NDAA allows our government to do just that, it allows indefinite detention without a trial so really he could disappear
You're right, and that is totally frigged up. What I was trying to express is that this type of incident in these other countries, would not garner the level of publicity, public interest or outcry, and those governments would take harsh methods immediately to silence the whistle blowers, as they have in the past. They follow ZERO tolerance. Not condoning what he did, nor what our government did nor what our Government is doing.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Here is Snowden’s statement in full, as it appears on the Wikileaks Web site:
One week ago I left Hong Kong after it became clear that my freedom and safety were under threat from my government for revealing the truth. My continued liberty has been owed to the efforts of friends new and old, family, and others who I have never met and probably never will. I trusted them with my life and they returned that trust with a faith in me for which I will always be thankful.
On Thursday, President Obama declared before the world that he would not permit any diplomatic “wheeling and dealing” over my case. Yet now it is being reported that after promising not to do so, the President ordered his Vice President to pressure the leaders of nations from which I have requested protection to deny my asylum petitions.
This kind of deception from a world leader is not justice, and neither is the extralegal penalty of exile. These are the old, bad tools of political aggression. Their purpose is to frighten, not me, but those who would come after me.
For decades the United States of America have been one of the strongest defenders of the human right to seek asylum. Sadly, this right, laid out and voted for by the U.S. in Article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, is now being rejected by the current government of my country. The Obama administration has now adopted the strategy of using citizenship as a weapon. Although I am convicted of nothing, it has unilaterally revoked my passport, leaving me a stateless person. Without any judicial order, the administration now seeks to stop me exercising a basic right. A right that belongs to everybody. The right to seek asylum.
In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.
I am unbowed in my convictions and impressed at the efforts taken by so many.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Snowden is the globlist's dream come true! Snowden has 'united' the world! Countries, such as Russia and China, that American's were told were the 'bad guy', is now emerging as the 'good guy'!! The 'citizen's of the world' have now united with Snowden and the countries that are supporting them.
Our country has nothing more than military might left that is also being used by the globalists to accomplish their goal! America is now being absorbed into the black hole of globalism. We're there folks! The 'american experient' has failed!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Snowden is the globlist's dream come true! Snowden has 'united' the world! Countries, such as Russia and China, that American's were told were the 'bad guy', is now emerging as the 'good guy'!! The 'citizen's of the world' have now united with Snowden and the countries that are supporting them.
Our country has nothing more than military might left that is also being used by the globalists to accomplish their goal! America is now being absorbed into the black hole of globalism. We're there folks! The 'american experient' has failed!!!
LOL @ "United The World"...
~ NEW DELHI (Reuters) – India sees no reason to accept a request for political asylum by former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden, the country’s foreign ministry said on Tuesday. “Following careful examination we have concluded that we see no reason to accede to the Snowden request".
~ "Poland Denied Asylum To Snowden, Norway, Finland To Follow"
~Snowden withdraws Russian asylum bid after Putin says he must 'stop harming' US
~Ecuador denies granting asylum, safe passage to Snowden NSA leaker's travel documents 'have no validity'
Among the countries approached were Austria, Bolivia, Brazil, China, Cuba, Finland, France, Germany, India, Italy, Ireland, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland, Russia, Spain, Switzerland and Venezuela.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Snowden is the globlist's dream come true! Snowden has 'united' the world! Countries, such as Russia and China, that American's were told were the 'bad guy', is now emerging as the 'good guy'!! The 'citizen's of the world' have now united with Snowden and the countries that are supporting them.
Our country has nothing more than military might left that is also being used by the globalists to accomplish their goal! America is now being absorbed into the black hole of globalism. We're there folks! The 'american experient' has failed!!!
And, as the Soviet Union found out, a good idea is more powerful than the entire arsenal of a superpower.
~ NEW DELHI (Reuters) – India sees no reason to accept a request for political asylum by former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden, the country’s foreign ministry said on Tuesday. “Following careful examination we have concluded that we see no reason to accede to the Snowden request".
~ "Poland Denied Asylum To Snowden, Norway, Finland To Follow"
~Snowden withdraws Russian asylum bid after Putin says he must 'stop harming' US
~Ecuador denies granting asylum, safe passage to Snowden NSA leaker's travel documents 'have no validity'
Among the countries approached were Austria, Bolivia, Brazil, China, Cuba, Finland, France, Germany, India, Italy, Ireland, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland, Russia, Spain, Switzerland and Venezuela.
NO Cicero... I listed COUNTRIES, not GOVERNMENTS, which was what Bumbler was discussing. I also misspelled a word and probably used incorrect punctuation... if you want to get prissy... but since Bumbler was discussing C O U N T R I E S... Per Bumblers post: ~ " Countries, such as Russia and China," ~" The 'citizen's of the world' have now united with Snowden and the countries that are supporting them" ~ "Our country has nothing more than military might left"
I think "Prissy Cissy" needs to get laid!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The Country of Brazil, which for Cicero is represented by it's GOVERNMENT, turned down Snowden.
BRASILIA, July 2 (Reuters) - Brazil will not grant asylum to former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden, a Foreign Ministry spokesman said on Tuesday, adding that it will leave the request unanswered.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
NO Cicero... I listed COUNTRIES, not GOVERNMENTS, which was what Bumbler was discussing. I also misspelled a word and probably used incorrect punctuation... if you want to get prissy... but since Bumbler was discussing C O U N T R I E S... Per Bumblers post: ~ " Countries, such as Russia and China," ~" The 'citizen's of the world' have now united with Snowden and the countries that are supporting them" ~ "Our country has nothing more than military might left"
I think "Prissy Cissy" needs to get laid!
Read bumbles post again, it reads "citizens of the world" are unite and the countries that support him. You list GOVERNMENTS that denied asylum. There will be some time until the political fallout is realized by the governments that denied asylum.
Read bumbles post again, it reads "citizens of the world" are unite and the countries that support him. You list GOVERNMENTS that denied asylum. There will be some time until the political fallout is realized by the governments that denied asylum.
WOW!!!! I didn't think this was so difficult to understand!!! Thanks for clarifing the 'obvious'!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
SO America wasn't at war in Iraq or Afghanistan... It was only the GOVERNMENT that was at war... Not the American people. So if you're not in the GOVERNMENT, you can't go to war... RIGHT???
Cissy loves to play with words.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
SO America wasn't at war in Iraq or Afghanistan... It was only the GOVERNMENT that was at war... Not the American people.
So the American people were spying on themselves and their allies?
Of course the American people were not at war with those countries. You said yourself the government under Bush lied leading up to the invasion of Iraq, now you want all Americans to own the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis? That's crazy!
If world governments continue to deny asylum and public opinion supports Snowden's revelations, it will become even more apparent governments represent themselves and their secrecy and NOT it's citizens.
So the American people were spying on themselves and their allies?
Of course the American people were not at war with those countries. You said yourself the government under Bush lied leading up to the invasion of Iraq, now you want all Americans to own the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis? That's crazy!
If world governments continue to deny asylum and public opinion supports Snowden's revelations, it will become even more apparent governments represent themselves and their secrecy and NOT it's citizens.
You know these words, you just choose to ignore them. " that "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
Like it or not... The GOVERNMENT IS US! Well it's all of us but you, since you refuse to accept any involvement... then no one can blame you.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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I didn't think this was so difficult to understand!!! Thanks for clarifing the 'obvious'!!! 
