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Henry
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If you love what you do you never work a day in your life


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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If you love what you do you never work a day in your life


YUP!  For those very few that IS true.  For Graham... who's never had a good day in his life, he
unfortunately has to WORK every day to support himself AND HE HATES IT!!!

But Graham does have his "Degree"!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Wow, a jetski! Uoooooooh! Like I never owned 3 or 4 of those by time I was 30!  

...they gave you just enough to be a living, didn't they? The Union made sure you had a pension to survive on! How great. What an indelible mark you made, being one of the many, but never leading... Members of the "masses" are so memorable, and did soooo much that they may even get a tombstone somewhere! Never built anything, never had the satisfaction of building it from scratch, or blazing a trail, or surviving without "banding together!" How nice.


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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There needs to be universal background checks on meat cleavers at the very least.  Maybe a meat cleaver registry.  Meat cleavers are only used for one thing, that is to butcher meat.  Banning meat cleavers may be something that should be explored.


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Wow, a jetski! Uoooooooh! Like I never owned 3 or 4 of those by time I was 30!  

...they gave you just enough to be a living, didn't they? The Union made sure you had a pension to survive on! How great. What an indelible mark you made, being one of the many, but never leading... Members of the "masses" are so memorable, and did soooo much that they may even get a tombstone somewhere! Never built anything, never had the satisfaction of building it from scratch, or blazing a trail, or surviving without "banding together!" How nice.


Yea a USED JETSKI!  
I've owned several sailboats, a bow rider, canoes, kayaks, a rowboat and enjoyed them all.
I spent my summers at my camp on Sacandaga for 30 years... um... while you were WORKING!
Oh yea... you were "building something", not WORKING!  
LMAO @ by the time he was 30!!!
So what about now Graham??? Do you "play" or do you work???
You're always complaining about paying TAXES and how important PAYING TAXES is in your life...
Does your quest for the almighty dollar make you HAPPY, or is HAPPY not part of your life?
I'm sure that you do have some "happy time" every day when you come home from work and
go to your home shrine where you light a candle in front of your "degree"!






The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Woolwich attack: Lee Rigby named as victim

The murdered soldier has been named as 25-year-old Drummer Lee Rigby



Drummer Rigby, 25, from Manchester, leaves behind a two-year-old son.

Two suspects shot by police after Wednesday's attack in Woolwich remain under arrest. A further two people have been arrested on conspiracy to murder.

The two suspects who were shot, believed to include Michael Adebolajo, were known to security services.

Scotland Yard said the latest arrests were of a man and woman, both aged 29.

Drummer Rigby's family issued a statement on Thursday, saying: "Lee was lovely. He would do anything for anybody, he always looked after his sisters and always protected them. He took a 'big brother' role with everyone.

"All he wanted to do from when he was a little boy, was be in the Army.

"He wanted to live life and enjoy himself. His family meant everything to him. He was a loving son, husband, father, brother, and uncle, and a friend to many. "

'Popular and witty'
A post mortem examination was being carried out on Thursday.

The Ministry of Defence also paid tribute to Drummer Rigby.

"An extremely popular and witty soldier, Drummer Rigby was a larger than life personality within the Corps of Drums and was well known, liked and respected across the Second Fusiliers.

"He was a passionate and life-long Manchester United fan."

Drummer Rigby, from Middleton, Greater Manchester, joined the Army in 2006. He was described as a "loving father to his son Jack" and someone who would be "sorely missed by all who knew him".

In other developments:

The two suspects who were shot remain in separate London hospitals in stable conditions with non-life-threatening injuries
Six residential addresses are being searched: three in south London, one in east London, one in north London and one in Lincoln
Items were recovered from the Woolwich scene, police said
An increased police presence will be in Woolwich and the surrounding areas through Thursday night and "as long as needed", Assistant Commissioner for Specialist Crime and Operations Mark Rowley said
With dozens of witnesses to the killing, police are urging them to contact the Met's anti-terrorism hotline with information
US President Barack Obama says his country "stands resolute with the United Kingdom, our ally and friend, against violent extremism and terror"
Military charity Help for Heroes said since the attack people had been "spontaneously showing support for the armed forces"
'Senseless murder'
Drummer Rigby had taken up a post with the Regimental Recruiting Team in London in 2011.

"An experienced and talented side drummer and machine gunner, he was a true warrior and served with distinction in Afghanistan, Germany and Cyprus," said his commanding officer Lt Col Jim Taylor.

"His ability, talent and personality made him a natural choice to work in the recruiting group."

Capt Alan Williamson said: "Drummer Rigby or 'Riggers' as he was known within the platoon was a cheeky and humorous man, always there with a joke to brighten the mood."

Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said: "This was a senseless murder of a soldier who has served the Army faithfully in a variety of roles including operational tours in Afghanistan.

"Our thoughts today are with his family and loved ones who are trying to come to terms with this terrible loss."

Mr Hammond was asked if the attack showed how vulnerable soldiers were, whether they were in uniform or not.

He replied: "I think it reminds us how vulnerable we all are, but it also reminds us, by the response of the public, that we are not going to be cowed by this kind of terrorist action."

Chief of Defence Staff General Sir David Richards said: "It's always a tragedy, it's particularly poignant that it happened on the streets of this capital city of ours.

"We're absolutely determined not to be intimated into not doing the right thing - whether it's here in this country or in Afghanistan or wherever we seek to serve the nation."

And yet Obama and the left wing nuts still don't think terrorism is a problem.


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wow just when I thought threads couldn't get any dumber Graham ups the ante, thanks!!! First off, does it matter what religion these guys were, they are clearly nuts. There are crazy Muslims, Christians and atheists, etc who have all done the same thing, because guess what, they are f'n crazy. Then we some how this discussion turns to gun rights, lol only on radical right wing boards would anyone make this jump. Anyways FYI, when two guys you don't know surprise you with meat cleavers you are dead no matter what you are armed with. Also every time someone kills someone without a machine gun, it doesn't make a logical argument why people should have machine guns being legal, it only makes you sound stupid.
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Anyways FYI, when two guys you don't know surprise you with meat cleavers you are dead no matter what you are armed with. Also every time someone kills someone without a machine gun, it doesn't make a logical argument why people should have machine guns being legal, it only makes you sound stupid.


Well, if you followed the story more closely, the London attackers also had a pistol.  

BTW...If you are killed by someone with a machine gun, and you are prohibited from having a machine gun, you are then out gunned and the logical solution is to arm yourself with a machine gun.  Go ask the federal government why they are about to arm the Syrian "rebels"(AKA Citizens) with machine guns and other heavy weapons.  That would be pretty stupid for the federal government to do based on your brilliant logic.


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Anyways FYI, when two guys you don't know surprise you with meat cleavers you are dead no matter what you are armed with. .


Maybe but in that situation wouldn't you at least want some fighting chance over none, the laws there gave him zero chance of surviving, if a gun even gave him a 5% chance of survival wouldn't you want it even if the odds were against you. It took police 20 minutes to get to the scene and all the witnesses didn't help him at all, it proves police will not be there to protect you, people around you will not protect you, you must protect yourself even if you must break a law to do it. I bet everyone who witnessed what happened wished they had some way of stopping the attack but they were helpless in doing so because they allowed themselves to think the police could save them, its the same dangerous thinking that some want here.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Well, if you followed the story more closely, the London attackers also had a pistol.  

BTW...If you are killed by someone with a machine gun, and you are prohibited from having a machine gun, you are then out gunned and the logical solution is to arm yourself with a machine gun.  Go ask the federal government why they are about to arm the Syrian "rebels"(AKA Citizens) with machine guns and other heavy weapons.  That would be pretty stupid for the federal government to do based on your brilliant logic.


Words of wisdom about machine guns from a man who's never even held one.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Words of wisdom about machine guns from a man who's never even held one.  


...Ahhh, coming from the man who was permitted to carry a machine gun as long as he fired it at the government "enemy" of the day.  Murder for hire.  It doesn't pay much, so you didn't do it for the money, must have been for the sheer joy of it.  Oh yeah...to protect my freedom.LOL


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...Ahhh, coming from the man who was permitted to carry a machine gun as long as he fired it at the government "enemy" of the day.  Murder for hire.  It doesn't pay much, so you didn't do it for the money, must have been for the sheer joy of it.  Oh yeah...to protect my freedom.LOL


Not for your freedom, he doesn't give a crap about the oath he took and his posts prove it, I would say it was for the joy of it and the fact he was "ORDERED" to kill by the higher ups, remember you must obey orders  


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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To uphold and defend the constitution...
(The Real Constitution... not the one with the 10 orders I won't obey Constitution)


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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To uphold and defend the constitution...
(The Real Constitution... not the one with the 10 orders I won't obey Constitution)


Well we already know you won't uphold or obey Article 1 Section 8, the War Powers Clause of the Constitution.  


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Well we already know you won't uphold or obey Article 1 Section 8, the War Powers Clause of
the Constitution.  


Cissy... I know you don't see it this way... but people like me who put their life on the line to
protect people like you, will still serve this country, even when we know that people like you
don't deserve our sacrifice.  
You care about you, and that's it.  
I care about myself of course, but I also care about my country and willing to sacrifice for it.  

It's pointless to post this as you will not understand the concept.  You just don't get it and no
amount of typing on my part will get you to understand.  

Hope you have a nice Memorial Day!  I'm done for the night.  



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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