Quoted from Shadow

Australia’s newly elected prime minister pulled no punches when giving his thoughts on the country’s carbon tax, which he says must be abolished as quickly as possible.

“The carbon tax is bad for the economy and it doesn’t do any good for the environment,” Abbott told The Washington Post. “Despite a carbon tax of $37 a ton by 2020, Australia’s domestic emissions were going up, not down. The carbon tax was basically socialism masquerading as environmentalism, and that’s why it’s going to get abolished.”

“If the Labor Party wants to give the people of Australia a Christmas present, they will vote to abolish the carbon tax. It was damaging the economy without helping the environment. It was a stupid tax. A misconceived tax,” Abbott added.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/25/aussie-pm-carbon-tax-is-socialism/#ixzz2iw03Hw2R

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Quoted from Box A Rox

This kind of crosses threads but if you want to follow Austrailia, then check out their "Minimum Wage"
policy.

Yes, I totally see the relation between Australia's minimum wage and 'Climate Change'!

Oh wai...

No, this kind of has nothing at all to do with 'Climate Change' and everything to do with you trying to deflect from the thread subject.

So lets talk about this so called 44k year record...

Quoted from BuckStrider

Yes, I totally see the relation between Australia's minimum wage and 'Climate Change'!
Oh wai...
No, this kind of has nothing at all to do with 'Climate Change' and everything to do with you trying to deflect from the thread subject.
So lets talk about this so called 44k year record...

If you had bothered to read my post, you would have seen it was in response to Shadow's Post,
not yours.

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Quoted from Shadow

Australia’s newly elected prime minister pulled no punches when giving his thoughts on the country’s carbon tax, which he says must be abolished as quickly as possible.
“The carbon tax is bad for the economy and it doesn’t do any good for the environment,” Abbott told The Washington Post. “Despite a carbon tax of $37 a ton by 2020, Australia’s domestic emissions were going up, not down. The carbon tax was basically socialism masquerading as environmentalism, and that’s why it’s going to get abolished.”
“If the Labor Party wants to give the people of Australia a Christmas present, they will vote to abolish the carbon tax. It was damaging the economy without helping the environment. It was a stupid tax. A misconceived tax,” Abbott added.

And if you had followed the first line of the post in my response to Shadow's post, you'd have read the
following:

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Quoted from Box A Rox
This kind of crosses threads
but if you want to follow Austrailia, then check out their "Minimum Wage"
policy.

Quoted from BuckStrider

So lets talk about this so called 44k year record...

So now that we've gotten that out of the way... go ahead...
It's your post.  Talk about YOUR 44K Year Record!

just because a country has a higher MINIMUM wage doesn't mean it still isn't AT THE BOTTOM.....it's still the bottom with
less buying power......

Quoted from Box A Rox

So now that we've gotten that out of the way... go ahead...
It's your post.  Talk about YOUR 44K Year Record!

My record?
I didn't post that bullshit HuffPo garbage, you did.

But whatever, I showed it for what it was. Just another misleading, spun up, Chicken Little story based on falsified junk science

Quoted from BuckStrider

My record?
I didn't post that bullshit HuffPo garbage, you did.

But whatever, I showed it for what it was. Just another misleading, spun up, Chicken Little story based on falsified junk science

No, what you posted is a graph of the daily mean temperature of the Arctic area north of the
80th northern parallel.
Not 44,000 years of climate change.

A few weeks ago there was the story of the GE Nobel Prize winning scientist (For Box- that is a person with college degrees which you don't have) in the DG.

Here is his name. He is a local resident.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivar_Giaever


Box knows more than fellow liberal Ivar, because Box hear politicos spout who he puts his full trust in as if it were a religion. Now Ivar is an atheist and Ivar is a democrap. But Ivar has a few degrees (Box, that is what you get when you have brains and the will to study and stay on track.) Ivar declares that the THEORY of G.W. (sounds like something we should call G. WORST) is akin to a RELIGION. It is not a a FACT established by science.

Now Ivar is a scientist that actually won something called the Nobel Prize which is a little bit like when the union calls you "slacker of the month" which is something Box and the cafone piccolo J.O. Box know something of...

Here is what Ivar says:

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Views on global warming

According to The Wall Street Journal, Giaever has described man-made global warming as a "new religion,"[9] with references to a report released by the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee (minority), led by Jim Inhofe, in March 2009.[10] The report states that Giaever has said "I am a skeptic… Global warming has become a new religion."[10][11]

In a featured story in Norway's largest newspaper, Aftenposten, 26 June 2011, Giaever stated, "It is amazing how stable temperature has been over the last 150 years."[12]

On 13 September 2011, though honored as a Fellow, Giaever resigned from the American Physical Society over its official position noting: "In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible?"[13][14]

As part of the 62nd Lindau Nobel Laureate Meeting, Giaever referred to agreement with the evidence of climate change as a "religion" and commented on the significance of the apparent rise in temperature when he stated "What does it mean that the temperature has gone up 0.8 degrees? Probably nothing." Referring to the selection of evidence in his presentation, Giaever stated "I pick and choose when I give this talk just the way the previous speaker [Mario Molina] picked and chose when he gave his talk." Giaever concluded his presentation with a pronouncement: "Is climate change pseudoscience? If I’m going to answer the question, the answer is: absolutely."[15][16]

So please, don't take my word for it, take Ivar's. I am sure you can beat him in a debate, Box. And you- you no good illiterate guinea rat J.O. - you dirty peasant with b.o.- I am sure you would beat him in an argument too, since you are another genius liberal who is willing to roll over for anyone who will give you power. YOU are a disgrace to Italians.

Quoted from Box A Rox

No, what you posted is a graph of the daily mean temperature of the Arctic area north of the
80th northern parallel.
Not 44,000 years of climate change.

That's right, because it's factual and real. Those records go all the way back to 1958.

I didn't see where the data from 44k-120k years ago in the story, could you point that out?

Quoted from GrahamBonnet

A few weeks ago there was the story of the GE Nobel Prize winning scientist (For Box- that is a person with college degrees which you don't have) in the DG.
Box knows more than fellow liberal Ivar, because Box hear politicos spout who he puts his full trust in as if it were a religion. Now Ivar is an atheist and Ivar is a democrap. But Ivar has a few degrees (Box, that is what you get when you have brains and the will to study and stay on track.) Ivar declares that the THEORY of G.W. (sounds like something we should call G. WORST) is akin to a RELIGION. It is not a a FACT established by science.

Now Ivar is a scientist that actually won something called the Nobel Prize which is a little bit like when the union calls you "slacker of the month" which is something Box and the cafone piccolo J.O. Box know something of...

First of all, by the size of Graham's text, we can assume that he's not only drinking again, but he's
missed his 'anger management classes, which he sorely needs.

Read Graham's text and you'll have an insight into what drives Graham's anger.  
Graham has a degree... And you can see that he WORSHIPS anyone with a college degree as
if it were some kind of deity.
Graham has a degree...
The successful people that Graham worships all have degrees...
The world is full of successful people with degrees...
But Graham, even though he has his degree is a failure.

People like Graham don't get it. Graham thinks that as long as he has that college certificate, he
is ENTITLED to success. That Success will come automatically for him, and, of course, it hasn't.

Here's an education for you Graham... Something that your college degree didn't teach you:
~Arash Ferdowsi is a co-founder of DropBox, which is now worth an estimated $4 billion.
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~Matt Mullenweg started WordPress, which now powers 16% of the web.
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~Aaron Levie started enterprise software company Box, which could IPO at a valuation as much
as $3 billion.
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~Mark Zuckerberg has built Facebook into the world's largest social network, with over a billion
monthly active users
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~Stacey Ferreira (MySocialCloud.com.)
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

`David Karp created Tumblr, now the 9th-most visited site in the United State
(HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT) I bet Graham will have a stroke reading this one!  

~Dustin Moskovitz is one of Facebook's billionaire co-founders, and went on to start Asana.
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~In 2012, Pete Cashmore made Time magazine's list of the 100 most influential people, and
his web site Mashable is now one of the most visited online publications.
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~Now a Millionaire, Daniel Ek co-founded the wildly popular music streaming service Spotify
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~Before founding a million-dollar company, Threadless Co-Founder Jeffrey Kalmikoff was
kicked out of one school and dropped out of another.
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~Sahil Lavingia helped design Pinterest and launched his own company, Gumroad, as a teenager.
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~Zach Sims started Codecademy, which has over one million users and raised more than
$10 million from investors
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~The recently named CEO of AOL's content brands and former Gilt CEO, Susan Lyne dropped
out of UC Berkeley.
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

~Whole Foods Founder John Mackey dropped out of the University of Texas several times,
never graduated, and never took a business course.
(COLLEGE DROPOUT)

By now Graham is pulling out what hair he has left in anguish over these high school and college
dropouts. " HOW CAN THEY BE SO SUCCESSFUL WHEN I, WITH THAT PIECE OF PAPER,
AM SUCH A FAILURE"?

Also:
~Ansel Adams, photographer. Dropped out of high school.

~Wally “Famous” Amos, multimillionaire cookie entrepreneur, author, talent agent.
Dropped out of high school at the age of 17 to join the U.S. Air Force.

~Tom Anderson, co-founder of MySpace. A high school dropout.

~Gene Autry, singing cowboy, actor, songwriter, producer, businessman, author,
baseball team owner.
High school dropout.

~Thomas Edison ... Never attended any technical school, college or university.


The List Of Successful People Goes On Forever... and then there is Graham, with his degree.
  Poor Graham.  

Quoted from BuckStrider

That's right, because it's factual and real. Those records go all the way back to 1958.
I didn't see where the data from 44k-120k years ago in the story, could you point that out?

Ninety-seven percent of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends
over the past century are very likely due to human activities, and most of the
leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing
this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations:

American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Chemical Society
American Geophysical Union
American Medical Association
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
The Geological Society of America
U.S. National Academy of Sciences
And:
(Scientific Organizations That Hold the Position That Climate Change Has Been Caused by Human Action)

Academia Chilena de Ciencias, Chile
Academia das Ciencias de Lisboa, Portugal
Academia de Ciencias de la República Dominicana
Academia de Ciencias Físicas, Matemáticas y Naturales de Venezuela
Academia de Ciencias Medicas, Fisicas y Naturales de Guatemala
Academia Mexicana de Ciencias,Mexico
Academia Nacional de Ciencias de Bolivia
Academia Nacional de Ciencias del Peru
Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Académie des Sciences, France
Academies of Arts, Humanities and Sciences of Canada
Academy of Athens
Academy of Science of Mozambique
Academy of Science of South Africa
Academy of Sciences for the Developing World (TWAS)
Academy of Sciences Malaysia
Academy of Sciences of Moldova
Academy of Sciences of the Czech Republic
Academy of Sciences of the Islamic Republic of Iran
Academy of Scientific Research and Technology, Egypt
Academy of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy
Africa Centre for Climate and Earth Systems Science
African Academy of Sciences
Albanian Academy of Sciences
Amazon Environmental Research Institute
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Anthropological Association
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)
American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
American Astronomical Society
American Chemical Society
American College of Preventive Medicine
American Fisheries Society
American Geophysical Union
American Institute of Biological Sciences
American Institute of Physics
American Meteorological Society
American Physical Society
American Public Health Association
American Quaternary Association
American Society for Microbiology
American Society of Agronomy
American Society of Civil Engineers
American Society of Plant Biologists
American Statistical Association
Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
Australian Academy of Science
Australian Bureau of Meteorology
Australian Coral Reef Society
Australian Institute of Marine Science
Australian Institute of Physics
Australian Marine Sciences Association
Australian Medical Association
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society  
Bangladesh Academy of Sciences
Botanical Society of America
Brazilian Academy of Sciences
British Antarctic Survey
Bulgarian Academy of Sciences
California Academy of Sciences
Cameroon Academy of Sciences
Canadian Association of Physicists
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
Canadian Geophysical Union
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Society of Soil Science
Canadian Society of Zoologists
Caribbean Academy of Sciences views
Center for International Forestry Research
Chinese Academy of Sciences
Colombian Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) (Australia)
Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research
Croatian Academy of Arts and Sciences
Crop Science Society of America
Cuban Academy of Sciences
Delegation of the Finnish Academies of Science and Letters
Ecological Society of America
Ecological Society of Australia
Environmental Protection Agency
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
European Federation of Geologists
European Geosciences Union
European Physical Society
European Science Foundation
Federation of American Scientists
French Academy of Sciences
Geological Society of America
Geological Society of Australia
Geological Society of London
Georgian Academy of Sciences  
German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina  
Ghana Academy of Arts and Sciences
Indian National Science Academy
Indonesian Academy of Sciences  
Institute of Ecology and Environmental Management
Institute of Marine Engineering, Science and Technology
Institute of Professional Engineers New Zealand
Institution of Mechanical Engineers, UK
InterAcademy Council
International Alliance of Research Universities
International Arctic Science Committee
International Association for Great Lakes Research
International Council for Science
International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences
International Research Institute for Climate and Society
International Union for Quaternary Research
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
International Union of Pure and Applied Physics
Islamic World Academy of Sciences
Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities
Kenya National Academy of Sciences
Korean Academy of Science and Technology
Kosovo Academy of Sciences and Arts
l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques du Sénégal
Latin American Academy of Sciences
Latvian Academy of Sciences
Lithuanian Academy of Sciences
Madagascar National Academy of Arts, Letters, and Sciences
Mauritius Academy of Science and Technology
Montenegrin Academy of Sciences and Arts
National Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences, Argentina
National Academy of Sciences of Armenia
National Academy of Sciences of the Kyrgyz Republic
National Academy of Sciences, Sri Lanka
National Academy of Sciences, United States of America
National Aeronautics and Space Administration  
National Association of Geoscience Teachers
National Association of State Foresters
National Center for Atmospheric Research  
National Council of Engineers Australia
National Institute of Water & Atmospheric Research, New Zealand
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Research Council
National Science Foundation
Natural England
Natural Environment Research Council, UK
Natural Science Collections Alliance
Network of African Science Academies
New York Academy of Sciences
Nicaraguan Academy of Sciences
Nigerian Academy of Sciences
Norwegian Academy of Sciences and Letters
Oklahoma Climatological Survey
Organization of Biological Field Stations
Pakistan Academy of Sciences
Palestine Academy for Science and Technology
Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Polish Academy of Sciences
Romanian Academy
Royal Academies for Science and the Arts of Belgium
Royal Academy of Exact, Physical and Natural Sciences of Spain
Royal Astronomical Society, UK
Royal Danish Academy of Sciences and Letters
Royal Irish Academy
Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
Royal Netherlands Institute for Sea Research
Royal Scientific Society of Jordan
Royal Society of Canada
Royal Society of Chemistry, UK
Royal Society of the United Kingdom
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
Russian Academy of Sciences
Science and Technology, Australia  
Science Council of Japan
Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research
Scientific Committee on Solar-Terrestrial Physics
Scripps Institution of Oceanography
Serbian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Slovak Academy of Sciences
Slovenian Academy of Sciences and Arts
Society for Ecological Restoration International
Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
Society of American Foresters  
Society of Biology (UK)  
Society of Biology, UK
Society of Systematic Biologists
Soil Science Society of America  
Sudan Academy of Sciences
Sudanese National Academy of Science
Tanzania Academy of Sciences
The Wildlife Society (international)
Turkish Academy of Sciences
Uganda National Academy of Sciences
Union of German Academies of Sciences and Humanities
United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
World Association of Zoos and Aquariums
World Federation of Public Health Associations
World Forestry Congress
World Health Organization
World Meteorological Organization
Zambia Academy of Sciences
Zimbabwe Academy of Sciences

So we have Graham (with his college degree) and we have Buck who probably knows much
more than the above groups about Climate Science... Who Do You Believe?
Graham & Buck? OR The List Above?
A difficult choice!   

Quoted from Box A Rox

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This crosses threads but notice that the manufacturing centers of the world have the lowest minimum wages.

climate CHANGE is a fact.....

but it's been happening for millions of years.

ughh I can't believe their are people dumb enough to dispute that our actions are causing this. Quit putting your politics in front of the future of your offspring and their offspring and their offspring, etc... The scientific community is in almost unanimous agreement this is happening. All the reputable scientists who have no financial stake in this believe it's happening, wake up!!! Stop believing what your corporate masters tell you! Your listening to the 1% of scientists who are funded by energy companies who have a financial gain to be made by attempting to dispute what is clear and obvious to anyone with scientific training. Your letting your ego as a "conservative" overwhelm your common sense. Quite being puppets for the energy companies and the billionaires that run them, and help us find ways to slow down the destructive activities we are doing.