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While a sold out performance is desired, the theater doesn't have to be sold out to make a profit.
They are never interested in profit nor repaying the oppressed County taxpayers. Another reason why our taxes are 4X HIGHER than Saratoga County. Ghost is the biggest of 3 straight bombs at Proctor's. Schenectady is no place for experimental theater/circus. NYC theaters are also not tax cheats with phony educational missions. Pay a fair share PILOT, put Key Bank back on the tax rolls and stick to non Summer musicals. Maybe if they had actual marketers instead of fossil politicians they might break even-no? |
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If you compare Downtown Schenectady in the late 1990's and early 2000's when it was a pathetic-looking, dirty and spiraling downward under Jurzynski and the County GOP and Downtown Schenectady today under the leadership of Brian Stratton and Gary McCarthy and the County Democrats --- it is like comparing bombed out East Berlin in the late 1940's with a modern, bustling thriving city. Downtown Schenectady is growing, changing, becoming better every day ---- it is definitely in a Renaissance.
Proctor's is a huge PART of the Renaissance -- but not the only part. The newly spruced up Erie Boulevard will launch a series of new economic development projects along the Erie Corridor. Everything is coming up roses for Schenectady -- the RENAISSANCE CITY. |
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Madam X |
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Ha ha none of that is true. Exit3 gets it. So does Benny. I'm sick of all the finger-in-the-pie crowd telling us up is down and day is night. They all need to get real jobs. As do you. |
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They are never interested in profit nor repaying the oppressed County taxpayers. Another reason why our taxes are 4X HIGHER than Saratoga County. Ghost is the biggest of 3 straight bombs at Proctor's. Schenectady is no place for experimental theater/circus. NYC theaters are also not tax cheats with phony educational missions. Pay a fair share PILOT, put Key Bank back on the tax rolls and stick to non Summer musicals. Maybe if they had actual marketers instead of fossil politicians they might break even-no?
Every show that doesn't sell out is considered a "BOMB"? As stated above, most shows don't need to sell out to be considered profitable. |
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Madam X |
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If these shows don't have to sell out to be profitable, how is it that Proctor's can't break even without taxpayer help? I am not against Proctor's, but it needs some investigating. An awful lot of our money goes to keep it afloat. Is it worth it? I don't think so, and I never see any real numbers, any hard data, to dispel my doubts. Why not? |
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mikechristine1 |
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If you compare Downtown Schenectady in the late 1990's and early 2000's when it was a pathetic-looking, dirty and spiraling downward under Jurzynski and the County GOP and Downtown Schenectady today under the leadership of Brian Stratton and Gary McCarthy and the County Democrats --- it is like comparing bombed out East Berlin in the late 1940's with a modern, bustling thriving city. Downtown Schenectady is growing, changing, becoming better every day ---- it is definitely in a Renaissance.
Proctor's is a huge PART of the Renaissance -- but not the only part. The newly spruced up Erie Boulevard will launch a series of new economic development projects along the Erie Corridor. Everything is coming up roses for Schenectady -- the RENAISSANCE CITY.
Talk about telling lies and distorting the truth! If that is true, what you say, then please explain why people CHOSE to live IN the city back then and they are FLEEING THE CITY IN HUGE NUMBERS these days? Sure downtown has this clean appearance now, all new buildings, BUT do you have trhe guts to state what impact it has had on the the people who had their hard earned incomes STOLEN in order to pay for it? Care to state the impact on homeowners who are financially struggling to pay almost the highest taxes in the country so YOUR BUDDY DEMS could give the homeowners' money to the super wealthy downtown in both building/renovating AND exempting the rich from paying taxes. Tell us DV, WHAT has been the return for the city and the residents? What is the ROI on the tax base???? On the property values, home sales and prices, the desirability to live IN the city (which even YOU REFUSE to do), on the essential services to the residents. Of course, TOTAL SILENCE. Absolutely will not respond with a direct answer, just spew more lies and nonsense babble. |
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mikechristine1 |
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The newly spruced up Erie Boulevard will launch a series of new economic development projects along the Erie Corridor.
Yep another HUGE reduction in the city's tax base is coming. Home values will go down more. More people will put their homes up for sale and because homes in the city are NOT selling, there will be even more homes that will be abandoned. More vacant homes, more vacant apartments, more abandoned homes, more blight, more crime. |
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Madam X |
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That's exactly what I'm afraid of, more economic development projects. These "development" projects go hand-in-hand with all the things MC just mentioned. |
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A Better Rotterdam |
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There hasn't been any theater people would pay to see and that paid taxes since Goldfinger's was forced out of town..... |
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Now you know that the nayboobs are the stupidest bunch on the planet. They are actually afraid of economic investment in Schenectady. They somehow think that economic development is something that Glenda the Good Witch or the Keebler Elves create out of thin air. Ha Ha Ha -- what a bunch of fools. |
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Madam X |
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It isn't economic investment if it is our money. You don't understand this because you don't have an income, as I do. |
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mikechristine1 |
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Now you know that the nayboobs are the stupidest bunch on the planet. They are actually afraid of economic investment in Schenectady. They somehow think that economic development is something that Glenda the Good Witch or the Keebler Elves create out of thin air. Ha Ha Ha -- what a bunch of fools.
Economic development? Really ?????? Definitions: Economic development is the increase in the standard of living in a population with sustained growth from a simple, low-income economy to a modern, high-income economy. Economic development is the development of economic wealth of countries, regions or communities for the well-being of their inhabitants. From a policy perspective, economic development can be defined as efforts that seek to improve the economic well-being and quality of life for a community by creating and/or retaining jobs and supporting or growing incomes and the tax base. The following are FACTS about the city, proven over and over and over with evidence. HOW do the following FACTS and TRUTHS about Schenectady meet the definition of "economic development???"A DRASTICALLY falling tax base year after year. Falling property values. Falling home sales and prices. Homeowners unable to sell their homes. Homeowners underwater on their mortgage. Increase in vacant properties. Increase in abandoned properties. Increase in blight. Increase in crime. Reduction of essential services (like road paving) in order to create UNNECESSARY fancy lighting. Reducing the little wealth of the residents by increasing taxes in order to make the non-resident millionaire political cronies wealthier. Long time taxpaying businesses closing to be replaced by non-taxpaying businesses thus causing an enormous financial burden on the homeowners. Creation of a bunch of menial minimum wage jobs. Creating a community increasingly in need of public assistance. Moving EXISTING jobs from one address to another address within the same city or county. Handouts to the rich via stealing from homeowners. Government gin mills, government theaters, government hotels, government hair salon, government gym, etc. The non-resident political cronies get richer while the residents get poorer. Now we all know that the cowardly cuckoo cheerleader (for the dems) is the stupidest coward on the planet. He is actually afraid to address the falling tax base, the falling property values, the falling home sales and prices, the increase in taxes (to name a few) in Schenectady. He somehow think that economic development is something that is created by taxing people so high til they lose their homes. He somehow things that economic development is created by screwing the residents, reducing their quality of life, and placing unbearable financial burdens on them. Ha Ha Ha -- what BIG (in more ways than one) fool, a fool who claims the city is so grand, yet REFUSES to live in it!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA . A fool who REFUSES to put his money (the handout from the taxpayers) where his mouth is. |
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If you compare Downtown Schenectady in the late 1990's and early 2000's when it was a pathetic-looking, dirty and spiraling downward ...
All they did was rob from the rest of the city to remodel downtown. It doesn't appear to bother you at all that the pathetic-looking, dirty and spiraling downward ...areas were transferred to the residential sections. You judge the city by a two block section alone. You accept excessive taxation and the downward spiral of all the rest of the city, as long as your precious Proctor's blocks are plated with gold. |
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Now you know that the nayboobs are the stupidest bunch on the planet. They are actually afraid of economic investment in Schenectady.
Speaking of morons. Most people don't spend millions when they are facing bankruptcy.
You can't beautify a city out of tax death.
More economic development will result in more fatal tax death blows to the residents.
You don't care that thousands of homes will be taken in 2014 when they can't pay the economic development expansion costs.
A city is judged by it's assets versus liabilities.
Not by pretty facades.
You have never expressed one word of concern for the struggling taxpayers.
You choose to only defend the struggling rich and corporate welfare queens. |
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They are never interested in profit nor repaying the oppressed County taxpayers.
Beautify downtown.
Death to the rest of the city.
I wish we could get the 400 families that lost their homes this year to the tax collectors to hold a protest march on Proctor's at every single event.
Schenectady draws corporations from all over to come and become welfare whores.
Schenectady draws Johns from everywhere to come visit all the street whores too.
Schenectady has become the states largest whorehouse.
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