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Box A Rox
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Scientific opinion on climate change:
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The scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth's climate system is unequivocally warming,
and it is extremely likely (at least 95% probability) that humans are causing most of it through activities
that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, such as deforestation and burning
fossil fuels.


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No scientific body of national or international standing maintains a formal opinion dissenting
from any of these main points; the last was the American Association of Petroleum Geologists,
which in 2007 updated its 1999 statement rejecting the likelihood of human influence on recent
climate with its current non-committal position.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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So are "CLIFF HARRIS and RANDY MANN" two of the 27 climate change deniers???

You offer evidence of two "experts" and I offer (according to you) 77.  What makes you
believe these two and not the other (by your count) 77?  Other than your politics, of course.  


We have cycles as I always stated, your article you posted earlier agrees with this graph Saying that we are not seeing anything worth writing home about because this is a NATURAL cycle. At worst we might have to turn our AC down a notch at the peak of this cycle but I'm sure we will live, those before us did ok without our luxuries .


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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We have cycles as I always stated, your article you posted earlier agrees with this graph Saying that we are not seeing anything worth writing home about because this is a NATURAL cycle. At worst we might have to turn our AC down a notch at the peak of this cycle but I'm sure we will live, those before us did ok without our luxuries .


LMAO!  Henry!  Your naivete cracks me up!!!  

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"those before us did ok without our luxuries"
Henry, most of those "before us" did NOT do "OK"!  
Over 90% of earth's species are now extinct.  We are among the remaining less than 10%


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Galileo?  You are making my case for me Bucky... The CHURCH condemned Galileo and it wasn't until recent
times that the CHURCH admitted it was "in error".

Facts are the realm of Science, not the Church.
The Church is the realm of 'magic'.


Your right. The Church did sentence Galileo.

The Church was also a major sociological and political force.

The Church was not against science at all, or they wouldn't have published Galileo's books   or any other books based on the sciences.

The problem was Galileo questioned the accepted peer reviewed literature. Hyper-partisans don't like being questioned, let alone be proven wrong and they tried VERY hard to silence him.

Kinda like the IPCC.







"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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Your right. The Church did sentence Galileo.

The Church was also a major sociological and political force.

The Church was not against science at all, or they wouldn't have published Galileo's books   or any other books based on the sciences.

The problem was Galileo questioned the accepted peer reviewed literature. Hyper-partisans don't like being questioned, let alone be proven wrong and they tried VERY hard to silence him.

Kinda like the IPCC.





Box has a hard time with that.....the pendulum swings, even in science.....p.s. we're back to using maggots in medicine
again....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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MIT Professor Urging Climate Change Activists To ‘Slow Down’
January 14, 2014 5:54 PM

CBS Boston, Climate Change, Jon Keller, Richard Lindzen, WBZ


BOSTON (CBS) — A new proposal on climate change focuses on public health, energy, transportation and basic infrastructure.

Under the plan unveiled Tuesday, $40 million will go to help cities and towns shore up the power supply and keep the lights on.

Ten million will be earmarked for the coast, to protect it from rising sea-levels.

But will it work?

While the governor and others painted a dire picture of what global warming might do to us, others are more skeptical.

MIT Professor Richard Lindzen is a leading international expert on climate change.

“The changes that have occurred due to global warning are too small to account for,” he says. “It has nothing to do with global warming, it has to do with where we live.”

Lindzen endorses sensible preparedness and environmental protection but sees what he terms “catastrophism” in the climate change horror stories.

“Global warming, climate change, all these things are just a dream come true for politicians. The opportunities for taxation, for policies, for control, for crony capitalism are just immense, you can see their eyes bulge,” he says.

“Even many of the people who are supportive of sounding the global warning alarm, back off from catastophism,” Lindzen said. “It’s the politicians and the green movement that like to portray catastrophe.”    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/01/14/mit-professor-urging-climate-change-activists-to-slow-down/
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Dr Lindzen is a qualified Climate Change scientist... but his views are in the minority and today he's
considered an outlier on the topic.

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According to an April 30, 2012 New York Times article:
~"Dr. Lindzen accepts the elementary tenets of climate science.
~He agrees that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, calling people who dispute that point "nutty."
~  He agrees that the level of it is rising because of human activity and that this should warm the
climate."


However, he believes that decreasing tropical cirrus clouds in a warmer world will allow more longwave
radiation to escape the atmosphere, counteracting the warming. Lindzen first published this "iris" theory
in 2001, and offered more support in a 2009 paper, but today "most mainstream researchers
consider Dr. Lindzen’s theory discredited"
according to the Times article.
Dr. Lindzen acknowledged that the 2009 paper contained "some stupid mistakes" in
his handling of the satellite data.
"It was just embarrassing,"
he said in the Times interview.

NY Times
"Clouds’ Effect on Climate Change Is Last Bastion for Dissenters"
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05.....dissenters.html?_r=0


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"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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LOVE IT!!!!!!


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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"Climate Change"... is a FACT, by the vast majority of Scientists and 63% of Americans.
VS
"Climate Change Denial" by Politicians and 23% of Americans



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Peer review also said blood letting was a great idea too.




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

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"Climate Change"... is a FACT, by the vast majority of Scientists and 63% of Americans.


You understand that means it's an opinion and not a FACT right?  The only fact is that you posted opinions.


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