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Super Rich For Getting Mega-Salaries And Leaving ‘Crumbs’ For The Poor




Pope Francis is once again calling out the super rich for being greedy and leaving nothing but
mere “crumbs” for the rest of us. The December 8th message titled “Fraternity, the Foundation
and Pathway to Peace” calls upon governments around the world to institute economic policies
to curb greed among the super rich.

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“The grave financial and economic crises of the present time … have pushed man to
seek satisfaction, happiness and security in consumption and earnings out of all proportion to
the principles of a sound economy… The succession of economic crises should lead to a timely
rethinking of our models of economic development and to a change in lifestyles.”

“We need, then, to find ways by which all may benefit from the fruits of the earth, not only to
avoid the widening gap between those who have more and those who must be content with the
crumbs, but above all because it is a question of justice, equality and respect for every human being.”


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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they are only super rich because we give value to managed populations via the fiat for trade....

why doesn't the pope tear down churches and give the land to the poor to subsist on.....????

remove the power of those that feed/clothe/water/house us....by that we would have to do it on our own.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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"Marxist ideology is wrong. But in my life I have known many Marxists who are
good people, so I don't feel offended."


-- Pope Francis, responding to conservatives who say he's a Marxist.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty then any other system ever known, him trying to cause rife between classes is a well known Marxist strategy, so if the shoe fits.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Capitalism has brought more people out of poverty then any other system ever known, him trying to cause rife between classes is a well known Marxist strategy, so if the shoe fits.

Capitalism???  The pope isn't against capitalism, just greed.  Of course there are some Right Wingers
who can't tell the difference between them. In their view, greed IS capitalism.



“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;
that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”

― John Kenneth Galbraith


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Capitalism???  The pope isn't against capitalism, just greed.  Of course there are some Right Wingers
who can't tell the difference between them. In their view, greed IS capitalism.



“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy;
that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”

― John Kenneth Galbraith


Pope never acknowledges that greed is in government.  How else does he explain a $17 trillion national debt that the citizens have to pay back with interest?  I find that omission facinating, and dishonest.  


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why doesn't the pope tear down churches and give the land to the poor to subsist on.....????

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AGREE!! The catholic church is the richest! Tear down those stained glass cathedrals aka mcmansions!!!
turn in all of the gold and all the rest of the 'museum'!!
in fact....tear down the entire Vatican....it really is NOT necessary!
it's just a very very expensive show piece!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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AGREE!! The catholic church is the richest! Tear down those stained glass cathedrals aka mcmansions!!!
turn in all of the gold and all the rest of the 'museum'!!
in fact....tear down the entire Vatican....it really is NOT necessary!
it's just a very very expensive show piece!!


Bumbler seems to support a mass 'redistribution of wealth'!  
How socialist of him!


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Liberals used to condemn the Catholic church as being greedy, amazing how that attitude is changing even though the actions of the church hasn't changed


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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the good ole' pope needs to practice what he preaches.

changing his shoes and living in another area of the 'rich compound'....just don't cut it!!!

the pope....catholic church....is a 'do as I say...not as I do!!!

he's a hypocrite!!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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Liberals used to condemn the Catholic church as being greedy, amazing how that attitude is changing even though the actions of the church hasn't changed


"Pope Francis’s mission to cleanse the Catholic Church of luxury"

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What is undeniably new, though, is Francis’s desire to cleanse his Church of luxury.
He is truly the Austerity Pope for this new age of austerity. He shows intense empathy for
the poor, the unemployed and struggling economic migrants.
To his credit, he backs up his views with action. He drives around Rome in an old Ford
Focus and lives not in the Apostolic Palace, but in a simple house in the grounds of the
Vatican.
He expects the rest of the Catholic Church to follow his example. This summer he told a
group of young nuns and monks, “It hurts me when I see a priest or nun with the latest
model car. You can’t do this.” He added, “Just think of how many children die of hunger
and dedicate the savings to them.” Last month he denounced those ambitious “airport
bishops” looking out for a more prestigious diocese, whom he compared to men “who are
constantly looking at other women more beautiful than their own”; and he commented,
“Careerism is a cancer.”


http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/10/austerity-pope


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and lives not in the Apostolic Palace, but in a simple house in the grounds of the
Vatican.


In the grounds, in other words a guest room inside the mansion, his Ford is his weekday car while his custom Mercedes sits in the garage. Not that I care, the Catholic church was always one of the most charitable religions in the world, I never claimed otherwise. It was the liberals who mocked the church for years as being the greedy ones.


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In the grounds, in other words a guest room inside the mansion, his Ford is his weekday car while his custom Mercedes sits in the garage. Not that I care, the Catholic church was always one of the most charitable religions in the world, I never claimed otherwise. It was the liberals who mocked the church for years as being the greedy ones.


I agree that the church in all it's wealth is anything but "christ like"... and that still applies today.  But
that has nothing to do with Pope Francis attempting to help the poor and the needy of the world by
addressing income inequity.  
IMO, Pope Francis is attempting in some small way to open the eyes of those who's eyes have been
blinded by $$$.  
What did Christ say about the wealthy???
It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven!


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I agree that the church in all it's wealth is anything but "christ like"... and that still applies today.  But
that has nothing to do with Pope Francis attempting to help the poor and the needy of the world by
addressing income inequity.  
IMO, Pope Francis is attempting in some small way to open the eyes of those who's eyes have been
blinded by $$$.  
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Being blinded by money isn't just a rich thing which he makes it out to be, many rich people donate time and money to help the less fortunate but for some reason people don't want to hear that. Its easier to cry about something someone else has that they don't even though they don't want to put the effort in to obtain it for themselves. Some are born with silver spoons but others obtained the silver spoon in the system you and the pope mock.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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