawed.....everyone should get them.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I guess I need to add that she is using her daughter's address. The daughter that advised her to come to NYS for their benefits. they both live in nisky....TRUE!

Hey...the women needed help that her state couldn't help her 'enough' with. At least NY'ers are more giving and more compassionate......yes?


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