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Can You Abort A 7 Pound Chimp???
Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Barbara Jaffe made a historical court decision on Monday.
Judge Jaffe ordered that two chimpanzees have the legal writ of Habeas Corpus. The two
chimpanzees, Hercules and Leo, were undergoing biomedical experiments at the Stony Brook
University in Long Island, New York.

The Non-Human Rights project is the group responsible for the lawsuit. It is just the latest in
a serious of legal attempts to grant personhood rights to non-human animals. Stony Brook
University is now required to go into court and argue that they have a legally valid reason
for keeping Hercules and Leo in captivity.


http://www.nonhumanrightsproje.....it-of-habeas-corpus/



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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OMG!  This Is Hilarious!  Classic Rand Paul!

From Time Magazine titled:
"Rand Paul Kisses Koch Bros @ss!"

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By Rand Paul:
Charles and David Koch are well known for their business success, their generous philanthropic
efforts and for their focus on innovation in management. Some also know them for their activism
in the political realm. All of these are important contributions to society. What is underappreciated
is their passion for freedom and their commitment to ideas."
(Now for the best part)
"Unlike many crony capitalists who troll the halls of Congress
looking for favors, the Kochs have consistently lobbied against
special-interest  politics."


"Get that? The two guys whose names are most synonymous with the astroturfing of tea
parties, who have impressed their private agenda on the GOP, who plan to rival the entire
Republican Party in political spending next year, and who tried turning welfare rancher
Cliven Bundy's armed revolution into a political cause for the richest .01% of Americans
- those guys are "against special-interest politics." It's hard to find two people who've
done more to atomize American society, since so much of their ‘libertarian' cash has
wound up as authoritarian spending."

Your @ss kissin is too little too late Randy boy... The Kochs already bought the nomination
for Scott Walker.
http://time.com/3822767/charles-koch-david-koch-2015-time-100/


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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'Belligerent', The Apple Didn't Fall Far From The Tree

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Rand Paul’s son, William Hilton Paul, was cited Sunday for driving under the influence
of alcohol (DUI) in Lexington, Kentucky, the Associated Press reported Wednesday evening.
Paul, 22, is no stranger to trouble with the law. In 2013, he was cited for possession of alcohol
as a minor at age 19, and was also charged with simple assault after he got into an altercation
with a flight attendant at Charlotte Douglas International Airport in North Carolina.

The latest incident occurred late Sunday morning when Paul crashed a 2006 Honda Ridgeline into
the back of an unoccupied car, Lexington Police said. The car belonged to his friend and was
uninsured, local Kentucky news site WKYT reported. Paul had “a strong odor of alcohol” and
“bloodshot watery eyes, slurred speech and was belligerent,” the police report said. He would
not complete a field sobriety test and he refused to take a breathalyzer.

Paul suffered minor injuries to his face and was taken to the University of Kentucky's hospital,
where he was treated for his wounds,


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'Belligerent', The Apple Didn't Fall Far From The Tree


So he should be off the road if the law is applied equally!
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Kentucky has an implied consent law. That means that if you refuse to submit to a chemical test you will be subject to a fine and automatic license suspension.


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So he should be off the road if the law is applied equally!


If you blindly believe ALL COP'S on what justifies applied consent.  Since we know ALL COP'S are pure as the wind driven snow and would never manufacture evidence.


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you gotta love the media for 'reporting' to the jury of the collective.....

I wouldn't even back up a story like this about the Clinton's daughter 'what's her face'.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If you blindly believe ALL COP'S on what justifies applied consent.  Since we know ALL COP'S are pure as the wind driven snow and would never manufacture evidence.


WTF are you talking about. Kid refused..."He would
not complete a field sobriety test and he refused to take a breathalyzer."
So you are invoking your conspiracy theory that it's all police
fabrication!  REALLY!!!! Are you sincerely that jaded and naïve?


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Can you imagine if Malia Obama or Chelsea Clinton had a run-in with the law, especially if they were
driving impaired?
It would be plastered all over the TV, 24-7, even that "liberal media" station, MSNBC.
But somehow, Rand Paul's son, William Hilton Paul, age 22, escaped immediate scrutiny.


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WTF are you talking about. Kid refused..."He would
not complete a field sobriety test and he refused to take a breathalyzer."
So you are invoking your conspiracy theory that it's all police
fabrication!  REALLY!!!! Are you sincerely that jaded and naïve?


No, not a conspiracy, it's called asserting your 4th Amendment.  I understand that accusing the "authorities" of possibly violating the 4th amendment is considered a conspiracy nowadays.

Are you so naïve to believe that all claims of probable cause during roadside stops are justifiable?  If you are driving to work tomorrow an get into a fender bender, and the cop that arrives claims that he/she smells alcohol and your eyes are bloodshot because of allergies.  Are you getting out of your car, and giving a Breathalyzer and performing a field sobriety test, or are you going to tell the cop you're not taking it because he/she has no right because you are not intoxicated?  Do you roll over like a seal on command?


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No, not a conspiracy, it's called asserting your 4th Amendment.  I understand that accusing the "authorities" of possibly violating the 4th amendment is considered a conspiracy nowadays.

Are you so naïve to believe that all claims of probable cause during roadside stops are justifiable?  If you are driving to work tomorrow an get into a fender bender, and the cop that arrives claims that he/she smells alcohol and your eyes are bloodshot because of allergies.  Are you getting out of your car, and giving a Breathalyzer and performing a field sobriety test, or are you going to tell the cop you're not taking it because he/she has no right because you are not intoxicated?  Do you roll over like a seal on command?


No, I have nothing to hide, did nothing wrong, so comply with request.  
You just can't accept that laws have been created for a reason and they are not
all violating your rights.  Get over yourself Mr. Special. Laws wouldn't be created
if it weren't for the minority, causing the majority to have to live with them.


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No, I have nothing to hide, did nothing wrong, so comply with request.  
You just can't accept that laws have been created for a reason and they are not
all violating your rights.  Get over yourself Mr. Special. Laws wouldn't be created
if it weren't for the minority, causing the majority to have to live with them.


...yup...roll over like a seal.

Because this would never happens in the greatest and freest country in the world with the highest incarceration rate in the world:
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DUI cases in jeopardy after Richmond County deputy admits falsifying readings

Richmond County, GA. Nov. 19 – The forced resignation of a deputy assigned to the DUI task force could affect the prosecution of hundreds of cases, according to those in the legal community.

Erik Norman faced mandatory resignation from the Richmond County Sheriff’s Office on Oct. 19 after a prosecutor reported that Norman told her he had falsified readings from a hand-held alcohol-testing device.

Norman told the department’s internal affairs division that he had done it only “once or twice” but couldn’t recall exactly which cases were involved. Norman’s credibility is gone now, no matter how many times he falsified readings, said Augusta attorney Robert “Bo” Hunter, who prosecuted drunken driving cases as the Richmond County State Court solicitor from 1988 to 1996… Even worse, Hunter said, is that there probably were people charged with driving under the influence who shouldn’t have been.

Norman, hired as a jailer in July 2002, was transferred to the DUI task force in March 2009. An accurate count of his DUI convictions cannot be made through court records, but during his time on the task force, he arrested an estimated 250 to 400 people.

State Court Solicitor Charles Evans said his office has 62 pending DUI cases in which Norman was the arresting officer. Each will have to be judged on its merits to determine whether to continue prosecuting them as DUIs. If necessary, the office will bring in Norman as a trial witness, Evans said.

The Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Coun­cil is investigating to determine whether Norman can keep his certification, said Ryan Powell, its director of operations. Unless he is arrested on felony charges or his certification is suspended, Norman is free to work as an officer, Powell said.

Falsifying evidence is a felony – making false statements – but prosecuting Norman for it would be difficult, District Attorney Ashley Wright said. A prosecutor would have to prove in which case Norman falsified the results, and there is no way to uncover those cases without Norman’s admission. He claimed he didn’t know which cases were falsified…


http://chronicle.augusta.com/n.....ty-admits-falsifying


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No, I have nothing to hide, did nothing wrong, so comply with request.  
You just can't accept that laws have been created for a reason and they are not
all violating your rights.  


I get laws are created for a reason...But I'm not going to read a one sided article(the cops side) and automatically assume their was enough probable cause to ask for a Breathalyzer.  It sounds like you agree with suspending somebody's license, restricting their ability to travel, just because they assert their 4th Amendment rights, and do not comply to the authorities.(you're not alone)  There are checks and balances, you seem to believe that because the cops say-so, and the media reports it,  then it's fact.

You can't accept the questioning of authority.  It really grates on you.  


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I get laws are created for a reason...But I'm not going to read a one sided article(the cops side) and automatically assume their was enough probable cause to ask for a Breathalyzer.  It's sounds like you agree with suspending somebody's license, restricting their ability to travel, just because they assert their 4th Amendment rights, and do not comply to the authorities.  There are checks and balances, you seem to believe that because the cops say-so, and the media reports it,  then it's fact.

You can't accept the questioning of authority.  It really grates on you.  

No, I can't accept ignorance.
4th amendment is not compromised, because there is a specific law that provides for
loss of license if refusal to take a Breathalyzer....believe it or not, it's to protect us all, including you!
No rolling over at all...doing what an honest person does that has nothing to hide....difficult for your
narrow mind to comprehend, I know.  Cry about your rights being trampled all you want.  For those of us
that fully understand why laws are in place, agree with them or not, and have nothing to hide, it's no big deal to comply!


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'Belligerent', The Apple Didn't Fall Far From The Tree


Rand Paul’s son, William Hilton Paul, was cited Sunday for driving under the influence
of alcohol (DUI) in Lexington, Kentucky, the Associated Press reported Wednesday evening.
Paul, 22, is no stranger to trouble with the law. In 2013, he was cited for possession of alcohol
as a minor at age 19, and was also charged with simple assault after he got into an altercation
with a flight attendant at Charlotte Douglas International Airport in North Carolina.

The latest incident occurred late Sunday morning when Paul crashed a 2006 Honda Ridgeline into
the back of an unoccupied car, Lexington Police said. The car belonged to his friend and was
uninsured, local Kentucky news site WKYT reported. Paul had “a strong odor of alcohol” and
“bloodshot watery eyes, slurred speech and was belligerent,” the police report said. He would
not complete a field sobriety test and he refused to take a breathalyzer.

Paul suffered minor injuries to his face and was taken to the University of Kentucky's hospital,
where he was treated for his wounds,



Did Paul's son refuse a BREATHLYZER or BLOOD TEST
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According to the citation, Lexington police found Paul in the driver's seat of the truck after it collided with a parked vehicle. The report said Paul was "belligerent" and had "a strong odor of alcohol," bloodshot eyes and slurred speech, Kentucky.com reported. He failed a field sobriety test and refused to take a blood test, according to the citation

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/04/22/rand-pauls-son-dui/26213657/




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No, I can't accept ignorance.
4th amendment is not compromised, because there is a specific law that provides for
loss of license if refusal to take a Breathalyzer....believe it or not, it's to protect us all, including you!
No rolling over at all...doing what an honest person does that has nothing to hide....difficult for your
narrow mind to comprehend, I know.  Cry about your rights being trampled all you want.  For those of us
that fully understand why laws are in place, agree with them or not, and have nothing to hide, it's no big deal to comply!


Yeah...Like those hundreds of people of Richmond County Georgia that "complied" and lost their licenses and charged with DUI because the breathalyzer was falsified by one of those respectable people that wear a costume for a living.  Those are good compliant America's, doing what honest people do.  Obey the authorities keeping everybody safe.


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