Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
Assessments
Rotterdam NY...the people's voice    Rotterdam's Virtual Internet Community    Outside Rotterdam  ›  Assessments Moderators: Admin
Users Browsing Forum
No Members and 255 Guests

Assessments  This thread currently has 597 views. |
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
Madam X
April 12, 2013, 4:20pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
3,190
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+8 / -4
Time Online
26 days 9 hours 21 minutes
Anyone thinking of going down to have one of those "informal talks" with the assessor in Schenectady can forget about it. You need an appointment, and you can't get an appointment.
Logged Offline
Private Message
rpforpres
April 12, 2013, 5:08pm Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
3,891
Reputation
89.47%
Reputation Score
+17 / -2
Time Online
113 days 4 hours 29 minutes
I was going to call to get the informal, is she not doing them?
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 1 - 11
mikechristine1
April 12, 2013, 5:10pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
9,074
Reputation
71.88%
Reputation Score
+23 / -9
Time Online
99 days 18 hours 36 minutes
It is a requirement by the state that local assessors have informal meetings with property owners if the property owners request.  That is part of the "assessment process" and the evidence IS FOUND on the state website.

The purpose of such informal meeting/review is to obviously talk to the asessor, make sure the information is correct, e.g., number of bathrooms for example or one family vs two family.  These reviews I believe have always been held following a complete reassessment.

Such informal review is intended to be a means for the assessor to explain why the assessor's office has assessed a property in the amount that it has done so.  Logically an assessor might say to a homeowner "well yes, X number of houses have sold, but half were estate sales...." thus not an open market sale, homeowners don't exactly have enough to know whether a house sold because it's an estate sale or an open market.

The board of assessment listens to the homeowner and listens to the assessor.   But the board doesn't get involved in explaining why something is what it is assessed for.  Now, you might say during a board grievance "the city has might house listed as a 3 family, it is only a two family, it has only two kitchens and two baths, see, here are photos of a walk-through the house."   Then the assessor would have to tel the board why the assessor claims it's 3 family, and I would think, provide proof.

But realize that if the assessor has the informal review, this reduces the number of grievances, it eliminates the need for said homeowners to go through all the prep work and paperwork, etc.

So it would be nice if the city of Schenectady assessor's office followed the requirements of the state.  However, we "nayboobs" have the intelligence to know that the mayor would NEVER allow the assessor to have meetings with homeowners, after all, why does his cronies on the board of assessment merely say "denied-insufficient data."   ????     For the assesor to meet with homeowners in Schenectady city would result in the assessor having to give in to the homeowners, then the tentative assessment roll would have lower assessments and other potential grievants would see lower assessments on the tentative roll which would make them more likely to grieve.

Another reason why the city (of Schenectady) assessor does not follow the process of this state is because who is the head of the state's real property office?   It's the savage woman, a dem crony of the city, so she is not going to crack the whip on the city.

It's a guaranteed fact, and ALL THE EVIDENCE PROVES that the ONLY way to get your assessment lowered in the city of Schdy is to go to the court levels beyond the board level, extra work, time, and money.



  


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 2 - 11
mikechristine1
April 12, 2013, 5:13pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
9,074
Reputation
71.88%
Reputation Score
+23 / -9
Time Online
99 days 18 hours 36 minutes
It's really too late now, these informals should be done in January, before the flood of annual STAR reapplications and stuff comes in which then that office is busy with to get the tentative roll together.

But, it would still be worth it to speak at POF at council meetings and read from the material put out by the state that speaks about the informal review and state that the city assessor is refusing peoples' requests and tell the council you feel you are entitled to know why the asessor is not doing the job she (or he, whatever in the future) is being paid by your tax dollars to do.






Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 3 - 11
Madam X
April 12, 2013, 7:12pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
3,190
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+8 / -4
Time Online
26 days 9 hours 21 minutes
She stated that an appointment is necessary, (wouldn't that make it a "formal" talk?) and they are "booked out".
Logged Offline
Private Message Reply: 4 - 11
mikechristine1
April 14, 2013, 11:42pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
9,074
Reputation
71.88%
Reputation Score
+23 / -9
Time Online
99 days 18 hours 36 minutes
Quoted from Madam X
She stated that an appointment is necessary, (wouldn't that make it a "formal" talk?) and they are "booked out".


"Booked out" = a lie, a claim of a full appointment calendar when the assessor will not meet with homeowners.

Doesn't matter whether there is an appointment of not, it's an "informal review."


From New York State:


Quoted Text
Step Three: If your assessment is too high

Often, an informal discussion between a taxpayer and an assessor can result in a sharing of information beneficial to both parties. If such a discussion does not result in a reduction in your assessment, and you still feel as though your assessment is too high, you may wish to contest your assessment.





"....contest your assessment." = a grievance at the board of assessment level.



Again, from New York State:


Quoted Text
How to Estimate the Market Value of your Home

Why should I estimate my home's market value?
Establishing your home's market value gives you greater control over your property taxes, insurance premiums, and the sale or refinancing of your home.  Many people hire professional appraisers to estimate their home's market value.  However, there's no reason why you can't do it yourself by following a few simple steps outlined below.

What is market value?
Market value is how much a home would sell for under normal conditions.  This excludes sales where the buyer or seller is under pressure to act, perhaps due to career relocation, death of a family member, or divorce.  Market value is basically an educated guess, but it can be fairly accurate if you apply the right method and consider all the important details.

A number of factors may affect your home's market value, including:
•External characteristics - "curb appeal," home condition, lot size, popularity of an architectural style of property, water/sewage systems, sidewalk, paved road, etc.

•Internal characteristics - size and number of rooms, construction quality, appliance condition, demonstrated "pride of ownership," heating type, energy efficiency, etc.

•Supply and demand - the number of homes for sale versus the number of buyers; how quickly the homes in your area sell.

•Location - desirability for a particular school district, neighborhood, etc.

How do I estimate my home's market value?
We recommend you use the sales comparison approach to estimate your home's market value.  This is the primary method used by professional appraisers and real estate agents to determine the market value of homes.

Begin by researching recent sales of similar properties in the local area.  The sale prices of these properties will provide a good place to start with in estimating your home's value.  Try to find sales of least three properties that are comparable to your home.  If possible, make sure these properties were sold under normal conditions.  You only want properties sold at market value.

How do I determine whether a property is comparable?
Look for these characteristics in determining whether the sold property is comparable:
•lot size
•square footage
•home style
•age
•location






Get three comparison properties?????????    People in Schenectady city present DOZENS (plural) of comparables, but the board of assessment members, handpicked cronies of Stratton, Savage, and McCarthy still say "insufficient evidence."


Cheerleaders are silent.







Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 5 - 11
GrahamBonnet
April 15, 2013, 9:00am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
9,643
Reputation
66.67%
Reputation Score
+16 / -8
Time Online
131 days 7 hours 47 minutes


they will no longer be silent


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
Logged
Private Message Reply: 6 - 11
mikechristine1
April 15, 2013, 5:58pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
9,074
Reputation
71.88%
Reputation Score
+23 / -9
Time Online
99 days 18 hours 36 minutes





ROFL !!!



  






Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 7 - 11
mikechristine1
April 15, 2013, 6:00pm Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
9,074
Reputation
71.88%
Reputation Score
+23 / -9
Time Online
99 days 18 hours 36 minutes
Must make a "campaign sign" in a pic like that which says McClaine for council, Kelleher for council, and Lazzari for council





Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 8 - 11
RotterdamResident
April 16, 2013, 6:13am Report to Moderator
Sr. Member
Posts
481
Reputation
60.00%
Reputation Score
+3 / -2
Time Online
30 days 9 hours 5 minutes
Quoted from GrahamBonnet


they will no longer be silent


Funny picture. I'm not quite sure of the meaning, but funny none the less. What road is that?


"Holy crap!! Did she EAT Bob??"

Not everything on the Interweb is truth. Only a gullible fool would believe otherwise.

I am neither Left wing nor Right wing. I am gro-wing.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 9 - 11
mikechristine1
April 16, 2013, 7:45am Report to Moderator
Hero Member
Posts
9,074
Reputation
71.88%
Reputation Score
+23 / -9
Time Online
99 days 18 hours 36 minutes
Quoted from RotterdamResident


Funny picture. I'm not quite sure of the meaning, but funny none the less. What road is that?



Drive around town, stay on main roads, you'll find the location.  

Think of it as a** crossings.

The third comment is more of a  








Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 10 - 11
Libertarian4life
April 16, 2013, 10:16am Report to Moderator

Hero Member
Posts
7,356
Reputation
50.00%
Reputation Score
+12 / -12
Time Online
119 days 21 hours 10 minutes



This is a historically well known part of town where all goats know full well not to be there without adequate self defense.

It isn't that hard to find. We only have 3 Thruway bridges.
Logged
Private Message Reply: 11 - 11
1 Pages 1 Recommend Thread
|


Thread Rating
There is currently no rating for this thread