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Box A Rox
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Oh...Then you would support the "rich guy" taking his business and going over seas?  It will then be a paradise for the middle and lower class.


If his market is overseas and he wants to leave... yea but be sure to pay back all the billions of $$$
in tax breaks and incentives the b@stard took from OUR TAX DOLLARS before he leaves.  

For those Americans who want to operate here in the usa... most businesses, glad you are here.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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all i know is the the government is now becoming the largest employer in this country!
eg: obamacare is a huge 'government corporation' that has created hundreds of thousands of jobs nationwide.
....and in nys....there are more public sector jobs than private.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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A person with $100,000 to throw around is not a poor person .. and some would say is not even a middle class person.


George Amedore & Christian Klueg for NYS Senate 2016
Pete Vroman for State Assembly 2016[/size][/color]

"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground."
Lyndon Baines Johnson
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all i know is the the government is now becoming the largest employer in this country!
eg: obamacare is a huge 'government corporation' that has created hundreds of thousands of jobs
nationwide.


US Public Sector jobs, Bush vs Obama. 1st term:


Bumbler is full of $hit.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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....and in nys....there are more public sector jobs than private.


New York State
Department of Labor
Albany, NY (March 07, 2013)

NYS Breaks State Record for Continuous Private Sector Job Growth
17 Months of Job Growth with 29,600 Jobs Added in January
Nearly 1 in 5 Jobs in the Nation were Created in New York



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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  FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  THURSDAY, AUG. 23, 2012
State and Local Governments Employ 16.4 Million Full-Time Equivalent Employees in 2011, Census Bureau Reports

In March 2011, there were 16.4 million full-time equivalent employees working in state and local governments in the U.S., down 1.4 percent from 2010. According to estimates released today by the U.S. Census Bureau, the majority of these employees (8.9 million) worked in education, followed by those working in hospitals (964,381), police protection (923,951) and corrections (717,940).

These estimates come from the 2011 Annual Survey of Public Employment & Payroll. The survey shows totals for state and local government full-time and part-time employment and details employment by government function at the national and state level. To arrive at the full-time equivalent employee calculation, the number of full-time employees is added to the number of hours worked by part-time employees divided by the standard number of hours for a full-time employee.
Local Government Employment

Local governments — which include counties, cities, townships, special districts and school districts — accounted for 12.0 million full-time equivalent employees in 2011, down 204,781 in full-time equivalent employees from 2010. Part-time state and local government employees numbered 4.9 million in 2011, an increase of 22,770 from 2010. Education accounted for the largest percentage of local government employment in the nation, with 7.0 million full-time equivalent employees (58.7 percent).

Between March 2010 and March 2011, most states saw decreases or no statistically significant change in local government full-time equivalent employees. Arizona showed the biggest percentage decline (7.0 percent) from 2010. Other states showing a decline of at least 4.0 percent were Indiana (6.1 percent), Michigan (5.9 percent), New Jersey (4.9 percent) and New York (4.2 percent).

Arkansas saw the largest increase in local government full-time equivalent employees (13.3 percent) from 2010 to 2011. Other states showing an increase of at least 4.0 percent were Louisiana (4.5 percent), Maine (5.3 percent), Utah (4.5 percent) and Wyoming (5.6 percent).

The number of local government part-time employees in the U.S. increased from March 2010 to March 2011, with an overall gain of 10,021 employees. Mississippi had the largest gain in local part-time employment (up 14.7 percent), while Maine had the largest percentage decline of part-time employment (down 16.1 percent) from March 2010 to March 2011.
State Government Employment

State governments employed 4.4 million full-time equivalent employees in 2011, down 0.4 percent from 2010. Education accounted for the largest percentage of state government employment in the nation, with 1.8 million full-time equivalent employees (42.4 percent).

Half of the 50 state governments saw decreases in full-time equivalent employment between 2010 and 2011, with Louisiana leading with a 4.9 percent decline. Following Louisiana were Massachusetts (3.5 percent), New Jersey (3.4 percent), Oklahoma (3.1 percent) and New York (3.0 percent).

North Carolina saw the largest percent increase in full-time equivalent employees (5.4 percent), adding 7,955 to its workforce. Following North Carolina in increased full-time equivalent employment were Utah (4.3 percent), Tennessee (4.0 percent), Arizona (3.0 percent) and North Dakota (2.5 percent).

Part-time state government employees in the U.S. increased 0.8 percent to 1.5 million full-time equivalent employees. Utah showed the largest percentage increase, up 18.0 percent from 2010. Following Utah were Montana (10.4 percent), Indiana (9.6 percent), Arkansas (7.6 percent) and Arizona (6.4 percent).

Vermont saw the largest loss in part-time employment, down 20.4 percent from 2010. Following Vermont were Kentucky (10.5 percent), Connecticut (6.3 percent), New Jersey (5.5 percent) and Missouri (4.5 percent).
2012 Census of Governments                                                    
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al U.S. population      Executive Branch employees per 1,000 population
1962 (Kennedy)      2.48 million      186.5 million      13.3
1964 (Johnson)      2.47 million      191.8 million      12.9
1970 (Nixon)      2.94 million*      205 million      14.4
1975 (Ford)      2.84 million      215.9 million      13.2
1978 (Carter)      2.87 million      222.5 million      12.9
1982 (Reagan)      2.77 million      232.1 million      11.9
1990 (Bush)      3.06 million*      249.6 million      12.3
1994 (Clinton)      2.9 million      263.1 million      11.1
2002 (Bush)      2.63 million      287.8 million      9.1
2010 (Obama)      2.65 million+      310.3 million+      8.4+
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al U.S. population      Executive Branch employees per 1,000 population
1962 (Kennedy)      2.48 million      186.5 million      13.3
1964 (Johnson)      2.47 million      191.8 million      12.9
1970 (Nixon)      2.94 million*      205 million      14.4
1975 (Ford)      2.84 million      215.9 million      13.2
1978 (Carter)      2.87 million      222.5 million      12.9
1982 (Reagan)      2.77 million      232.1 million      11.9
1990 (Bush)      3.06 million*      249.6 million      12.3
1994 (Clinton)      2.9 million      263.1 million      11.1
2002 (Bush)      2.63 million      287.8 million      9.1
2010 (Obama)      2.65 million+      310.3 million+      8.4+


http://www.census.gov/govs/apes/

State employees -
3,779,258  full time    
1,534,267 part time

Federal
2,854,251

local
10,781,323  full time
3,318,107 part time

Military
1,088,465 active duty
709,265  civilian employees

total
24,064,936

Total population
315,000,000

minus

children
71,000,000

Adults
244,000,000

10% of all adults have government jobs.

Keep in mind these number only count jobs classified as government jobs.

All jobs paid for by tax dollars are technically government jobs.

Schools, teachers, maintenance and support staff are all government jobs.

If you take just the federal budget of 6.2 trillion, divide it by, let's say an average salary of $100,000,
that would come out to around 62 million jobs paid for out of federal taxes alone.

That would bring the number of $100,000 federal job equivalents to 62 million.

There aren't actually 62 million jobs, because 1.1 trillion is for pensions for former employees.

Next we have total 50 state expenditures coming in at $1,959,124,000,000

http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/budget/total-state-expenditures.aspx

Let's round it off to 2 trillion. Divide by 100,000 and you get another 20 million $100,000 job equivalents.

So we are now up to 82 million job equivalents.

Then you have local government expeditures.

$337,432,406,000 or 3,374,324 $100,000 job equivalents.

That's 85.374 million job equivalents.

That would be 27% of all adult jobs if all adults worked.

Even at that rate the government employs the equivalent of 85.374 million jobs.

They may work for Boeing or even one of the Mallozzi/Galesi government favored employers,
but they are all government jobs paid for by tax dollars.

Don't be fooled by Obama cutting Federal jobs. Subcontracting is still employment.

Approx. 44% of all dollars spent in the US are from the federal budget.

That figure is calculated by dividing the federal budget by the GDP(total US dollars spent per current year)

Another 14.6% of the GDP is state spending.

And finally the 2.3% spent by local governments.

That's 60.9% of all dollars spent in the US are being spent by the governments using taxpayer dollars.





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How much longer can the taxpayer continue to fund a very top heavy government that just keeps on getting bigger and bigger?
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How much longer can the taxpayer continue to fund a very top heavy government that just keeps on getting bigger and bigger?


How much longer can the taxpayer continue to fund a very top heavy corporate and wealthy class, that
just keeps on getting bigger and bigger???


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Stop using those companies you feel are ripping off the poor and middle class. I haven't used a bank in years and will only use credit unions.
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Stop using those companies you feel are ripping off the poor and middle class. I haven't used a bank in years and will only use credit unions.


Good for you.  That has nothing to do with companies and the wealthy not paying their taxes.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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As I have said before the tax code is unfair and needs to be changed but the halfwits in Congress won't do it because it might cost them re-election votes. Solution is term limits and they won't do that either.
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THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS INDENTURED SERVITUDE.....

no straw for the bricks unless the government tells them to dole it out....it's very well controlled....those 'rich' you speak of are
'handlers' by Box's Holy Government....

remember the virtual value must fit with in the world banking system to keep the rats running around the maze doing sh!t...all
under the guise of community ant ball......

Box thinks he found an enemy when in fact Box supports a system that whitewashes, so that Box's emperors clothes look proper
and Box can vote with a clear conscience


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Jobs:
4 Years of Obama Beats 8 Years of Bush


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Now that we have figures for the full four years of Obama’s first term, a surprising fact
emerges: The economy added more jobs during four years under Obama than it did in the entire
eight years under Bush.


By the time of Obama’s second inaugural in January, the economy had added a net total of
1,208,000 jobs since he was first sworn in four years earlier, according to current figures
from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That beats George W. Bush’s eight-year total of 1,083,000.

And so far, Obama is extending his lead over Bush. Counting jobs added in February, his total
now stands at a net gain of over 1.5 million jobs.

FactCheck.org


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