The poster described the circumstances under which it takes that long to drive through downtown, and the circumstances under which it becomes necessary to do a U-turn. I think that I described accurately the reasons I feared that we might be creating problems, and other posters seemed to share some of my concerns. That leads me to believe that you did not properly read the posts or you wouldn't be making silly "get a life" remarks. Driving on Erie Boulevard is part of our lives, that's why we pay attention to these things, we are responsible adults.