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Oak Street bridge in Schenectady closes to vehicles
By Lauren Stanforth
Published 3:38 pm, Tuesday, April 23, 2013


Schenectady

A small bridge that links the Mont Pleasant and Bellevue neighborhoods will be closed indefinitely due to structural concerns.

The Oak Street bridge, which is accessed from 8th and Cheltingham avenues, will be closed to vehicular traffic starting Wednesday because of deterioration in the steel piers that support the deck, according to Mayor Gary McCarthy. The state Department of Transportation cited the bridge, which was built in the 1930s, with a red flag for structural deficiencies last year.

The city says it has notified Amtrak about the problem, as McCarthy says the train company is the entity responsible for the steel piers. A rail line exists underneath the bridge.

The bridge will, however, remain open for pedestrians. Vehicles will still be able to drive between the neighborhoods from Broadway or Altamont Avenue.

The city DEM leaders REFUSE to make their multimillionaire cronies pay taxes so the city has no money to fix bridges.

But, DV says not to be negative.

So, bridges failing but we must ignore that, let's just increase taxes on the homeowners and cause home values to go down even more and that will help the city thrive.  


is that right, DV??????    Spend money on downtown while bridges crumble.  

Of course, he will not engage in INTELLIGENT conversation about the value of spending the tax dollars on downtown which produces no return on the investment, while the neighborhoods suffer with crumbling bridges.


It's the renaissance, bridges are crumbling and DV is so delusional that he thinks this is wonderful.

It is obvious by the repeated, nonsensical, looney rants of the mad monkey that he/she is another thing that needs attention --- in a mental institution.

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

It is obvious by the repeated, nonsensical, looney rants of the mad monkey that he/she is another thing that needs attention --- in a mental institution.

It's the typical FACTS and TRUTHS, provided by OFFICIAL SOURCES, that I post.

But DV is so delusional that he cannot even post about a closed bridge failing despite homeowners paying ever increasing taxes while their home values are plummeting.

Someone call the ambulance, he needs to be taken to the psych ward

The city is trying to stick Amtrak with fixing the bridge....Amtrak will dig in its heels and it will go to court.
Altamont ave will just get more crowded as the people In Bellevue and the Heldeberg Ave neighborhoods will have no other choice....
This bridge will stay closed to vehicle traffic for months, if not YEARS

Quoted from 55tbird

The city is trying to stick Amtrak with fixing the bridge....Amtrak will dig in its heels and it will go to court.
Altamont ave will just get more crowded as the people In Bellevue and the Heldeberg Ave neighborhoods will have no other choice....
This bridge will stay closed to vehicle traffic for months, if not YEARS

New York Laws > New York Railroad (RRD) > New York Railroad -

Article 3 - 93 Repair of Bridges and Subways At Crossings

    §  93.  Repair  of  bridges  and  subways at crossings. When a highway
  crosses a railroad by an overhead bridge, the framework  of  the  bridge
  and its abutments shall be maintained and kept in repair by the railroad
  corporation,  and the roadway thereover and the approaches thereto shall
  be maintained and kept in repair by the municipality having jurisdiction
  over and in which the same are situated unless such  municipality  shall
  be  a village of less than twelve hundred inhabitants, in which case the
  town board of the town in which such village, roadway and approaches are
  situated may, by resolution, vote to maintain and repair the same at the
  expense of such town, notwithstanding any provision of law  limiting  or
  providing the amount which such town board may levy and collect for such
  purposes  without  the  vote  of a town meeting, but the property within
  such village shall be subject to the levy  and  collection  of  the  tax
  imposed  for  such maintenance and repair; except that in the case of an
  overhead bridge constructed prior to the first  day  of  July,  eighteen
  hundred  and  ninety-seven, the roadway over and the approaches to which
  the railroad corporation was under obligation to  maintain  and  repair,
  such  obligation shall continue, provided the railroad corporation shall
  have at least ten days' notice of any defect in  the  roadway  thereover
  and the approaches thereto, which notice must be given in writing by the
  town superintendent of highways or other duly constituted authority, and
  the  railroad  corporation  shall  not  be  liable by reason of any such
  defect unless it shall have failed to make repairs within ten days after
  the service of such notice upon  it.  



   When  a  highway  passes  under  a
  railroad,  the  bridge and its abutments shall be maintained and kept in
  repair by the railroad corporation, and the subway  and  its  approaches
  shall  be  maintained  and  kept  in  repair  by the municipality having
  jurisdiction over and in  which  the  same  are  situated,  unless  such
  municipality shall be a village of less than twelve hundred inhabitants,
  in  which  case the town board of the town in which such village, subway
  and approaches are situated, may, by resolution, vote  to  maintain  and
  repair  the  same  at  the  expense  of  such  town, notwithstanding any
  provision of law limiting or providing the amount which such town  board
  may  levy  and  collect  for  such  purposes  without the vote of a town
  meeting, but the property within such village shall be  subject  to  the
  levy  and collection of the tax imposed for such maintenance and repair.
  Where the roadway over a railroad, or the subway underneath the same, or
  the approaches thereto have been improved by the state as a  part  of  a
  state  or county highway, such roadway or subway, or approaches only, as
  have been so improved shall thereafter be maintained and kept in  repair
  by  the  commissioner  of  transportation  in the manner provided in the
  highway law for the maintenance and repair of state and county highways.
    

  When the roadway over or subway under a railroad  and  the  approaches
  thereto, for the maintenance of which a town or village is liable, shall
  have  been  taken over for improvement by a county as a part of a county
  road, such roadway or subway or approaches, for so long  as  the  county
  shall  remain  liable  for the maintenance of such county road, shall be
  maintained and kept in repair  by  the  county  superintendent  of  such
  county  as  a  part  of  such  county road in the manner provided in the
  highway law for the maintenance and repair of county roads, and  out  of
  any funds provided for that purpose, but to the extent only to which the
  town or village was liable under the provisions of the railroad law.

This is pretty annoying, I actually use this bridge rather often!

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When ..... unless ... in which case ...notwithstanding ... but ... except that ... provided... thereover ...   thereto, which ...unless ...notice upon  it.   ...

One sentence!  Try figuring which parts to take out of it, that don't apply.   Intelligent people like us "nayboobs" can do it, it needs some concentration.   Point to make, they need to write this stuff simpler, make several sentences based on the parameters


And that doesn't even include the next two paragraphs posted above.

what a pain in the a$$ this is gonna be!!!

And i agree....it will be close for months and months!!

Quoted from mikechristine1

The Oak Street bridge, which is accessed from 8th and Cheltingham avenues, will be closed to vehicular traffic starting Wednesday because of deterioration in the steel piers that support the deck, according to Mayor Gary McCarthy. The state Department of Transportation cited the bridge, which was built in the 1930s, with a red flag for structural deficiencies last year.

The bridge in front of GE was also structurally unsound.

They stacked a dozen I beams on the walls to hold it up.

They painted them yellow, so pedestrians won't walk it them.

Quoted from mikechristine1

will be closed to vehicular traffic starting Wednesday because of deterioration in the steel piers that support the deck,

Article 3 - §  93
   When a highway
  crosses a railroad by an overhead bridge, the framework  of  the  bridge
  and its abutments shall be maintained and kept in repair by the railroad
  corporation,  and the roadway thereover and the approaches thereto shall
  be maintained and kept in repair by the municipality

That is pretty cut and dry who must pay for the steel piers.

The city should deny AMTRAK travel on those tracks until the bridge supports are repaired.

That will get immediate action.

Just call AMTRAK and inform them their tracks are closed until the bridge is repaired.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Article 3 - §  93
   When a highway
  crosses a railroad by an overhead bridge, the framework  of  the  bridge
  and its abutments shall be maintained and kept in repair by the railroad
  corporation,  and the roadway thereover and the approaches thereto shall
  be maintained and kept in repair by the municipality

That is pretty cut and dry who must pay for the steel piers.

The city should deny AMTRAK travel on those tracks until the bridge supports are repaired.

That will get immediate action.

Just call AMTRAK and inform them their tracks are closed until the bridge is repaired.

I'm pretty sure that Amtrak, has federal right of way. They carry mail.
But thanks for playing.
Also, the railroads are a protected part of the military infrastructure.

Goofbags on this board keep railing (no pun intended) against the government (and apparently they lack the ability to discern the difference between local, state, and federal) and how someday (yeah, someday), they are going to rise up, and do something about it.

REVOLT! DENOUNCE IT ON YOUR BLOG!

Yeah, that'll work.

You lack the balls to do anything whatsoever other than to biatch and moan.

None of you are willing to do anything on the local level, no less nationally.

For the price of those stupid stanchions (remember those? Those things that looked like pawn chess pieces?) alone, that bridge could have been maintained.

Amtrak keeps their infrastructure in working order, because the alternative would result in disaster.

Schenectady, not so much.
They don't really care about what happens even a month from now, no less long term.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Article 3 - §  93
   When a highway
  crosses a railroad by an overhead bridge, the framework  of  the  bridge
  and its abutments shall be maintained and kept in repair by the railroad
  corporation,  and the roadway thereover and the approaches thereto shall
  be maintained and kept in repair by the municipality

That is pretty cut and dry who must pay for the steel piers.

The city should deny AMTRAK travel on those tracks until the bridge supports are repaired.

That will get immediate action.

Just call AMTRAK and inform them their tracks are closed until the bridge is repaired.

Actually, that's not such a bad idea.
It would force federal intervention upon this sh*thole, and it's practices.

Your lack of comprehension is ENCYCLOPEDIC!
Copy and paste is not a proper substitute for having an actual grasp of the situation.

You and Senders, should have children together, considering you have/lack the same skill sets.

Quoted from Tommy

Your lack of comprehension is ENCYCLOPEDIC!
Copy and paste is not a proper substitute for having an actual grasp of the situation.

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