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joebxr
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Doesn't change the fact you asked a loaded question.

The only thing loaded is your shorts, and you stink!    ....you are just being a jerk.
Nothing loaded about asking an honest question....you just think
everyone plays games like you so it can't be a simple, honest question.
Go play your video games and let us adults talk!   STFU DUMMY!!!!


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JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Henry, this is a serious question and not baiting at all. But I have always wondered why
the average citizen would feel it's necessary to own a weapon like this.


I want to know who's an "average citizen" an "above average citizen" and "below average citizen"?  Are cops above average and get the AR15's easily convertible into automatics?  You seem to be concerned with the "average citizen" easily converting semi to auto, but not the "other" citizens.  

BTW...I already know you will say I'm below average(probably in ALL CAPS), so you can spare the wit and extra keystrokes.


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I want to know who's an "average citizen" an "above average citizen" and "below average citizen"?  Are cops above average and get the AR15's easily convertible into automatics?  You seem to be concerned with the "average citizen" easily converting semi to auto, but not the "other" citizens.  

BTW...I already know you will say I'm below average(probably in ALL CAPS), so you can spare the wit and extra keystrokes.

You are SUB PAR CITIZEN!
Luv how you are playing bait and accuse me...HYPOCRITE!!!!


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You are SUB PAR CITIZEN!
Luv how you are playing bait and accuse me...HYPOCRITE!!!!


Yes, I gave you an example of a loaded question.

Real question - what's an average citizen?  Are there varying degrees of citizen?  Are there other citizens that have more rights than the "average citizen"?


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Yes, I gave you an example of a loaded question.

Real question - what's an average citizen?  Are there varying degrees of citizen?  Are there other citizens that have more rights than the "average citizen"?

Real answer....everyone has their own opinion, and I'm sure that your opinion is the only one that counts,
so any answer someone would give to your questions would be attacked from another direction...hence LOADED QUESTION.....CISSY GAMES!!!
Go play angry birds!


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Henry
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Henry, this is a serious question and not baiting at all. But I have always wondered why
the average citizen would feel it's necessary to own a weapon like this. Especially considering
that with minimal ability, it can easily be converted to fully automatic.  Now I understand
about gun collectors, and "sport" owners, but other than that, I really am confused on
why anyone needs this type of weapon.


Because they can because it is their right. But also because it is lightweight, reliable, and accurate, aftermarket accessories for AR's are extremely common and the platform can be set up for anything, be it hunting, long range competitions, or a good self defense rifle. I personally like them because I have shot them for years and this is the best setup for me, for others they might choose another rifle that suits them better, its all about preference and what works best for the shooter. Lets say you are a hunter and your gun of choice was a Remington 700, you have your scope zeroed in and you know the ballistics of the ammo you shoot, would you feel confident in your shot if someone switched out your gun with another you are not familiar with, probably not.

Another thing people need to realize is that guns are for possibly taking another life, nobody wants to talk about that part or acts like it doesn't happen but it does. If someone is kicking in your door in the middle of the night would you rather grab a gun or a 9 iron golf club to defend your family. If you do grab a gun I would hope you are familiar with it and trust it will be reliable at that most needed time. I don't know about you or box but I want to know I have the right gun and the right amount of firepower to stop the threat be it 1 person or a group doing a home invasion. My opinion is I will use whatever is necessary to defend my family and you can be assured the last thing going through my mind would be what laws or what some politician thought of the gun I was using. But again it all comes down to preference or what is best for the shooter, some believe a shotgun is best for home defense, some believe a pistol is best, I would say use what you are best with.

If you are worried about full auto weapons you should know there are more states which it is legal to own machine guns then there are illegal states. The background process is far more complicated and you must pay a $200 tax on any gun but they're legal in most states. There has only been 2 crimes committed with legally owned machine guns, 1 of them was a cop who murdered another person. Illegal machine guns make up less then 1% of crimes committed with guns, so basically they're a non-issue and are not the weapon of choice for criminals.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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And you just as likely have never seen the damage that these weapons can do. Especially
to children.


So you seen personally what a 5.56X45 can do to a kid, yeah that doesn't surprise me one bit, what happened ricochet or did you just spray into a village in Nam





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Just try to order or procure a new sear pin to convert to full auto and the ATF will arrive at your house long before your part arrives.
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Because they can because it is their right.

Not exactly Their "RIGHT" as Henry posts it.  The 2nd amendment is not a RIGHT to ANY gun you want
or for ANY purpose.  

GunHuggers LOVE TO CITE The 2nd Amendment as their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, then they totally
disregard the US CONSTITUTION when it comes to 'Article 3 of the US Constitution' which deals with
the US SUPREME COURT.

They pick and choose which part of the US Constitution they wish to obey, and which they opt to disregard.

Just in case there are a few GunHuggers here who haven't read the Supreme Court Ruling on the
2nd Amendment, it follows:

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Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited.
It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner
whatsoever and for whatever purpose
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(SEE HENRY, YOU DON'T HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO OWN AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON)
For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state
analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions
on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of
firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions
and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. [United States v.] Miller’s holding that the
sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical
tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons.


Every time some drooling Gun Hugger shouts about his 2nd Amendment right to own an assault
weapon, be sure to point to the ruling written by the VERY CONSERVATIVE Justice Scalia that
says his RIGHTS ARE LIMITED!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Well....Well....Well.

What do we have here.

The first thing I'm going to say is the hypocrisy runs so deep and on so many levels ranging from the guy himself, his 'supporters' and from the judge that let him go.

The second thing I'm going to say about this is karma is a b**ch and I hope this hypocritical F*** gets the max.

OFC we all know that he won't because 'The Party' takes care of it's members that make 'mistakes'.

I also find it weird that gun control loons like this guy and Boxy have C&C permits.

Oh and best line of the whole story.... "Duh!!!...I didn't know I had gun on me." (yes I'm paraphrasing)


http://www.outdoorlife.com/blo.....reaks-law-he-lobbied

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NY SAFE Act: Gun-Control Activist Breaks a Law He Lobbied For


The unintended consequences of bad law can foster some amusing ironies, especially when they ensnare one of its most vocal advocates. Such is the case in Buffalo where a prominent gun control crusader who publicly lobbied for New York's draconian SAFE Act was arrested Feb. 6 on two counts of criminal possession of a weapon, including having a loaded weapon on school grounds.

When an anonymous call to the school office reported a man with a gun on school grounds, police -- including 20 officers, a SWAT team, K-9 patrols and helicopters -- locked down Harvey Austin Elementary School for several hours to conduct an exhaustive, expensive search that resulted in the arrest of Dwayne Ferguson, 52, who mentored students in an after-school program on campus.

Buffalo Police Department Spokesman Mike DeGeorge said Ferguson was in possession of a handgun inside the school. Although Ferguson has a permit to carry, New York's SAFE Act makes it a felony -- elevated from a misdemeanor -- for anyone under any circumstances to carry a firearm onto school grounds other than a law enforcement officer on duty.

Ferguson told WGRZ-TV that he frequently carries the gun and did not realize he had it on him when he went to the school as part of the after-school program. He pleaded not guilty and was released on his own recognizance, despite a request by prosecutors who wanted $10,000 bail. He was, however, ordered to turn in all of his weapons and to stay away from the school until the case is resolved.

News of Ferguson's arrest spurred an outpouring of support from many in the community, who said the well-known gun-control activist made "an honest mistake" in going into the school armed and, obviously, is not a threat to the students or anyone else.

Others say Ferguson and fellow gun control advocates have made their bed and, therefore, should sleep in it -- fleas and felonies included.

"What’s telling is the reaction of Ferguson’s apologists, offering excuses and justifications," writes Gun Rights Examiner David Codrea in a Feb. 8 blog. "While the observations of some, coming to the realization that a good person with a gun on school grounds can provide protective benefits, is hopeful, it also seems fair to wonder if the same support would be offered should a gun rights advocate be caught in similar circumstances."

"Honest mistake or not, Ferguson is accused of committing a felony and now faces prison," writes Thomas Lifson on Feb. 9 in American Thinker. "Ferguson sounds like a well-intentioned man. I doubt he was ever a threat to the students. But he pushed for legislation that makes felons out of people who carry firearms onto campus for any reason whatsoever, including by accident, or a wish to protect students from ill-intentioned intruders. Perhaps Ferguson and his supporters could use his prison years to reflect on the irrationality of the law they pushed for."





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GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

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LOL!  Throw the book at him!  Good to see the law applies to everyone!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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It would appear that the law doesn't apply equally to all.
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LOL!  Throw the book at him!  Good to see the law applies to everyone!


That would be the book of hypocrisy, right?

Seems to be a big thing for you leftist neckbeards this past week. Between this guy, Commie De Blasio making a call and getting his race hustling friend 'Bishop' Orlando Findlayter out of jail.

And the best one...

The NAACP protest in NC against the Voter ID law and telling the protesters in their flier to bring photo ID with them.

Yes Boxy, we know what book you want thrown at him.





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That would be the book of hypocrisy, right?

Seems to be a big thing for you leftist neckbeards this past week. Between this guy, Commie De Blasio making a call and getting his race hustling friend 'Bishop' Orlando Findlayter out of jail.

And the best one...

The NAACP protest in NC against the Voter ID law and telling the protesters in their flier to bring photo ID with them.

Yes Boxy, we know what book you want thrown at him.



It's like Bucky watches FoxSnooze and yelling at the TV does no good...
so he comes here and posts his rants as if somehow I represent his view of liberals.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Every time some drooling Gun Hugger shouts about his 2nd Amendment right to own an assault
weapon, be sure to point to the ruling written by the VERY CONSERVATIVE Justice Scalia that
says his RIGHTS ARE LIMITED!


Funny you bring up Scalia every time like he somehow speaks for me, box he doesn't and I don't give 2 $hits what he says, my rights come from my creator not my government, sorry if you don't like it


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