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joebxr
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The claim is this happened sometime after the Pope's announcement today


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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What site is the picture from?


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Saw it on ABC news a while ago, then did Google search....don't remember what site I found it on.


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Quoted from Libertarian4life


Just get it the Hell over with, we all know it's going to be Obama.



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i believe that the 'globalists' have influenced the vatican. this resignation doesn't make any sense. anyone remember how old and feeble the last pope was?

the 'globalists' need the vatican to complete their agenda for their 'one world order'. the next pope will be a liberal progressive or will at least will march to their drummer.


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he probably doesn't want to raise his arm at the next UN meeting...let some other schmuck do it....


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The Pope's Resignation 'Inextricably Linked' to Sex Abuse Scandal

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/director-alex-gibney-says-popes-421098


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER!!!!!

Now they know a bit or two about religion!!!


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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It would have been much better if Obama and Biden had resigned.


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It would have been much better if Obama and Biden had resigned.


I would be great if you stepped down.


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http://www.blacklistednews.com.....24245/0/0/0/Y/M.html

A Trail of Breadcrumbs: The Resignation of Pope Benedict and the Great Financial Collapse
February 15, 2013
Source: Richard Gleaves

On Tuesday, February 12th, Pope Benedict XVI shocked the world and his congregation with news that he was resigning the papacy; this is entirely unprecedented in the modern age. The last pope to resign, Gregory XII, did so only to solve a dilemma of leadership in the church. That was 600 years ago, and it hasn’t happened since. Every pope in 600 years has died in the arms of the church.

But not this pope. Regardless of what you believe, it is hard to fathom how, within the Catholic framework, he can justify rejecting the papacy theologically or practically. Despite the advantages of medical care and luxury, despite the prospect of remaining servant of God and meeting his creator as pope, he is rejecting his position in relation to God and walking away.


When something extraordinary happens, one must look for extraordinary circumstances. I think I can explain this sudden resignation, if the reader is prepared to follow a trail of breadcrumbs, link after link in a chain that connects five men. This is not a chain of five conspirators, necessarily, but is intended to show the links between our politics, our financial gurus, and our religious leaders.


First, Barack Obama. The president is bent on running the national debt to its limit. He is pushing to eliminate the debt ceiling, and calling for chump-change revenue while the government wastes trillions pouring cash down sinkhole after sinkhole of boondoggles, swindles and schemes. Every move he makes promises a parabolic curve of rising debt. Why? There are three opinions. Firstly, it is possible that he believes increased spending is the way to save the economy; perhaps his advisors have told him that the depressionary forces of the market must be countered by an inflationary monetary policy or else the economy will collapse. The second possibility is that he knows a collapse is inevitable and is buying time, either for noble motives (sparing Americans the pain in the hope that some last minute save appears) or venal (a shopping spree of spending while the reserve status makes it possible, to secure his constituency and reward his cronies). The third opinion is more sinister. Could Obama be running up the debt to cause the collapse? Who would stand to benefit? And what would happen afterwards? It is difficult to believe that this is the case. How would the man look in the mirror?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/08/opinion/krugman-kick-that-can.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/10/opinion/an-escape-hatch-for-the-debt-ceiling.html



The second link is Paul Volcker. Volcker is former chairman of the Federal Reserve. He knows the dangers of monetary inflation, having fought back the post-Nixon Shock inflationary wave of the 70s. He was Obama’s advisor on the financial crisis until January, 21st2011. On that date, he resigned his position, ceding it to G.E. CEO Jeffrey Immelt. What had he been working on in his last months? In September 2010, a self-appointed group convened at the grand Palais-Royal in Paris for what became known as the Palais-Royal Initiative. These men were former central bankers from around the world, acting (we are told) on their own. The group was assembled by Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa, an Italian banker considered to be the“Father of the Euro”. (He is also adored by George Soros, who named his own Euro-solution the “Padoa-Schioppa plan”) The purpose of the Palais-Royal initiative? To create a framework for the next phase of monetary policy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/22/business/economy/22immelt.html

http://www.georgesoros.com/articles-essays/entry/how_to_save_the_euro

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/2011/03/camdessus.htm

On December 18th, just before the penultimate meeting of the group, Padoa-Schioppa died, and the third man in our trail of breadcrumbs appears. The new leader of the Palais-Royal group: Michel Camdessus, French economist and former Managing Director of the IMF. The group came to its conclusion. The report of the Palais-Royal Initiative, issued in January of 2011 (and revised the next month) calls for the creation of a supranational banking power, outside the control of any government, which would issue the global reserve currency in the form of SDRs, a unit of account created at Bretton Woods in 1944. Essentially, Camdessus’ old colleagues at the IMF (and the Bank of International Settlements) want to take over international finance. We can't blame them for trying, right? Camdessus presented the document to French President Sarkozy, and the report was disseminated on October 5th, 2011 among the papers of the G-20, appearing on the abstract as a paper written specifically for the G-20.


http://www.imsreform.org/reserve/docs.html

http://www.global-currencies.org/smi/gb/telechar/news/Rapport_Camdessus-integral.pdf



One may well imagine the response to this paper: "This new banking takeover might work, Monsieur Camdessus, but is it right? Is it moral?" And now the Vatican comes in. We come to our fourth name, that of Cardinal Peter Turkson. Turkson is president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace. On October 23rd, 2011 (18 days after the G-20 presentation) the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace surprised many by coming out with a proposal that damned “the idolatry of the market” and called for a supranational banking authority identical to the one recommended by the Palais-Royal group. What are the chances? Coincidence? Not when you look on the list of advisors to the Council. There among the names is Michel Camdessus.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/24/idUS264245887020111024

http://www.omearaferguson.com/.....to-financial-crisis/

http://www.justpax.it/pcgp/eng/membri.html



And so we come to the last name on our list, full circle to Pope Benedict XVI. Why is he stepping down so unexpectedly? The answer is to be found, I believe, in the name of the man considered to have the best odds of being our next pope: Cardinal Peter Turkson. According to the Pope’s own brother, Benedict is tormented by the “Vatileaks” scandal, involving leaked Vatican documents indicating money laundering and corruption. This is not to say that Benedict himself is implicated, but he may well be resigning to protect the church, as acquiescence to someone’s threat to release more. Who would possess such documents? The financiers who are on the opposite side of the Vatican trades, naturally. Those financiers who want a new pope in powereter Turkson, who is fully on board, and who will declare the IMF schemes to be moral and just when the time comes, a man who is unassailable due to his skin color, who will be commanding the obedience of 1.2 billion Catholics.

If there is any truth to these speculations, whether you believe in a divinity or you don’t, I think you can appreciate and share the sentiment: God help us all.


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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I was thinking that myself, the Catholic Church seems to be going all PC all of a sudden, but they saw it work for Obama, the media will not criticize or question him very much.
I'm not a Catholic myself an ordinarily I wouldn't be paying too much attention to matters concerning the Pope, except that this announcement got a lot of coverage due to its being unprecedented, or so they say. What I would like to know, however, is why once this original newsworthy announcement was made, do the network news programs continue to run in-depth interviews with religious figures and speculate at length on this purely religious matter? I mean, these are people who will not acknowledge that the holiday the majority of Americans celebrate in late December is called "Christmas", they refuse to say the word. So why is religion now an acceptable topic? It looks like they are making an attempt to 'celebritize' and secularize the Pope.
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I was thinking that myself, the Catholic Church seems to be going all PC all of a sudden, but they saw it work for Obama, the media will not criticize or question him very much.
I'm not a Catholic myself an ordinarily I wouldn't be paying too much attention to matters concerning the Pope, except that this announcement got a lot of coverage due to its being unprecedented, or so they say. What I would like to know, however, is why once this original newsworthy announcement was made, do the network news programs continue to run in-depth interviews with religious figures and speculate at length on this purely religious matter? I mean, these are people who will not acknowledge that the holiday the majority of Americans celebrate in late December is called "Christmas", they refuse to say the word. So why is religion now an acceptable topic? It looks like they are making an attempt to 'celebritize' and secularize the Pope.


Since it ( a papal resignation) is something that hasn't happened in over 600 years, it is very easy to see why it is a news-worthy event.   The coverage has not been that "over the top" as you suggest.  Whoever is pope is a world-known figure and someone that most of the world -- even non-Catholics look up to for guidance and leadership.  Frankly, I think it is great that the Pope and the Catholic Church are getting this coverage -- instead of some stupid Hollywood actor or actress ... or .. equally as unimportant .. some over paid athlete.


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I stated that it was newsworthy to mention that the Pope resigned. I DID NOT suggest that further coverage was over the top. I was wondering why the networks, who avoid any mention of Christmas, and in fact say "holiday" when they mean "Christmas", are now interviewing religious figures at length and speculating on purely religious matters. You did not understand a word of what I wrote, and no, most of the world DOES NOT look up to the Pope for guidance and leadership. What a ridiculous thing to say.
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