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Quoted from bumblethru
shooting them is cheaper than a trial and jail time....not to mention a 'forever silent' victim!

but wth....this is what our poor young american solders were told to do during WWII.....DON'T TAKE PRISONERS, KILL THEM......and they did!!!


When a cop uses his weapon, or even if he discharges his weapon by accident, it's a paperwork nightmare.
There is always an investigation, often lasting months, and lots of depositions, affidavits and hearings when
someone is shot.
No cop wants to go through that BS unless he has to.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Well if I had been in that same situation as the police this time and a gun was what I had in my hand I would have fired at the man also because I wouldn't have been able to choose the best option of running away due to the other guy there being wounded. I just wonder if we couldn't come up with a better plan before the fact for dealing with this.

"The shooting was justified", of course it was, somebody had a knife, but what if there was a procedure that could be followed that could solve the situation without the deadly force? I don't even think there is that much research into the matter, most of the knife attack research deals with what to do when you are unarmed and attacked by a knife wielder. And then there are the unhelpful homilies like "you bring a gun to a knife fight" which might make the person uttering it feel tough or smart but it is hardly up-to-date scientific crime fighting policy.

If there is better, more modern training available are we providing it to our police force? If there isn't, are we lobbying for that research to be done? We are a high crime city. If we are used as a crime dump for downstate, somebody has to advocate on our behalf for funds to deal with it.
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Well if I had been in that same situation as the police this time and a gun was what I had in my hand I would have fired at the man also because I wouldn't have been able to choose the best option of running away due to the other guy there being wounded. I just wonder if we couldn't come up with a better plan before the fact for dealing with this.

"The shooting was justified", of course it was, somebody had a knife, but what if there was a procedure that could be followed that could solve the situation without the deadly force? I don't even think there is that much research into the matter, most of the knife attack research deals with what to do when you are unarmed and attacked by a knife wielder. And then there are the unhelpful homilies like "you bring a gun to a knife fight" which might make the person uttering it feel tough or smart but it is hardly up-to-date scientific crime fighting policy.

If there is better, more modern training available are we providing it to our police force? If there isn't, are we lobbying for that research to be done? We are a high crime city. If we are used as a crime dump for downstate, somebody has to advocate on our behalf for funds to deal with it.


it's called urban warfare



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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