Police: Carjacker killed mom and raped girl BY GEORGE M. WALSH The Associated Press CLAY — A man previously charged with having child pornography cut an electronic monitoring device off his ankle before carjacking a woman, fatally stabbing her and raping her 10-year-old daughter, authorities said. David J. Renz abducted the school librarian and her daughter as they left a gymnastics class at a mall in the Syracuse suburb of Clay, about 150 miles west of Albany, on Thursday night, state police said Friday. Renz bound both victims, raped the girl and drove a short distance to a spot where the girl escaped and was found by a passing motorist, troopers said. The motorist told 911 dispatchers he saw a man running away from the scene, allowing police to quickly send in officers on the ground and a sheriff’s helicopter in the air. Renz was caught a short time later near a wooded area. It was unclear how the girl escaped or when her mother was killed, authorities said. “We’re still trying to piece the timeline together,” Trooper Jack Keller said. The girl was being treated at a hospital Friday. Her mother died from multiple stab wounds. Renz, 29, had been charged in January with possession of child pornography and allowed to remain free under terms that included staying off the Internet and away from places including schools, parks and arcades. He lost his job at a supermarket, moved in with his mother and hadn’t been able to find other work after his arrest, according to court documents. Federal authorities said he cut his electronic monitoring device off his ankle shortly before Thursday’s attacks. Renz was arraigned Friday on murder, rape and kidnapping charges and was held without bail. The lawyer assigned to his case, Ken Moynihan, didn’t return a call seeking comment. The Associated Press generally doesn’t publish information that could identify potential sex crime victims and isn’t naming the woman to protect the girl’s identity. According to an FBI criminal complaint, agents who went to the North Syracuse apartment where Renz was living in June found in his bedroom four computers that he told them he used to view adult pornography. Agent Alix Skelton said Renz eventually admitted using the Internet for the past six years to download child porn to a drive on one of the machines, which he turned over to the agents. Technicians determined in November that it had an encrypted hard drive, and Skelton said Renz provided the encryption key. Agents reviewing the drive in December found about 100 gigabytes of child porn comprising more than 500 videos and more than 3,000 images, according to the complaint. Among the images were two showing sex acts involving prepubescent girls, said Skelton, a member of a unit that targets people involved in online exploitation of children. Renz was charged on Jan. 9 in federal court with possession of child pornography. On Jan. 29, a judge granted a prosecutor’s request for an extension of the time required for grand jury action so investigators could continue going over “numerous items of electric media” for additional evidence. Renz, who authorities said had no prior police record, was released after agreeing to stay at home at night with an electronic monitor and away from any place he might encounter children. But Renz removed the monitor, Executive Assistant U.S. Attorney John Duncan said. Federal probation officials were investigating what happened, including whether Renz was able to get around an alert that is supposed to go off if the ankle bracelet is removed, he said. Late Friday afternoon, state police turned Renz over to federal authorities, who will hold him for violating the terms of his release, court documents said. Duncan said the cases against him will continue in federal and state courts. The federal public defenders lawyer assigned to Renz in the child porn case, James Greenwald, did not return a call seeking comment Friday.
Luckily the woman didn't have a gun, it could have turned out much worse. The carjacker could have gotten hold of the weapon and went on a killing spree. He only had a knife, so this is an acceptable liberal crime.
Luckily the woman didn't have a gun, it could have turned out much worse. The carjacker could have gotten hold of the weapon and went on a killing spree. He only had a knife, so this is an acceptable liberal crime.
Such sensitivity...exactly what I would expect from you. Rhetorical or not, this is not a situation to be made light of!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Such sensitivity...exactly what I would expect from you. Rhetorical or not, this is not a situation to be made light of!
Not making light of it. Just glad it didn't turn out worse.
You know if there was an "assault weapon" involved, this tragedy would be milked by the gun grabbers for all it was worth. But unlike sandy hook, in this tradedy Joebxr wants "sensitivity". Please...I'm not surprised that you were silent while box-a-rox was talking about kids that died at Sandy Hook having 11 bullet holes in them in order to push his gun grabbing agenda. Typical selective outrage.
Unlike you it's not selective outrage or pushing personal agendas. I input my thoughts on those threads....you just don't think it had value that followed your agenda.
This is a situation that is sad and totally avoidable that happened. It has been reported widely that it is misnamed as a carjacking..... reports show he grabbed the mother and child, bound them, drove to a deserted area and raped the poor child. The girl escaped, thankfully, or she might have also been killed.
He was apprehended and unfortunately, (and that is TIC), he was beaten by at least one inmate in the jail that night and showed up in court next morning with bruises on his face and a broken nose.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Luckily the woman didn't have a gun, it could have turned out much worse. The carjacker could have gotten hold of the weapon and went on a killing spree. He only had a knife, so this is an acceptable liberal crime.
Yup or she could have shot and missed and endangered those around her, she did the right thing in not endangering the public even though it cost her her life. Her daughter didn't do what she was supposed to do and that was pee herself and make herself puke, I guess that is what is being told to women to avoid being raped
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Yup or she could have shot and missed and endangered those around her, she did the right thing in not endangering the public even though it cost her her life. Her daughter didn't do what she was supposed to do and that was pee herself and make herself puke, I guess that is what is being told to women to avoid being raped
Yes, this could have ended up MUCH worse if she attempted to defend herself with a gun. Who knows how many innocent lives were saved. As a society,we need to teach MORE women to fear using guns for their personal protection. We should start the process of gun fear indoctrination as early as kindergarden to make sure by the age of 18 they have so many irrational fears about guns that they will be mentally incapable of ever even THINKING of owning one.
Yes, this could have ended up MUCH worse if she attempted to defend herself with a gun. Who knows how many innocent lives were saved. As a society,we need to teach MORE women to fear using guns for their personal protection. We should start the process of gun fear indoctrination as early as kindergarden to make sure by the age of 18 they have so many irrational fears about guns that they will be mentally incapable of ever even THINKING of owning one.
You can also argue the opposite position that it could have ended better for her and her daughter if she had a gun. She may have been trained and very capable and he would have ended up shot or dead. Ther are 2 sides, you know!!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Yes, this could have ended up MUCH worse if she attempted to defend herself with a gun. Who knows how many innocent lives were saved. As a society,we need to teach MORE women to fear using guns for their personal protection. We should start the process of gun fear indoctrination as early as kindergarden to make sure by the age of 18 they have so many irrational fears about guns that they will be mentally incapable of ever even THINKING of owning one.
Oh don't worry that is already in the works, haven't you seen the progress being made in the school system, we now have a zero tolerance to any mention or form of a gun, that includes toy guns, drawings of guns, finger pointing, or even pop tarts being shaped like a gun.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
You can also argue the opposite position that it could have ended better for her and her daughter if she had a gun. She may have been trained and very capable and he would have ended up shot or dead. Ther are 2 sides, you know!!!!
That thinking is dangerous , what are you some type of gunhugger. She should have made a better attempt to call the police, they are the only ones trained and equiped to deal with this sort of situation.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
That thinking is dangerous , what are you some type of gunhugger. She should have made a better attempt to call the police, they are the only ones trained and equiped to deal with this sort of situation.
I'm open minded...I see more than one way, unlike a few others here!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Another sad thing about this tragedy is that the 10 year old girl is receiving therapy to deal with the trauma, and if she develops symptoms of PTSD like anxiety and depression and continues to receive treatment for the condition, she won't be able to purchase a gun in NYS to defend herself or her future family from the very trauma that caused the mental condition.
That poor girl was adopted by a single mother who is now dead and she has nobody to care for her so she goes back into the system. We have relatives who live in Syracuse who told us about the girls story.
Another sad thing about this tragedy is that the 10 year old girl is receiving therapy to deal with the trauma, and if she develops symptoms of PTSD like anxiety and depression and continues to receive treatment for the condition, she won't be able to purchase a gun in NYS to defend herself or her future family from the very trauma that caused the mental condition.
the sad thing is some people just dont know when to shut up.
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