The point of this was to show that the government 'shuts down' every weekend.
The u.s. COLLECTIVE GOVERNMENT is a joke at best. No one believes them nor takes them seriously anymore!!! ...and that goes for the lame stream media....another joke and embarrassemnt.
It appearas that they have ALL run out of crap to dish out to the american sheople!
uh oh.....must be ready for another FALSE FLAG!! And even that gets little if any attention these days!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
"A looming government shutdown could actually cost U.S. taxpayers money. A lot of money.
According to the Office of Management and Budget, the two shutdowns in 1995 and 1996 cost taxpayers $1.4 billion combined. Adjust for inflation and you've got $2 billion in today's dollars.
Those two shutdowns lasted a total of 27 days, but there's no telling how long the government could be shuttered this time around if Congress fails to act by Monday at midnight. Even shorter shutdowns have proven successful at draining government funds."
LOL...Your such a joke Boxy.
Your complaining about the government wasting money.
Can you tell me when the government doesn't waste any money?
Don't worry Obamabot...You'll still get your entitlement check come Oct 1.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
‘One party doesn’t get to shut the government down to refight the results of an election.’
“One faction of one party in one house of Congress in one branch of government doesn’t get to shutdown the government to refight the results of an election.” Republicans don’t get to extract a ransom for doing their jobs.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Lol! What a sophomoric argument Obama makes! He suggests that the congress elected in 2010 can't challenge and change laws passed by the previous congress. How ridiculous...If that isn't an argument for not voting, I don't know what is.
Box claims I should vote because that is how you change things in America, then when a newly elected congress goes to Washington, sent there to change a bad law, box's president cries foul. Too funny box! GREAT POST!
Lol! What a sophomoric argument Obama makes! He suggests that the congress elected in 2010 can't challenge and change laws passed by the previous congress. How ridiculous...If that isn't an argument for not voting, I don't know what is.
Box claims I should vote because that is how you change things in America, then when a newly elected congress goes to Washington, sent there to change a bad law, box's president cries foul. Too funny box! GREAT POST!
Congress has voted over 40 times to repeal Obamacare. The vote lost every time. SO..... Obama care is the law of the land and GOP can continue to throw a tantrum and vote yet another 40 times, but until a repeal passes... Get the Fcuk over it.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Congress has voted over 40 times to repeal Obamacare. The vote lost every time. SO..... Obama care is the law of the land and GOP can continue to throw a tantrum and vote yet another 40 times, but until a repeal passes... Get the Fcuk over it.
So was Prohibition....So for the 3rd time I ask 'How did that work out again?'
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
So was Prohibition....So for the 3rd time I ask 'How did that work out again?'
It worked out about the same way that Slavery did. It fell under it's own weight. How did the GI bill work out? Fantastic. It helped vets but more it pushed a whole generation into college and America succeeded. How did Medicare work out? Again, a success. Before Medicare, over 50% of our elderly lived in poverty. Now that number is around 9%.
How did the WMD Iraq oil war work out for you??? Sucks huh!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
First off, I'm no fan of Obama care, why we are forced to make insurance companies rich to get healthcare is beyond me. With that said it was voted on and became law in 2009. What the Reps are doing right now is bad for the country, as it is costing us money and interfering with people's jobs. If the Reps want to change the laws they should keep trying to do it through traditional legal matters. If we shut down the government every time one party doesn't like something, we will continue to blow all of our hard earned tax dollars for absolutely no benefit in the end.
This is purely political posturing for party gain.
The House Republicans had a great compromise solution -- make members of Congress pay 100% of their health insurance costs and give individual Americans the same tax breaks that big corporations are going to get under Obamacare. Two very sensible House Democrats from New York State actually voted WITH the GOP on this compromise. Of course, our own representative did NOT, and Dirty Harry and the limousine liberals in the U.S. Senate shot down the compromise.
I can't wait until 2014 when we can get a Republican elected to the House of Representatives from our district.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
First off, I'm no fan of Obama care, why we are forced to make insurance companies rich to get healthcare is beyond me. With that said it was voted on and became law in 2009. What the Reps are doing right now is bad for the country, as it is costing us money and interfering with people's jobs. If the Reps want to change the laws they should keep trying to do it through traditional legal matters. If we shut down the government every time one party doesn't like something, we will continue to blow all of our hard earned tax dollars for absolutely no benefit in the end.
This is purely political posturing for party gain.
I agree.
Obama was re-elected by a sizable majority running on the Affordable Care Act and wanting nearly everyone to be able to have health insurance.
The Republicans are back doing what they did to lose in 2012. They became speed bumps.
If Obamacare fails because of the tons of obstacles the Republicans are throwing at it, the voters will once again vote against those who seek to defund and destroy the plans.
Just get the hell out of the way. If Obamacare fails by the president's hand, the Republicans can blame him.
If it fails because of the 1000 roadblocks and challenges against each piece of the plan, it will have failed by the hands of the Republicans.
It's as if the Republicans think people will call them heroes if they cause the plans to fail.
How about doing something useful like paying the bills and reducing spending.
All the chest thumping Republican attack plans, A B abnd C all failed.
Obamacare rolls on. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As government shuts down, Obamacare moves forward
By Karen Tumulty, Published: September 30 | Updated: Tuesday, October 1, 12:01 AM E-mail the writer
As most of Washington comes to a halt, President Obama is betting that Tuesday will be remembered in history for what he believes cannot be stopped.
“The Affordable Care Act is moving forward. That funding is already in place. You can’t shut it down,” Obama warned Republicans as the final hours before the shutdown deadline ticked away.
The day has arrived when millions of uninsured Americans have their first chance to sign up for what the administration says will be high-quality, affordable health coverage. That achievement is something presidents of both parties sought unsuccessfully for more than 60 years.
The coming months and years will show whether the new health-care law, commonly known as Obamacare, lives up to its aspirations. Those who sign up now, for instance, will not begin to receive benefits until January.
It faces challenges that are both substantive and political, and a degree of difficulty that has no historical parallel.
Social Security and Medicare look almost simple compared with the system that will be put into place with the Affordable Care Act. Obamacare seeks to establish new health insurance marketplaces and transform how care is delivered, while giving states significant leeway in determining how that will be done.
Not only must the complicated operation work as Obama has said it will, but it must survive a continued assault by Republicans, who demanded repeal or delay of the law as the price of keeping the government open and the nation solvent.
They also are certain to seize on every technical glitch and misstep.
“I’ve never seen a law implemented with so many delays, mistakes and problems,” House Small Business Committee Chairman Sam Graves (R-Mo.) said last week after the administration announced that online enrollment in the new marketplaces for small businesses would not proceed on schedule.
The Treasury Department has also delayed by a year the requirement that businesses with 50 or more full-time employees provide coverage for their workers or face a fine — a move that the administration said was proof of its flexibility but one that opponents contended was an early warning of disaster.
Implementing a big new law “is not sexy. It’s not exciting. But it’s critically important, and it’s incredibly hard,” said Gautam Mukunda, author of the book “Indispensable: When Leaders Really Matter.”
In the case of the Affordable Care Act, implementation is made all the more difficult by how many moving parts are outside the president’s reach.
“He has significant but not total control over the federal bureaus; he has no control whatsoever over the states,” said Mukunda, who teaches at Harvard Business School. “But he’s going to get the blame for anything that goes wrong.”
It also remains to be seen whether Obama — who has often expressed frustration at his inability to explain the law in a compelling way — can muster the kind of leadership it will take to win over a skeptical public.
“The president has to continue to focus,” said Robert J. Blendon, a professor of health policy and political analysis at Harvard University. He added that the launch of the new health-care system “is a historic evolution of events. It is not a day.”
Finding a way to provide medical coverage for all has eluded presidents at least as far back as Harry S. Truman.
“What did the Republicans do with my proposal for health insurance? You can guess that one. They did nothing,” Truman said during his grueling whistle-stop campaign in 1948. “Does cancer care about political parties? Does infantile paralysis concern itself with income?”
They’re a few dozen lawmakers from swing districts and suburbs mostly in the Northeast and California.
Initially, at least, Obamacare will fall well short of universal coverage. That is because, when the Supreme Court upheld the law’s constitutionality last year, it struck down the part that required states to expand their Medicaid programs to include everyone below the poverty line.
About 6.4 million poor people will be left behind because they live in states that either have chosen not to broaden eligibility for their Medicaid programs or have not made a decision, according to a recent analysis by the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation.
Nonetheless, the health-care act marks the most ambitious new social program since 1965, when President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the law that established Medicare for the elderly and Medicaid for the poor.
As hard as it had been to get that law passed against opponents as powerful as the American Medical Association, which had warned that Medicare would be “the beginning of socialized medicine,” Johnson knew that was just the beginning.
“Perhaps never — except in mobilizing for war — has this government made such extensive preparations for any undertaking,” LBJ wrote in a telegram to the AMA a week before the new programs launched.
Johnson had an additional concern: Medicare and Medicaid were put into place shortly after the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and he saw them as levers to force Southern hospitals to integrate.
“He personally kept track of every hospital in the South, and for the ones that were not complying, he called their governors,” said David Blumenthal, president of the Commonwealth Fund, a national philanthropy that researches health and social policy issues.
Harvard’s Blendon noted that Obamacare would not be the first major health initiative to get off to a slow and bumpy start. It took 17 years before Medicaid was adopted in all 50 states, with Arizona being the last to accept it.
But a rocky launch can also doom a health initiative, as happened in 1988, when President Ronald Reagan signed a law that imposed a Medicare surtax to pay for coverage of catastrophic medical expenses and prescription drugs.
After a mob of livid elderly people chased House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dan Rostenkowski (D-Ill.) down a Chicago boulevard and then surrounded his car, Congress got the message and repealed the law.
Prescription drug coverage was revived in 2003, when it was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by President George W. Bush.
The 2014 midterm elections loom as an important political test for Obamacare.
If Democrats do well and hang on to the Senate, opponents may begin to accept the law as a fait accompli, and recalcitrant states may find it more politically palatable to accept federal money to expand their Medicaid programs.
Obama health-care adviser Chris Jennings argued that Americans will warm up to the law when they begin to experience its benefits.
“They need to see how it is working for them,” he said.
That is only the first step on what could be a long road to public acceptance.
Ultimately, Blendon said, “the power of the law will be the voices of people who have health insurance who didn’t before. If you give coverage to people, it is going to be hard to ever take that coverage away.”
It worked out about the same way that Slavery did. It fell under it's own weight. How did the GI bill work out? Fantastic. It helped vets but more it pushed a whole generation into college and America succeeded. How did Medicare work out? Again, a success. Before Medicare, over 50% of our elderly lived in poverty. Now that number is around 9%.
How did the WMD Iraq oil war work out for you??? Sucks huh!
poverty is subjective and abstract affordable is subjective and abstract
they are both projected values based on a system that all the casts get set up in....
someone is ALWAYS at the bottom of a fiat system....
so slavery while not in existence IS in existence...
as for the vets the military is a voluntary military until the draft....
the only people who have no choice are the elderly...and their situation depends on the above values/casts....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Obama was re-elected by a sizable majority running on the Affordable Care Act and wanting nearly everyone to be able to have health insurance.
The Republicans are back doing what they did to lose in 2012. They became speed bumps.
If Obamacare fails because of the tons of obstacles the Republicans are throwing at it, the voters will once again vote against those who seek to defund and destroy the plans.
Just get the hell out of the way. If Obamacare fails by the president's hand, the Republicans can blame him.
If it fails because of the 1000 roadblocks and challenges against each piece of the plan, it will have failed by the hands of the Republicans.
It's as if the Republicans think people will call them heroes if they cause the plans to fail.
How about doing something useful like paying the bills and reducing spending.
Nope, Gotta keep up the war against Obama.
They are practically handing 2016 to Hillary.
Just let it fail?
Just let drug prohibition laws fail = millions of Americans incarcerated and inner cities turned into war zones.
Just let the authorization to use force in Iraq = hundreds of thousands of innocent people dead or wounded.
Just let the Patriot Act fail = the NSA collecting and storing electronic data of ALL Americans.
Just let Obamacare fail = employment reduced to 29 hours, lose your doctor, premiums go up, standard of living goes down.
Just letting bad laws fail means knowing people will be harmed by the law while waiting for failure. That means you are willing to sacrifice people for political gain. I wouldn't elect somebody whose strategy was to wait around and let a law fail while I suffered the consequences of the failure.
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