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HarryP
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Put politics aside - and in real life, tell me your grocery, fuel, heating and taxes only went up 1.5% last year ...

Guaranteed, you will be amazed at the REAL cost of living increases, every year


We are advised NOT to judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.   Funny how that works.
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Put politics aside - and in real life, tell me your grocery, fuel, heating and taxes only went up 1.5% last year ...

Guaranteed, you will be amazed at the REAL cost of living increases, every year


1.5% is the average Cost Of Living Increase.  Take a look at past years and you'll see that this
the last decade hasn't been that bad:
1968     4.2
1969     5.5
1970     5.7
1971     4.4
1972     3.2
1973     6.2
1974     11.0
1975     9.1
1976     5.8
1977     6.5
1978     7.6
1979  11.3
1980 13.5
1981  10.3
1982     6.2
1983     3.2
1984     4.3


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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In agreement with Harry...inflation are "government" numbers and do not reflect real life.
Compare prices of normal items you purchase in a grocery store, 2011 to 2014...milk,
bread, cheese, soda, anything...you will see they have increased beyond the published Government numbers.
In addition, the formula does not allow for circumstances and make needed adjustments.
One example is price of Pork...because of disease issue, just in last few months, pork has risen $1.00+/lb.

Also, let's not lose site of the base used for SSI that is adjusted by COLA....it's reported income.
If increase by employer did not keep up with rate of inflation (which is unfortunately the norm),
then a person receiving SS starts out behind the 8-ball from the get go.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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The COLA numbers are a reflection of the AVERAGE Inflation...
Housing has decreased by huge margins, so if you bought a home, you got a deal compared to
pre Bush Economic Meltdown.  All our COLA was based on that AVERAGE.
Natural Gas is a bargain compared to fuel oil or propane... so if you heat with Natural gas, you got
a break on that AVERAGE.  If you heat with oil or propane, you got screwed by the AVERAGE.  

It's not just a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk, it's all prices combined and averaged.  

If you took out a loan, you benefited from low interest rates...
If you rely on CD's for income, you got slammed by low interest rates.
Again... it's the average.


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For last 15 years, annual increases at my company were 1.5-2%.
2 years in a row we were required to take 10 unpaid days and our
increases were delayed for 3 years.  (PS-Not the Union guys though!!!!!!!!)
All the averages in the world do not make up for what was lost,
what we would have invested, what we would have earned....like I said, we will never catch-up!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
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the minimum wage conversation is a straw man conversation for the fu(king political podiums for elections.....

IT'S STILL

THE MINIMUM
THE BOTTOM
SUBSIDIZED
POOR
LEAST
ETC ETC ETC ETC.......

raising it is only EVER in relation to the world economy/trade controls/bank controls/value controls etc etc....IT'S STILL THE
MINIMUM BOTTOM SUBSIDIZED POOR LEAST ETC ETC ETC.....

WE HAVE NOT COME A LONG WAY AND RAISING THE MINIMUM WAGE IS NOT A WIN IT'S JUST WHAT HAPPENS EVERY
GENERATION.....

IT'S AN OLD CONVERSATION THAT DOES NOTHING BUT MAKE SOME DUMB POLITICIAN SOUND SMART VIA TALKING POINTS,
whether they be Dem or Rep it really doesn't matter......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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For last 15 years, annual increases at my company were 1.5-2%.
2 years in a row we were required to take 10 unpaid days and our
increases were delayed for 3 years.  (PS-Not the Union guys though!!!!!!!!)
All the averages in the world do not make up for what was lost,
what we would have invested, what we would have earned....like I said, we will never catch-up!


there is no such thing as 'catching up'...the system is set and people fall where they fall in the cast....

it's all about the virtual value placed on the fiat/borrowing/taxes


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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FIRE THEIR A$$ES.....but to say the 'poor' are 'poorer' because they got a raise isn't even close to the big iceberg...
and to say that raising the minimum wage will fix the big iceberg is a political faux pas and not even close to the truth of the
matter......

VIRTUAL VALUE
VIRTUAL CHAINS


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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You approved it!


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COLA's always follow inflation... everyone with a COLA is playing catch up.  


COLA follows CPI, the CPI formula has changed many times over the decades.  The current CPI doesn't measure substitution into the formula.  For instance, if you are accustomed to monthly skiing trips to Gore Mt or Killington Mt at $70+ a lift ticket, and now you can't afford it, BUT...You can afford a $35 lift ticket at Maple Ski Ridge, in the eyes of government CPI, your substitution means have not been affected by inflation-you can still afford to ski.


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Attention, All Right Wingers...
Listen to this nun, Sister Simone Campbell before you make up your mind
that you are against the minimum wage.  She may change your mind and
you may end up supporting the minimum wage.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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If you don't like minimum wage find another job that will pay more for your hard work and talents. Minimum wage is there for a reason and that is because most of the jobs are only worth that period, it is a incentive to work and try harder to better ones self.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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If you don't like minimum wage find another job that will pay more for your hard work and talents. Minimum wage is there for a reason and that is because most of the jobs are only worth that period, it is a incentive to work and try harder to better ones self.


Either Henry didn't watch the video, or he did it with a closed mind.   Pity, he may have
learned something.


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Either Henry didn't watch the video, or he did it with a closed mind.   Pity, he may have
learned something.


What should I have learned? that a profitable business should not be profitable, or pass the cost to consumers? I posted a video before about this very thing, everyone they interviewed wanted better pay for the employees at WalMart, that is until they were asked if they would pay more for their products or donate a percentage of their bill to give to the workers, guess what their attitudes changed quickly.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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