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About 7 out of 10 voters are “concerned” about how the Affordable Care Act will affect their health care, according to a Fox News poll released Tuesday.

Of the 68 percent who are concerned about their health care, 43 percent are “very concerned” while 25 percent are “somewhat concerned.” Older Americans between 55 and 64 years old are the most likely to be worried about their health care under the Affordable Care Act, with 77 percent in that age group expressing concern.

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You know things are bad for President Obama when even Warren Buffett has soured on Obamacare and says that "we need something else." Money Morning writes:

Buffett and Obama
"Healthcare costs in the United States are like a tapeworm eating at our economic body.

"Those words come from famed investor Warren Buffett, who said he would scrap Obamacare and start all over.

"'We have a health system that, in terms of costs, is really out of control,' he added. 'And if you take this line and you project what has been happening into the future, we will get less and less competitive. So we need something else.'

"Buffett insists that without changes to Obamacare average citizens will suffer.       http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/warren-buffett-scrap-obamacare-and-start-over_756302.html
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The company that I worked for had problems getting people with machining experience.  They made
Jet Engine Parts which was a well paying manufacturing job.  They threatened to move their business
to the Detroit area where there was an abundance of experienced machinists.
  State and Federal dollars would go to train these employees and get them started on a 6
month qualifying basis.
Many of the people being trained WERE ON PUBLIC ASSISTANCE OR UNEMPLOYMENT.  Instead
this program took them off of welfare and unemployment and put them to work at a well paying job.
  The Jet engine company got what it wanted... experienced machinists.
  The jobs stayed in place so the state got what it wanted.
  The taxpayers who paid the unemployment and welfare benefits got many off of assistance
forever.
  The people being trained now had a good job that is still in demand today.

Everyone succeeded.  Everyone moved up together.  A govt success story that only needed a push
to get started.  


Yes, I understand how the programs work, just wondering why tax dollars are training the workforce of private industry and how that fits into your anti corporate welfare position?  The money corporations saved in training by pushing that cost onto the taxpayer went into managements pocket.  If it cost $1000 to train 1 employee, and they hired 100 employees, that's $100,000 in the company's pocket.  The fact that companies threaten to leave the country because they didn't want to invest their own money into an American workforce should be appalling to you.

I guess you are torn, since by letting the government train the private industry workforce EXPANDS government, and creates new bureaucracies, the expansion of government services to train the workforce for private businesses is a good thing.  Any expansion of government is a good thing.

Nahhhhh...The United States isn't fascist though.


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I can explain how the welfare to work program is exploited too, where businesses are subsidized for hiring the chronically unemployed.  It's basically a revolving door, while businesses collect the subsidies.  You hire the unemployable, keep them for the required minimum, put them in a position that will not harm your product or service, then terminate them.  


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I can explain how the welfare to work program is exploited too, where businesses are subsidized for hiring the chronically unemployed.  It's basically a revolving door, while businesses collect the subsidies.  You hire the unemployable, keep them for the required minimum, put them in a position that will not harm your product or service, then terminate them.  


The Golub warehouse.

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The Golub warehouse.



healthcare too


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Yes, I understand how the programs work, just wondering why tax dollars are training the workforce of private industry and how that fits into your anti corporate welfare position?  The money corporations saved in training by pushing that cost onto the taxpayer went into managements pocket.  If it cost $1000 to train 1 employee, and they hired 100 employees, that's $100,000 in the company's pocket.  The fact that companies threaten to leave the country because they didn't want to invest their own money into an American workforce should be appalling to you.


How much did the Taxpayers pay for the unemployment and welfare, food stamps etc for these
trainees?  
How much would the Taxpayers continue to pay for unemployment and welfare, food stamps etc for these
people?

If, as you say, it costs $1000 to train these people, and each collects at least that much on public
assistance, then the cost to the taxpayer is negligible, EXCEPT these people now trained will have
a job PAYING TAXES, NOT COLLECTING TAX DOLLARS for the rest of their lives.




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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How much did the Taxpayers pay for the unemployment and welfare, food stamps etc for these
trainees?  
How much would the Taxpayers continue to pay for unemployment and welfare, food stamps etc for these
people?

If, as you say, it costs $1000 to train these people, and each collects at least that much on public
assistance, then the cost to the taxpayer is negligible, EXCEPT these people now trained will have
a job PAYING TAXES, NOT COLLECTING TAX DOLLARS for the rest of their lives.




I work with folks who 'rake it in' then decrease their working hours to 're-register' for bennies.....much like corporate
welfare.....so basically the taxpaying homeowners are fu(ked......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Your Typical Republican:

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Rep. Phil Gingrey  complained in a closed-door GOP meeting that many congressional
aides "may be 33 years old now and not making a lot of money. But in a few years they can
just go to K Street and make 500,000 a year. Meanwhile I'm stuck here making $172,000 a year."


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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"Whether it's Custer, whether it's kamikaze,
or whether it's Gallipoli or whatever, we are going to
lose this."


-- Rep. Peter King (R-NY), in a CNN interview, continuing his vocal opposition to a plan by
fellow Republicans to defund Obamacare.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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that is more than true across party lines....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Here is what today's Republican Party is not:



http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/grand-theft-auto-game-robbery-678453
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SEPTEMBER 20--A mentally challenged Florida man who had saved up for months to purchase a copy of "Grand Theft Auto V" was robbed of the video game as he left a GameStop store this week, police report.

After buying the game Tuesday afternoon, Rohan Dawkins was approached in a Delray Beach parking lot by a couple who pulled up in a car. After asking Dawkins for the time, Tommy Davis, 27, grabbed the bag containing the best-selling game, which was released this week.

When Dawkins sought to retrieve the item, Adele Jones, 25, allegedly kicked and punched the 21-year-old Dawkins, according to Delray Beach Police Department reports.

After swiping the game, Davis and Jones (seen in the above mug shots) drove to a second GameStop, where they unsuccessfully sought to return the game for a refund. Investigators believe that the couple subsequently sold the game to a third party.

A police report valued the stolen copy of "Grand Theft Auto V" at $150, an indication that Dawkins purchased a GameStop collector’s edition of the game.

Aided by store surveillance footage, Davis and Jones--parents to four children--were arrested yesterday. Dawkins identified both suspects when shown photo lineups.

During questioning, an “apologetic” Davis reportedly confessed to robbing Dawkins, claiming that he “stole the property because he needed new tires for his car.” Jones admitted that she and Davis went to GameStop intending to “catch a cracker,” which she said was slang for robbing a white person, cops reported. Instead, they robbed Dawkins, with whom Davis said she fought until Davis was able to drive away.

Davis and Jones were booked into the Palm Beach County jail on felony robbery and dealing in stolen property charges. They remain jailed in lieu of $5000 bond.

“I wanted to play the game with my sister and my cousins,” Dawkins (seen above) said yesterday at a police press conference. “I was buying it for my family and me.” Police announced last night that today they will present Dawkins with a donated copy of "Grand Theft Auto V." (3 pages)


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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that is more than true across party lines....


You are correct. There is NO republican NOR a democratic party...there hasn't been for at least 100 years! They are just 'labels' if you will. It is called 'THE COLLECTIVE GOVERNMENT'! And THE COLLECTIVE GOVERNMENT obviously knows how to control the minds and behaviors of the people to fill their COLLECTIVE agenda. Polarizing is a COLLECTIVE GOVERNMENT plan that has served GOV ALMIGHTY well.

The COLLECTIVE GOVERNMENT has the sheople focused on social agendas, while the COLLECTIVE GOVERNMENT is focusing on bigger,more important issues such as controlling education, healthcare, personal information gathering, corporate alliances, controlling banking systems and making up lame reasons to start unconstitutional wars.

AND THE COLLECTIVE GOVERNMENT (dems/reps) are all part of the same system.

'today's republican party'????  Don't make me laugh....there is none!!! Just like there is no 'todays democratic party'....it's all a lie and not a reality!!

......and the lame stream media is doing a great job of selling the lie...and all for $$$$$$!!!

wake up folks!!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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here is what AMERICA is....ask the republicans if they have investments in rockstar north/sony/microsoft xbox etc etc....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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