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GrahamBonnet
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the media is in bed with the authorities and won't cross them because they are afraid of them. I git that from a prominent reporter who's name you would all know. This reporter lives in the area and knows the score


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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So, if someone fabricated a charge   - the officers should have their names splashed all over the media regardless of proof?  I disagree.  
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Rachel Unions have a lot of power, in some cases too much but don't make them into this all powerful malicious boogeyman.  
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So, if someone fabricated a charge   - the officers should have their names splashed all over the media regardless of proof?  I disagree.  


That is the procedure for regular humans.

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So, if someone fabricated a charge   - the officers should have their names splashed all over the media regardless of proof?  I disagree.  


ARE YA KIDDING????

The average citizen's names are splashed all over the media regardless of proof EVERY SINGLE DAY! And THAT proof/information  comes from the knee jerk reaction from  COPS!!! OMG!!

Are you suggesting that cops get a pass? you gotta be kidding!!

OH...and might i add that the rotterdam double murder is running the rumor rail now. we heard (2nd hand) that there is someone  from the sheriffs dept telling a 'sick story' surrounding the murder. and they can say 'anything' they want cause the witnesses are DEAD!!

.........and yet you suggest protecting law enforcement???

Get a grip!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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So, if someone fabricated a charge   - the officers should have their names splashed all over the media regardless of proof?  I disagree.  


The SPD's website used to have the mugshots of people that were arrested and charged with a crime.  What do you think about that practice?  Damaging their reputations by putting it out there for friends, family, and even employers to see.  The SPD never showed a follow up for those that weren't convicted of the crime they were charged with.  

I'm sure if this cop isn't convicted he will get plenty of press to clear his name.  Something the mundane rarely get.


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So, if someone fabricated a charge   - the officers should have their names splashed all over the media regardless of proof?  I disagree.  


I had my name thrown in the paper with a very serious charge I had nothing to do with, after bitching about it the police said they had no idea how my name got in there and apologized, the paper offered to print a retraction but I didn't even want my name shown again next to that charge. The best I could do is hope people I know didn't see it and get a bad reputation. But the fact is this happens every day to people before they're found guilty or even charged with a crime, it's disgusting how it works but the police throw names out to the media constantly with no regard if the story was fabricated or not. In my case it was the police who fcked up and almost gave me a reputation nobody wants.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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visitor, there was some kind of road rage incident involving a policeman, that is without dispute. Putting the information out there protects the department's reputation from further damage. Remember, people knew about this already, and not getting out in front of it, to use a cop phrase, suggests a coverup. The guy either pulled a gun or he didn't, but he shouldn't have been getting into it with another motorist in the first place.

I feel bad for the average cop, I really do, the kind of garbage they have to deal with on the job day in and day out, and some of the younger ones trying so hard to do a good, professional job, and then something like this. Same old same old.

Maybe you can clear something up for us. The lawyer for this cop is making the claim that the cop couldn't have pulled a gun because he didn't have it with him. Is that standard practice for SPD? Because cops I know (not local ones) carry weapons off duty. Schenectady could be different from all otherdepartments, taking cars home but not guns. I really don't know. We seem to be living in a bizzaro world in this city.
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Proving he did not have his police weapon does not prove he did not have a weapon.

That is not a valid defense.

If a non cop proved his registered gun was elsewhere, the charges would stick.
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Madam X - Not sure if SPD knew of incident immediately. In a case of he said - he said, you would have to sort it out to ascertain whether there was probable cause.  

I am confident that the Chief wand Commissioner would not cover anything up.  I am also confident that the reasons for the delay will be known at the end of this.

SPD officers are authorized to carry off duty weapons.  Whether Hotaling had a weapon or not will hopefully get sorted out in the courts.

Once you're charged, the name is released because it is a matter of pubic information. When there is an allegation it may take time to sort out whose side is more credible, Glenville apparently did that and determined that the complainants were more credible than Hotaling.
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bumble if someone wants to make a complaint - the police can be sued if they do not facilitate the arrest.  once a formal charge is made - it is  matter of public record.
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bumble no one is suggesting protecting law enforcement.  feel free to put words in my mouth but for God's sake be accurate
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Rachel Unions have a lot of power, in some cases too much but don't make them into this all powerful malicious boogeyman.  


Are you serious Visitor??!!! In Schenectady, the UNIONS RUN THE CITY! They steal millions of taxpayer dollars (lucrative retirement ...pad that pension 6 months prior to leaving), they have more generous medical and health benefits than most huge companies. They are draining the tax base with greed.

Look at the school district. It fails more than half its students, many fail to graduate and there is over $150 million poured into the district. And doesn't the SPD use something like almost all of the City tax revenues collected??

Summers almost here, don't give me a snowjob.

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Quoted from rachel72


Summers almost here, don't give me a snowjob.



Haaaa  


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I wonder if the incident looked like this





"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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