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Libertarian4life
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Quoted from Shadow
Buck don't confuse him with facts. The scientists that study climate change need grants to exist and if they can't get any money to study this so called emergency they're out of business.


The existence of change requires no evidence.

To exist without changing would require total isolation from any other matter/energy in existence.

Climate exists and is acted upon by outside sources.

Smog filled cities is an example.

Everything that changes the climate  is not man made.

It is a fact that man has the ability to change the atmosphere.

The degree of cause inflicted by man is the issue at hand.

It does make sense to minimize the amount of change you cause to the atmosphere that we all share.

Henry Ford alone has made billions damaging the atmosphere, without any legal consequences.

Corporations are allowed to destroy entire forest while a regular citizen is regulated into minimum
allowable atmospheric/vegetative contamination or destruction.

This is brought about by government regulation.

In a free market, corporations wouldn't dominate the markets producing their massive destruction/pollution.

Adding additional government regulation to a problem created by government regulation is not likely to succed at reducing the impact on the environment, but will serve only to take more money from everyone to be used by the ever expanding government.
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here is some science/medicine:

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-the flu shot does not work. Even the CDC  has come out and said that flu shots don't work. Predicting which influenza viruses
from china will infect people in Chicago, Illinois a year later involves a fair amount of guesswork. Three studies  by the CDC between
1992-1995 showed 84% 87% and 76% of the flu people were getting WAS NOT in their flu shots. 'There is no evidence that any
influenza vaccine thus far developed is effective in preventing or mitigating any attack of influenza. The producers of these vaccines
know that they are worthless, but they go on selling them, anyway.' Dr. J. Anthony Morris, formerly Chief Vaccine Control Officer
at the US Food and Drug Administration. Well, "so what?" you may say. At least the flu shot doesn't hurt anybody. Right? Sorry! The
flu vaccine is associated with Guillain-Barre' Syndrome. The occurrence of hundreds of cases of so-called Guillain-Barre' paralysis
from flu vaccines resulted in some 4000 law suits. Over 3 billion dollars were paid out in compensation. Why isn't that mentioned by
the people in the mall giving the shots out like candy canes? Maybe because it's the only drug whose manufacturer is subsidized by
the U.S. government.


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As reported in The Journal of Clinical Oncology volume 16, Issue *, December 2004, pages 549-560. In a study entitled: The
contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancies, which was based on data from randomized,
controlled trials published from January 1990 to January 2004, the conclusion of the authors was:

'....FOR ALL ADULT ONSET CANCERS, CHEMOTHERAPY IS 97% INEFFECTIVE.'


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The weather is bad so we need the government to DO something RIGHT AWAY!


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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The weather is bad so we need the government to DO something RIGHT AWAY!


For an 'alleged' educated man, Cracker Graham doesn't seem to know the difference
between "weather" and "climate".  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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to change climate we have to tip the earth which in effect will change the weather 'predictions'


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Quoted from senders
to change climate we have to tip the earth which in effect will change the weather 'predictions'


We don't have to go as far as moving the planet to a new axis. It would actually cause much more harm than good.

If we can just move the South American continent a few hundred miles east or west, it will significantly disrupt featured ocean currents, thus severely changing weather patterns and the climate overall.

Of course, we will have to do this in a totally green and carbon neutral manner.





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GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

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Superman will save us



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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God is in control.
He created it....He controls it!

Oh there will be many weather changes.....it was predicted and used as a 'sign'.

Believe what you will

We'll all know when we die.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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OMG!

You have been taking false premise lessons from Box Of Rocks.

Your false premise is that because no evidence has ever been presented to you,
that you continue to exist after death, that no one can  exist after death.

Your hypothesis asserts that by using a lack of evidence that you are proving your theory.

The only thing proven by your theory is that your reality is custom tailored to feed your own beliefs.

1. If there is no existence before reality, then you must be spontaneously created from nothing,
when you are born.

2. Then when you die you revert back to nothing after your reality ends.

In a universe larger than can be measured, you have managed to state a theory that covers
all existence and realities, for all of creation.

Your failure to know something(ignorance) does not prove your conclusion.

Now for reality.

It has long been observed throughout our reality that matter/energy can never be destroyed,
only transformed.

So unless life exists outside of the matter/energy reality that we occupy, we can safely presume
that life is never created or destroyed, only transformed or converted.

So I state again, reality has never been proven to exist.



Oh my DOG!!!

You republican mobots make me laugh. I'm well aware of the laws of thermodynamics. I was just answering your assertion that reality isn't a proven fact. Like I said- in this universe I am real until a time when I'm not real. When I'm dead. I did not say, and I love how you republican mobots deceive, my energy was going to be gone. This concept known as me will gone, my energy will remain. No heaven, no hell- just energy.

This is for sissiero and the other republican mobots who don't understand why climate change is a fact. The data from many many elements that determine global climate is collected through the scientific method. Tried and true methods that is repeated and repeated. The evaluation of that data is done also through the scientific method- repeated and repeated through tried and true methods. Nearly all of science agrees that the world is warming and there is consequences to that. Some consequences can be seen now. Melting of the polar caps and oceans rising for example. Many scientists aren't subject to needing grants. So there goes that red herring down the drain. You guys just need to get over the fact that scientists are just going where the facts are leading them.

As George Carlin so eloquently stated- the earth isn't going anywhere- we are. We will be like other spawned species of the earth. We will go extinct. We aren't going to one of 2 amusement parks in the sky- one mean and one nice. What a crock!

Hey Libertarian- any proof for your god would be a groove!
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This is for sissiero and the other republican mobots who don't understand why climate change is a fact. The data from many many elements that determine global climate is collected through the scientific method. Tried and true methods that is repeated and repeated. The evaluation of that data is done also through the scientific method- repeated and repeated through tried and true methods. Nearly all of science agrees that the world is warming and there is consequences to that. Some consequences can be seen now. Melting of the polar caps and oceans rising for example. Many scientists aren't subject to needing grants. So there goes that red herring down the drain. You guys just need to get over the fact that scientists are just going where the facts are leading them.


This is what I love about the inconvenient truthers.  They cite the scientific method for the collection of the data, but seem to dismiss it when making the HUGE leap identifying human activity as the sole cause of the rising global temperature.  Sure, I have no problem accepting the data collected by thermometers and other scientific tools of measurement.  But to take something as complex as the climate on a planet 4.5 billion years old, and say the cause is due to human activity over the past few hundred years is not the scientific method.  It's pseudoscience preached by earth worshipers. I'm not saying the earth isn't worth taking care of, but don't bastardize science to push your religion.

How many carbon offsets have you bought Blowmaha?   Yeah, another inconvenient truther scam.  Plant fu(king trees to offset your "carbon footprint".  I usually go hiking a few times a year and shake the seeds out of pine cones to offset my energy usage.  It's kinda like going to confessional...It gets rid of the guilt.LOL



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Aw now wait a minute here,
Did they just recently get stuck in the Antartic Ice while going on a global warming expedition at Ant atrica?
Yeah they sent town the lates greatest Chinese ice breaker in the world to go down and cut it way through the melting antartic Ice.
It was so thin they could not get throught it>>
Damnn thinning ice...
Fer crying out loud!!
Wher the hell is Al gore when ya need him..
Oh thats right he up North gambling at the CArbon credit casino he opened... With that ketchup Princess.
Sheesh what am i thinkin...
So any way the antartic ice was so damn thin they all got stuck and even our coast guard thankfully siad screw them we aint sendin out boats into that thinning ice..
No way.
But the did manage to get some helicpoters through after the blizzard blew over.
But thank fully all the people genrealy had a good time taking pictures of the thinninjg ice and recording the recodr wamr temperatur about 1 degreee C


yeah holy crap it was one degree above freezing,,, gettin warm for sure.












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I feel sorry for those who use this for political points which basically is all it is, I feel worse for those who got caught up in the fear tactics which was brought in to expand powers to others. I've debated this issue with so many people it became boring after awhile, time gave the answers for me, just how some said all the ice caps would be gone by 2013 and well do I have to say it Nobody denies we go through cycles which is basically all this is, we had mini ice ages before and even those were found to be regional. Point being don't waste your time arguing with the fearful, no matter how much evidence or scientific proof you give them arguing against their theories it won't help. It will come down to name calling and redirection, and as we see above that is already taking place.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Quoted from Henry
I feel sorry for those who use this for political points which basically is all it is, I feel worse for those who got caught up in the fear tactics which was brought in to expand powers to others. I've debated this issue with so many people it became boring after awhile, time gave the answers for me, just how some said all the ice caps would be gone by 2013 and well do I have to say it Nobody denies we go through cycles which is basically all this is, we had mini ice ages before and even those were found to be regional. Point being don't waste your time arguing with the fearful, no matter how much evidence or scientific proof you give them arguing against their theories it won't help. It will come down to name calling and redirection, and as we see above that is already taking place.


yes,
good point






















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Science VS Politics


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The scientific finding that settles the climate-change debate

Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....IQAd6QfDM_story.html


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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