The number of homicides on record in New York City has dropped significantly during the first half of the year — to 154 from 202 in the same period last year — surprising even police officials who have long been accustomed to trumpeting declining crime rates in the city.
Good news but that idiot Bloomberg trying to say the stop and frisk policies are the cause are a joke.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Rudy and Bloomberg both took credit for improvements in NYC and everybody knows damn well they just dumped undesirables all around the rest of the state, especially here.
No one factor is responsible for all the reduction but I am sure it had some impact.
Many of the people involved in crimes in the City were home grown products.
A lot of the reduction in crime in NYC was related to a massive increase in the number of police on the streets and Compstat, not picking up criminals and sending them around the state.
Police: 8 shot at Brooklyn party; woman in critical condition
Published June 30, 2013 Associated Press
NEW YORK – Police say eight people have been shot at a party in Brooklyn, including a woman taken to a hospital in critical condition.
Authorities say shots rang out at a party at a residence at approximately 1 a.m. Sunday. They say the woman and seven other people who sustained non-life-threatening injuries have been transported to Kings County Hospital.
Police say there is no immediate word on the extent of the injuries or the identities of those who were hurt.
Police say no arrests have been made.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
Most of the decrease in crime here was due to sending their undesirables to Schenectady. One could see Rudy on television bragging about reduced crime, switch channels, and see yet another story about someone from the Bronx or Brooklyn committing a crime here. Our crime statistics magically went from zero to what they are today, while New York got safer? I don't think so. I know what I saw with my own eyes.
The whole claim that crime in NYC has decreased to that degree, is complete bunk. There's still less crime in NYC than there is here, but the statistics have been fudged.
They use a system called "Compstat" to tally the crimes, and routinely under-report crime by renaming them.
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So how do you fake a crime decrease? It’s pretty simple. Don’t file reports, misclassify crimes from felonies to misdemeanors, under-value the property lost to crime so it’s not a felony, and report a series of crimes as a single event.
Things like robberies are downgraded to simple theft, murder downgraded to manslaughter etc. The criminals are still punished for robbery, and murder but they are entered into Compstat as lesser crimes. There are quite a few NYPD blogs that denounce Compstat as being a load of crap.
The following link is to an article that appeared in the NYPD PBA magazine.
Madam X - You're just wrong. A lot of the gun violence and violent crime that occurred here because of the drug trade initially. And, that trade exploded due to locals making drug connections in the City and elsewhere, but it did not initially involve a huge influx of people. The Mayor on TV and local crime stories - that's a pretty lazy approach top researching an issue.
Tommy - That's wrong too. There have been abuses of the system and it has happened in other cities as well. But abuses do not negate the fact that crimes are down. Now, the PBA has a reason to refute the program because Compstat involves performance measures. PBAs fought the notion that management had the right to demand officers write tickets.
Madam X - You're just wrong. A lot of the gun violence and violent crime that occurred here because of the drug trade initially. And, that trade exploded due to locals making drug connections in the City and elsewhere, but it did not initially involve a huge influx of people. The Mayor on TV and local crime stories - that's a pretty lazy approach top researching an issue.
Tommy - That's wrong too. There have been abuses of the system and it has happened in other cities as well. But abuses do not negate the fact that crimes are down. Now, the PBA has a reason to refute the program because Compstat involves performance measures. PBAs fought the notion that management had the right to demand officers write tickets.
There are other related factors outside the control of police and government - growth in the population of youth, shift to a service related economy, increase in single parent families...
Actually, I am right. The increased drug trade is almost entirely due to the influx from NYC. You see, I have grown up here, I have spent much time in these neighborhoods, I have met the people. I've observed it up close and very personally. Tommy is right, as well. The statistics were fudged. I am sick of the downstate braggarts giving themselves pats on the back for something they did not do. Judges send probationers and parolees to Schenectady. They ORDER them to come here. We've been used as a crime dump. Yes, by now, it has affected some of the local youth in vulnerable areas. People from Hamilton Hill and Mont Pleasant were complaining about this way back in the Mayor Johnsonera. This is a matter of record, I'm not making this up. Their pleas were ignored. It's still ongoing. Homeowners in the Vale neighborhood did not want that toxic nuisance Bethesda House dumped in their midst. The city gave the "charity" our tax money to locate there. I have friends from these neighborhoods. It is no longer safe to venture into these areas, do you think my friends decided to become violent criminals? Ask rpf if the people causing the problems are the ones who've been here for generations. Ask Mark Chaires. Ask Al Jurzynski. You will get a very similar answer to what I am saying.
While serving on grand jury, we questioned the Asst. District Attorney on recent front page headlines concerning a huge drug bust. We assumed that the more arrested and the more publicity of the event, the less drug related crime on our streets. The DA said it was good that we removed those involved from the streets, but a huge front page splash about a "Drug Bust" will soon be relayed to the NYC drug groups. Instead of it being a 'warning', the DA said it would be an advertisement for NYC drug dealers that a new area has just opened up. Selling hard drugs in upstate is easier, less chance of being killed by your competition, and the price is usually higher than in NYC. The only down side, is a few hours drive to get here.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yes, these splashy drug busts don't do any long term good for the neighborhoods afflicted by this scourge. Temporarily, people get rid of some odious neighbors. Our politicians need to concentrate on the economic outlook for people on the lower tiers of the scale. You can't have a bunch of chronically unemployedor underemployed young men jammed in together without violence, not when there is poverty up against money. If everyone who could work in some of these bad areas decided to go to work tomorrow, there would not be enough "legit' jobs to go around. Not full time ones that pay enough to live on.
Madam X - I remember those arguments and assertions - while they were a dominant theme in the complaints of the locals - they were inaccurate.
RE: the jobs, you'll get no argument from me. The factory and high paying jobs that enabled our generation to get into the middle class are not coming back, at least not enough of them.
Madam X - I remember those arguments and assertions - while they were a dominant theme in the complaints of the locals - they were inaccurate.
RE: the jobs, you'll get no argument from me. The factory and high paying jobs that enabled our generation to get into the middle class are not coming back, at least not enough of them.
Well put Visitor.
Even AFTER the Metroplex has spent well over $100 million taxpayer dollars, there aren't even 5,000 jobs to show for it.
But, Galesi is making his millions building a DSS mega-one-stop-shop.
Guess the social service abusers are in the same league as Galsesi - both are leeches sucking the taxpayers dry and leaving in their wake a trail of poverty and criminality.
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