Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Schenectady 3.5 million in the black?
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Outside Rotterdam  ›  Schenectady 3.5 million in the black? Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 238 Guests

Schenectady 3.5 million in the black?  This thread currently has 2,709 views. |
5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Recommend Thread
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
May 18, 2013, 4:40pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
Mayor McCarthy and the City Democrats are doing a great job in Schenectady.  The good news is obvious in the surplus and in the steady pace of economic redevelopment.  Nothing more needs to be said except to thank the Ray Gillen and Metroplex for the wonderful job that they did to begin the Renaissance in Schenectady County.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 15 - 62
Tommy
May 18, 2013, 4:56pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
1,660
Reputation
56.25%
Reputation Score
+9 / -7
Time Online
62 days 22 hours 29 minutes
Quoted from Madam X
Was this story in the Gazette? The top local story is about Jack's Place. I am looking at the online edition and only seeing headlines, does anyone else see it there? Why would only one place put this out there?


I saw it earlier, but just now I couldn't find it in all 4 papers I checked.

The article was probably withdrawn because it's so nonsensical that it's laughable.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 16 - 62
Tommy
May 18, 2013, 4:58pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
1,660
Reputation
56.25%
Reputation Score
+9 / -7
Time Online
62 days 22 hours 29 minutes
Mayor McCarthy and the City Democrats are doing a great job in Schenectady.  The good news is obvious in the surplus and in the steady pace of economic redevelopment.  Nothing more needs to be said except to thank the Ray Gillen and Metroplex for the wonderful job that they did to begin the Renaissance in Schenectady County.


You're delusional.
The article has since been withdrawn because it's such a load of bullsh*t that the papers would lose credibility if they continued to run it.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 17 - 62
RotterdamResident
May 18, 2013, 4:59pm Report to Moderator
Sr. Member
Posts
481
Reputation
60.00%
Reputation Score
+3 / -2
Time Online
30 days 9 hours 5 minutes
Quoted Text
Schenectady finishes year in the black
No need to tap reserves to balance budget in 2012
Thursday, May 16, 2013
By Kathleen Moore (Contact)
Gazette Reporter  
Text Size: A | A

SCHENECTADY — The city finished 2012 with a $3.5 million surplus, Mayor Gary McCarthy announced Thursday.

The city also didn’t spend a dime of its savings. McCarthy had budgeted $5.4 million from reserves to balance the budget, but he didn’t need to touch those accounts.

That eliminates the city’s structural deficit, created because for many years it relied on savings to balance its budget. Auditors last year urged the city to stop spending its savings and match revenues to expenditures,

Finance Commissioner Deborah DeGenova stressed the surplus was calculated over and above the amount of money needed to eliminate the deficit.

“Actual revenue exceeded expenditures by $3.5 million,” she said.

McCarthy planned to distribute the draft audit, with details of how the city spent its money last year, at Monday’s City Council committee meetings. But on Thursday, McCarthy listed some details from the audit to show how the city reined in spending and increased revenues.

The Police Department came in under budget — a rare occurrence.

“The first time in the modern history books,” McCarthy said.

The department left unspent $173,000. McCarthy said it wasn’t a lot, but every cent counted.

“Just good management,” he said.

The Fire Department came in $265,000 under budget, and the city also saw savings in worker’s compensation costs, after an extensive training program to teach employees how to do their jobs more safely.

And the city did not fill many positions when they became vacant, postponing hirings or eliminating positions altogether.

“We just managed the vacancies throughout the year,” he said.

Other little savings added up, too. Turning off lights and mowing parks less often helped, McCarthy said.

“We get calls all the time — the grass is too high, don’t you mow the parks?” he said. “We do do it; we don’t do it as aggressively.”

Concerning revenue, he said the city had finally climbed out of the hole left when it stopped selling its delinquent tax liens to American Tax Funding. ATF had begun offering pennies on the dollar for the tax liens, and in 2011 McCarthy said the city was losing too much money in the deal.

He canceled it and began collecting taxes in-house. That left a gaping hole in the budget, and the city finished 2011 with a $4.8 million deficit.

McCarthy maintained at the time he was doing what was necessary to get the city back on solid financial footing. He pointed to the 2012 surplus as proof he was right.

“This is the planned progression of the city,” he said. “Now we’re much more aggressive in our tax collection. People are paying who weren’t paying for a long time.”

The city took hundreds of properties through tax foreclosures when some owners refused to pay. The threat prompted many others to pay up just in time.

There is a downside to the city’s improved financial condition, however.

“The negative is we won’t be classified a distressed city,” McCarthy said, referring to a new program that might have sent more state aid to the city. “We’re solving our problems internally.”

But the city still has a long way to go.

“I’ve got to continue that in 2013 and 2014 to show we’re on a trajectory,” he said.

For now, he’s used the surplus to set aside money for several emergency accounts, including one for tax stabilization. That account could be used to reduce a sudden increase in taxes in a bad year.

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2013/may/16/schenectady-finishes-year-black/


"Holy crap!! Did she EAT Bob??"

Not everything on the Interweb is truth. Only a gullible fool would believe otherwise.

I am neither Left wing nor Right wing. I am gro-wing.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 18 - 62
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
May 18, 2013, 6:01pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
Quoted from Tommy


You're delusional.
The article has since been withdrawn because it's such a load of bullsh*t that the papers would lose credibility if they continued to run it.


I really couldn't care less what you think about me or the issue at hand.  Mayor McCarthy is doing a great job and Schenectady County is doing quite well.  So as far as I am concerned, you and your circle#%&@ friends can piss, whine and complain until you keel over.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 19 - 62
bumblethru
May 18, 2013, 6:17pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
30,841
Reputation
78.26%
Reputation Score
+36 / -10
Time Online
412 days 18 hours 59 minutes
how much do they owe the county?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
Logged
Private Message Reply: 20 - 62
Tommy
May 18, 2013, 6:21pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
1,660
Reputation
56.25%
Reputation Score
+9 / -7
Time Online
62 days 22 hours 29 minutes


I really couldn't care less what you think about me or the issue at hand.  Mayor McCarthy is doing a great job and Schenectady County is doing quite well.  So as far as I am concerned, you and your circle#%&@ friends can piss, whine and complain until you keel over.


Good. Fix the roads then jacka$$.
Or better yet, put State St back to the way it was.
What moron thought of that?
I traveled from Brandywine ave, to Rt 155 this afternoon.
It was bumper to bumper(which encourages accidents), 20MPH the entire length until I hit Balltown Rd, where traffic was travelling at 45MPH, safely, and comfortably.

Circle jerk? You continue to sound like you're just giving straight up blow jobs to the clowns downtown.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 21 - 62
Tommy
May 18, 2013, 6:23pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
1,660
Reputation
56.25%
Reputation Score
+9 / -7
Time Online
62 days 22 hours 29 minutes
Quoted from bumblethru
how much do they owe the county?


I'd imagine that I too, would have a hefty surplus if I didn't pay my bills.


Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 22 - 62
Madam X
May 18, 2013, 6:23pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
3,190
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+8 / -4
Time Online
26 days 9 hours 21 minutes
The amount they are going to court over is 1.2 million, if I recall correctly. Did they pay the school district the 3.7 million I thought they owed them?
This is quite confusing, to say the least.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 23 - 62
Madam X
May 18, 2013, 6:41pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
3,190
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+8 / -4
Time Online
26 days 9 hours 21 minutes
I went from the crosstown to Balltown Road and trying to turn into any business is harrowing, to say the least. I think they needed to synchronize the traffic lights or something at the end of that project but nobody did it.

I have a money saving suggestion for the city, get rid of the police commissioner, because that rogue cop is back on the payroll while the 'investigation' goes on and on. I think the investigation will continue until he has 20 years in.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 24 - 62
rachel72
May 18, 2013, 6:43pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
2,249
Reputation
82.35%
Reputation Score
+14 / -3
Time Online
68 days 1 hours 3 minutes
Quoted from Libertarian4life
the city only came in under budget because they refused to pay their own county taxes.


Does lawsuit signify strain?
Dispute over $1.2M in back taxes seen as minor blemish on city-county relationship
By Lauren Stanforth
Published 9:49 pm, Sunday, May 5, 2013

Schenectady

"The Democrats who control city and county government have strived over the last decade to appear united in most endeavors, whether it be through policies adopted or when election time rolls around.

But after what the county describes as "several amicable meetings," it has filed a lawsuit against the city seeking the right to begin foreclosing on tax-delinquent properties — or to force the city to pay $1.2 million in back taxes for 2012.

The kerfuffle began in 2011 when then-Mayor Brian U. Stratton, in search of much needed savings in the midst of the recession, decided the city could legally stop making the county whole for unpaid property taxes.

The tax bill at the time was nearly $1.8 million, and the city — which routinely paid the county in one lump sum — could expect to lose at least 10 percent (or $180,000) of that total as that amount of taxes was deemed "uncollectable."

The practice of the city paying the county its share of taxes in full dated back to the city's original 1906 charter when such practices were standard until 2011 when City Council amended the charter. At the time, it appeared Schenectady one of the only cities statewide that was responsible for making its county whole.

But in 2012, the county demanded the money, citing a legal loophole in which it claimed City Council did not pass the resolution amending the charter in time for the law to go into effect for the 2011 fiscal year. As a result, the city paid the county about $1 million out of its 'rainy day' fund, leaving the city with a balance of only about $75,000.

Now, the county acknowledges the city has the right to only pay the taxes that have been collected — but only if the county has the right to foreclose on delinquent tax properties and recoup the money just as the city does.

In a two-and-a-half page statement explaining the lawsuit, Schenectady County officials cited a history of amicable agreements, in particular the Schenectady Metroplex Development Authority's investment of a portion of sales tax money into downtown redevelopment. Also, the county mentioned its sales tax negotiation last fall with Mayor Gary McCarthy — in which some chastised McCarthy.

County Attorney Chris Gardner is recusing himself from the back tax lawsuit because he also assists the city during labor disputes. Local attorney Patrick Saccocio is handling the matter.

McCarthy says he can't discuss details of the disagreement, but said it's between city Corporation Counsel John Polster and Gardner and that "it's still an amicable environment."

McCarthy said the city still pays the county when it collects delinquent taxes, just not in a huge lump sum. Schenectady County Legislator and majority party leader Gary Hughes said he thinks the lawsuit was filed just to put a timeline in place to settle the negotiations.

"I don't make too much of the lawsuit to be honest with you," Hughes said. "I don't see it as indicative of a real change in the relationship," between city and county politicians."



SOOOOOOO, let me get this straight....LAST year the City had to pay the County back taxes which let a $75,000 'rainy day' balance. Now McCheesy states that there are $5.4 million in reserves this year.

All I can say is WTF????
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 25 - 62
Shadow
May 18, 2013, 6:51pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
11,107
Reputation
70.83%
Reputation Score
+17 / -7
Time Online
448 days 17 minutes
If the city has a $3.5 million surplus shouldn't the taxpayers be getting a refund due to being overtaxed?
Logged
Private Message Reply: 26 - 62
Madam X
May 18, 2013, 7:05pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
3,190
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+8 / -4
Time Online
26 days 9 hours 21 minutes
This is going to end up being like the story about all the houses the city sold with that program or all the jobs created by metroplex, I'm pretty sure, sothere won't be any refund for us. The thing that bothers me is that when you make up fluffy stories about dopey endeavors in real estate, that's one thing, but a municipal budget is quite another. It's an official, legal document with signatures attesting to its validity. I would like for the city to be in better shape than I thought, but I knew that bs in the paper about all the houses they sold wasn't true, and I suspect that this is more lies and misrepresentations as well.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 27 - 62
DemocraticVoiceOfReason
May 18, 2013, 7:38pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
12,321
Reputation
20.83%
Reputation Score
+10 / -38
Time Online
151 days 7 hours 5 minutes
For the record, it was Al Jurcyznski and the Republican crew who ran Metroplex that narrowed State Street downtown and made it the mess that it is.  The nayboobs have such short memories.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Logged
Private Message Reply: 28 - 62
Madam X
May 18, 2013, 8:20pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
3,190
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+8 / -4
Time Online
26 days 9 hours 21 minutes
Brandywine to Balltown is uptown.
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 29 - 62
5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Recommend Thread
|

Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Outside Rotterdam  ›  Schenectady 3.5 million in the black?

Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread