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Madam X
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Maybe the couple I know who had their taxes jacked up so high in the last reassessment that they can't afford a night out or they will lose their home can stand with their nose pressed up against the glass and watch the people having fun, for free.
How many people posting here can come up with an extra two grand quarterly, on top of their mortgage? I thought not.
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Maybe the couple I know who had their taxes jacked up so high in the last reassessment that they can't afford a night out or they will lose their home can stand with their nose pressed up against the glass and watch the people having fun, for free.
How many people posting here can come up with an extra two grand quarterly, on top of their mortgage? I thought not.


you can't earn enough as a waitress or movie attendant or certified nurse's aide or LPN to afford a mortgage with
schenectady taxes AND then spend your $$ at the gumbas establishments....

$15/hour(being high here) GETS YOU NO WHERE in a good neighborhood with a good chunk of disposable income....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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If you take money from the citizenry and give it to the well off, instead of using that money for the common good, i.e. plowing, proper equipment for the fire department, etc., you are taking money away from the poor and giving it to the wealthy, you are doing exactly that, and YES, DVOR, you are advocating for that, right now.
This Metroplex business is a form of money laundering. People can't see who is getting robbed, and for some reason many can't put two and two together. Sometimes they don't want to know, I think. People get thrown out of their homes, but people who don't live here get to hang out at some shiny bars and restaurants so that's good. People can't sell their houses, but non-residents stop downtown more, so that's okay. The city can just initiate a new program whereby they will authorize some new hires to barge into our homes and scrounge in our sofas as a new source of revenue, because that will be as lucrative as the non-taxpaying businesses owned by non-residents are.


You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG.  I have never advocated taking money away from the poor.  That is a FACT.  I have clearly stated in previous posts my opposition to tax dollars being spent by a non-elected board - which is what Metroplex is.  I have clearly stated that OTHER incentives should be used first to attract businesses before property tax exemptions are considered.  I have clearly stated that IF property tax exemptions are granted that they should be for shorter periods of time - so that the property is back on the rolls at the full 100% value sooner.

Having said that, I still believe and maintain that Schenectady County is better off today than it was 10 years ago.  This is due in large part to the leadership of the County Legislature and the great work done by Ray Gillen and the County Economic Development Office.  If we had not made the investments that we made in the past 10 years, Schenectady County would be languishing as a no-horse ghost town -- the way it was when it was run by the likes of Bob Farley and Al Jurzynski and that whole crew.

It is ridiculous how the nayboobs are now claiming that high ticket prices at Proctor's and parking fees are taking money from poor people when for years they have been claiming that NO ONE goes Downtown and NO ONE goes to Proctor's.  The nayboobs can't seem to keep their lies straight.




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High ticket prices and parking fees are taking money from poor people? That is not something I said. You support the goings on downtown, therefore you support taking tax money and giving it to well-to-do non-residents. Show us the economic benefit to having our money stolen in this way, please. In real numbers, that we can check ourselves. Who ever heard of "generated revenue" that can't be accounted for?
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Who ever heard of "generated revenue" that can't be accounted for?


Oh, that is called political campaign accounting.  


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You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG.  I have never advocated taking money away from the poor.  That is a FACT.  I have clearly stated in previous posts my opposition to tax dollars being spent[/b] by a non-elected board - which is what Metroplex is.  [b] I have clearly stated that OTHER incentives should be used first to attract businesses before property tax exemptions are considered.  I have clearly stated that IF property tax exemptions are granted that they should be for shorter periods of time - so that the property is back on the rolls at the full 100% value sooner.
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  If we had not made the investments that we made in the past 10 years, Schenectady County would be languishing as a no-horse ghost town -- the way it was when it was run by the likes of Bob Farley and Al Jurzynski and that whole crew.

It is ridiculous how the nayboobs are now claiming that high ticket prices at Proctor's and parking fees are taking money from poor people when for years they have been claiming that NO ONE goes Downtown and NO ONE goes to Proctor's.  The nayboobs can't seem to keep their lies straight.





Once again, DV, YOU are the one is TOTALLY WRONG.

These are 100% PERMANENT tax exemptions, they are NOT going to "brought to 100% value sooner."


Really?   YOU are the one who can't remember what YOU said.   Go ahead, provide the EVIDENCE that you have ALWAYS said that.   Well??????   Provide the LINKS to the "always said that."   A FEW times you have stated that you perhaps thinking there should be no Metroplex but then ultimately you cheer and shake your pom poms proclaiming that Metroplex and all they do is a wonderful investment and everything is so rosy.  

As you are NOT a taxpayer, you have absolutely NO CLUE about how homeowners struggle financially under the burden of having to pay for the property taxes of downtown.   DV, downtown is NOT a bunch of small local people starting up a little business where the owners of the business wind up with a net profit of something like $40,000 a year and try to raise their family on that.   Downtown businesses are owned by MILIONAIRE AND BILLIONAIRES.   Downtown businesses can MORE THAN AFFORD to pay their taxes and still live like royals.   And all your cheerleading for the dems and their decisions -- their decisions to make financially struggling people pay for downtown -- CLEARLY shows your 100% UNWAIVERING SUPPORT for taking money from the poor and giving it to the rich.  

By the way DV while SOME city people go downtown to Proctors and SOME city people go other places downtown, the VAST MAJORITY of people CANNOT AFFORD IT. and now IF they EVER choose to go downtown, it will cost them more!  

Taxed via parking fees on top of paying almost the highest taxes in the country--and THAT is something that YOU do not understand because YOU are NOT A TAXPAYER.  When, no IF you EVER buy a house and have a wife and children, maybe you will understand what real people go through.  You are obviously the only person in the state who had two mommies' to live off of.


Watch, DV says things are so much better than 10 years ago, but he will not produce any EVIDENCE.   He will NOT address the falling tax base, falling property values, falling home sales, falling home sale prices, elimination of essential service, the increase in vacancy rate of residential units, the increased blight, the incrase in tax forclosures, the increase in abandoned homes, and increasing taxes over the past 10 years.   Sure, downtown is "pretty" with new buildings, but what about the rest of the city, the neighborhoods, where people live.










Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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Schenectady county couldn't really be a ghost town with so many homeowners, could it? Notice that the Michael's went in outside of Amsterdam. We could have used that kind of business here. Downtown was shabbier in those days, but there were just as many businesses. Metroplex pushed businesses out as well as brought in new ones, that is a fact, and DVOR or anybody else stated otherwise is just plain wrong. What we "need" downtown is businesses that come in all by themselves. Notice areas like Clifton Park, just outside the city of Amsterdam, Malta, the business follows the homebuyers, not the other way around.
Why is McCheese allowing the welfare spigot to flow so freely? You get concerned about your water bill, you shut off the leaks. We have City Mission, Salvation Army, and the same amount of subsidized 'projects' we had when our population was roughly 1/3 higher. No more! We have been used as a dump for NYC's problems far too long already. Even Connecticut is cracking down.
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New London, Conn. (WTNH) - A new fountain in New London has been turned off because some folks have been using it as a toilet.

The fountain features a sculpture of a whale's tail with water spilling over it, which visitors are encouraged to run through. It's supposed to be a nice way to cool down, especially on a hot day like this. City Councilor Mike Buscetto says one man fell down and used the fountain to wash off his blood.

"One gentleman defecated and continued to rinse underneath the whale tail and that got into the system," Buscetto explained.

Buscetto says that was the last straw. The fountain was shut off Saturday.

"It's sad, I mean it's only a few people who do this but the water needs to be treated properly," he said.

The whaling city is now looking into what can be done to get the water flowing again and keep it clean.

"We're going to have to be treat like a pool. It's going to have to be sanitized daily and different levels," Buscetto said.

Renaissancy fountain, huh?
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