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It's funny Box, you read a lot into Rand Paul's words. He said he would lay out what the threat of ISIS is to Congress. But Congress would ultimately make the decision, and a President Paul would execute the will of the people. You assume Paul's reasoning for military action would compel congress to VOTE for the use of force.
In Paul's own words: (Look at who Randy refers to as our "ALLIES")
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“Right now, the two allies that have the same goal would be Iran and Syria, to wipe out ISIS. “So I also think that Turks really should be enjoined in this. And I do think that there can be a role for America. But I would rather see the president come to a joint session of Congress, [ask] for permission, and if he gets it, I still would like to see the ground troops and the battles being fought by those who live there. We can give both technological as well as air support. That could be the decisive factor in this," Paul said.
He would prefer not to send in ground troops... LMAO! That's reassuring!!! So now we have "President Rand Paul", hand and hand with his two BFFL allies, SYRIA & IRAN, in a joint venture war in the middle east. Libertarians... they just keep changing the rules! (How embarrassing to be a Rand Paul Groupie just now!) |
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In Paul's own words: (Look at who Randy refers to as our "ALLIES") He would prefer not to send in ground troops... LMAO! That's reassuring!!! So now we have "President Rand Paul", hand and hand with his two BFFL allies, SYRIA & IRAN, in a joint venture war in the middle east. Libertarians... they just keep changing the rules! (How embarrassing to be a Rand Paul Groupie just now!)
What do you mean? He's leaving it up to congress to ultimately decide. Do you want to send troops in? Do you want your representative to vote yes on sending us troops in? Call you senators and representative and demand US troops be sent in. Go ahead and push congress into a pro war position. Show your Blood Lust. |
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What do you mean? He's leaving it up to congress to ultimately decide. Do you want to send troops in? Do you want your representative to vote yes on sending us troops in? Call you senators and representative and demand US troops be sent in. Go ahead and push congress into a pro war position. Show your Blood Lust.
No Cissy. All (when hell freezes over) President Paul would do is what LBJ, GWB and Obama did when they went to congress... He would ask them for $$$ to wage war. As did his predecessors, he can't wage war with out the bucks... so he presents his case, just like LBJ in Vietnam, just like GWB,in Iraq, and Obama... Paul would get this one vote (as they did) to allow him to wage war. "Commander in Chief Randy Paul"! I bet Rand is creamin in his jeans just thinking about it! |
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No Cissy. All (when hell freezes over) President Paul would do is what LBJ, GWB and Obama did when they went to congress... He would ask them for $$$ to wage war. As did his predecessors, he can't wage war with out the bucks... so he presents his case, just like LBJ in Vietnam, just like GWB,in Iraq, and Obama... Paul would get this one vote (as they did) to allow him to wage war.
"Commander in Chief Randy Paul"! I bet Rand is creamin in his jeans just thinking about it!
If he would get the vote, why isn't Obama having a joint session of congress and requesting authorization? Because he does not want to put Congressional Democrats in a position to have to vote YES before the election. Please oh please have congress vote before the midterms. But you know that won't happen because they would be shaking in their shoes casting a yes vote. |
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If he would get the vote, why isn't Obama having a joint session of congress and requesting authorization? Because he does not want to put Congressional Democrats in a position to have to vote YES before the election. Please oh please have congress vote before the midterms. But you know that won't happen because they would be shaking in their shoes casting a yes vote.
Joining hands with Syria Iran and Turkey to fight ISIS is Randy Paul's idea. To carry out his plan, he just needs to wait a few years, get elected US President then carry out his Push To WAR! So for today... Rand Paul Talk Is Cheap... Kinda like you saying what you will do if elected president. HEY!!! I WONDER!!! DO YA THINK... If Cicero were running for US President... DO YOU THINK HE'D VOTE FOR HIMSELF! I BET HE WOULD! He's a "Me First Kind Of Guy"!!! |
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Joining hands with Syria Iran and Turkey to fight ISIS is Randy Paul's idea. To carry out his plan, he just needs to wait a few years, get elected US President then carry out his Push To WAR! So for today... Rand Paul Talk Is Cheap... Kinda like you saying what you will do if elected president.
HEY!!! I WONDER!!! DO YA THINK... If Cicero were running for US President... DO YOU THINK HE'D VOTE FOR HIMSELF! I BET HE WOULD! He's a "Me First Kind Of Guy"!!!
Where's Obama's plan? Propose it! Senator Paul will have to cast a vote with the rest of congress. Your right, talk is cheap...MAKE EVERYBODY CAST A VOTE FOR US INVOLVEMENT IN A CIVIL WAR. Please-please-please vote for authorization for the use of force. Paul's silly notion that reginal nations address the ISIS problem is crazy. Obama and the democrats need to propose the commitment of US blood and treasure. The Americans(especially democrats) will surely overwhelmingly support it. |
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Where's Obama's plan? Propose it! Senator Paul will have to cast a vote with the rest of congress. Your right, talk is cheap...MAKE EVERYBODY CAST A VOTE FOR US INVOLVEMENT IN A CIVIL WAR. Please-please-please vote for authorization for the use of force. Paul's silly notion that reginal nations address the ISIS problem is crazy. Obama and the democrats need to propose the commitment of US blood and treasure. The Americans(especially democrats) will surely overwhelmingly support it.
Rand Paul Goes To WarCissy kinda lost it. I guess the thought of his Libertarian Hero invading another country... dropping bombs, cruise missiles, and unleashing a whole warehouse full of drones on the "enemy" is too much for him. It's only a dream Cissy. Ron Paul Isn't President. (AND YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM ANYWAY). |
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Rand Paul Goes To WarCissy kinda lost it. I guess the thought of his Libertarian Hero invading another country... dropping bombs, cruise missiles, and unleashing a whole warehouse full of drones on the "enemy" is too much for him. It's only a dream Cissy. Ron Paul Isn't President. (AND YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR HIM ANYWAY).
Didn't lose it. I brought you back on point. Paul isn't the president(and as you said, he won't be unless "hell freezes over"). What's the presidents plan? What's Hilary's plan? Paul put his plan out and you are attacking it. Where is the counter proposal? Paul can write anything he wants, he's in no position to do anything. But Obama is. I'm sure former Secretary of State has a proposal. Maybe Paul's plan is horrible. We'll never know until there are counter proposals from the person in power - President Obama! Come on mr democrat...Where is the plan? |
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Didn't lose it. I brought you back on point. Paul isn't the president(and as you said, he won't be unless "hell freezes over"). What's the presidents plan? What's Hilary's plan? Paul put his plan out and you are attacking it. Where is the counter proposal? Paul can write anything he wants, he's in no position to do anything. But Obama is. I'm sure former Secretary of State has a proposal. Maybe Paul's plan is horrible. We'll never know until there are counter proposals from the person in power - President Obama!
Come on mr democrat...Where is the plan?
Cicero is wrong about so much so often, I often wonder if his posts are just one big long giant troll! The president is formulating a plan. Military action is seldom left to the President. The military has dozens of plans for such a contingency. It is up to the president to find the best plan for this situation. Oh and BTW, I didn't attack Paul... If 'hell froze over' and Paul were elected president, he'd be doing exactly what Obama is doing now... meeting with his cabinet and military advisors and formulating the best plan for the situation. It was just amusing to see the Libertarian show his true stripes. |
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Cicero is wrong about so much so often, I often wonder if his posts are just one big long giant troll! The president is formulating a plan. Military action is seldom left to the President. The military has dozens of plans for such a contingency. It is up to the president to find the best plan for this situation. Oh and BTW, I didn't attack Paul... If 'hell froze over' and Paul were elected president, he'd be doing exactly what Obama is doing now... meeting with his cabinet and military advisors and formulating the best plan for the situation. It was just amusing to see the Libertarian show his true stripes.
LOL! He's formulating a plan? That's amusing. How is it that he formulated a plan to bomb Libya and remove Gadafi from power and creating absolute chaos so quickly, and without asking for congressional approval? Now he is taking his time in response to ISIS, which has been going on for months? It's amusing to see democrats support US involvement in yet another war, while attacking Paul for suggesting leaving it up to regional nations. Do you actually believe this stuff, or are you paid to write it? |
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Oh wait... that can't be.... Randy Paul is NOTHING like LBJ or G Worst Bush or even Obama. He's this Libertarian GOD... infallible in every way! LMAO! Welcome to politics in the modern world Henry![/b] ]
So box are you saying you have a problem with congress voting on a issue of war, you know the way it is supposed to be done in the 1st place? Of course you are against it because it would show the true face of the democrats, and hell even the republicans, at least the republicans don't bs to the people about their stance. I'm all for congressional approval if done according to the constitution, what's your excuse? |
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LOL! He's formulating a plan? That's amusing. How is it that he formulated a plan to bomb Libya and remove Gadafi from power and creating absolute chaos so quickly, and without asking for congressional approval? Now he is taking his time in response to ISIS, which has been going on for months?
It's amusing to see democrats support US involvement in yet another war, while attacking Paul for suggesting leaving it up to regional nations.
Do you actually believe this stuff, or are you paid to write it?
Cissy, you really need to read the information available before you keep making a fool of yourself. Randy Paul isn't suggesting we "leave it up to regional nations... he's suggesting they join us in a war against ISIS. You know... we supply them with guns, tanks, planes, weapons, Drones, etc... just like we've done a hundred times before. He Quacks Like A Libertarian, but Acts Like A Republican. |
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So box are you saying you have a problem with congress voting on a issue of war, you know the way it is supposed to be done in the 1st place? Of course you are against it because it would show the true face of the democrats, and hell even the republicans, at least the republicans don't bs to the people about their stance. I'm all for congressional approval if done according to the constitution, what's your excuse?
You and Cicero really seem to be having some kind of breakdown today over the news of your fallen Libertarian. I have no problem with congress voting on a resolution to fund the war... It's how it has been done by Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives... and now by Libertarians. I don't know where you got the idea that I was opposed to Congressional approval! |
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