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Bottom line - people are bitching primarily because of the bad economy and the City's financial crisis.  
If the City was flush, no one would care where the police lived.
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Government thugs?  Okay that's a reasonable conclusion


point being this ain't Mayberry anymore



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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we have made living a punitive life


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Exploitation?  Officers who move outside of the City do what they think is best for their families.  Some stay in the City because they think that is what is best.

Police are not going to have to live in the City.  Do you have any other suggestions?  

Live away from the taxpayers who provided their salaries.  The officers worked for their salaries.

If you think police officers living outside of the City is what caused this city's problems, you are mistaken. Retirees from all jobs can live where they want.


The New York State Trooper's have a residency requirement that says they have to be residents of NY.  

I never said that officers living outside the city was the cause of the problem.  I've always said it's corrupt politicians and a corrupt and far too politically involvedĀ police union.

The Schenectady City residents have been dealing with the SPD'S PBA president and Schenectady County Conservative Party President that was playing politics in their City from his McMansion in Rotterdam.  The top brass lived outside the city while influencing politics inside the city they collect their salaries from.  Maybe if the officers lived in the city, the politics they played in the city would be for the concerns of the whole city and not just how much money they could stuff in their pockets to bring back to the suburbs.


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The New York State Trooper's have a residency requirement that says they have to be residents of NY.  

I never said that officers living outside the city was the cause of the problem.  I've always said it's corrupt politicians and a corrupt and far too politically involvedĀ police union.

The Schenectady City residents have been dealing with the SPD'S PBA president and Schenectady County Conservative Party President that was playing politics in their City from his McMansion in Rotterdam.  The top brass lived outside the city while influencing politics inside the city they collect their salaries from.  Maybe if the officers lived in the city, the politics they played in the city would be for the concerns of the whole city and not just how much money they could stuff in their pockets to bring back to the suburbs.



It's telling that many of the officers don't live in the City. They see the crime, the filth, the waste Schenectady has become. They don't see it getting better - with a shiny Downtown and all.

Let's take this a step further down the road....remember when there was a proposal to have SCHENECTADY TEACHERS live in the City? That was shot down rather quickly by the teachers union and why???? Because most of the teachers, principles, admin live in Saratoga County and would NEVER matriculate their children in the City schools.

You simply can't FORCE people to live in a City when you're FORCING them out by increasing their taxes and fees every year.
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You simply can't FORCE people to live in a City when you're FORCING them out by increasing their taxes and fees every year.


Bottom line, people only come to Schenectady if you pay them.

And only if they have to, of course.
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Bottom line, people only come to Schenectady if you pay them.

And only if they have to, of course.


and if they have a 'playground' in which they don't get filthy in


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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The brass are not part of the union, so, how do they work with the Union President?  

RE: how much money they make, unions advocate for their employees.  The labor management process is flawed.  It does not have to mean corruption.  They system is not the most effective, efficient, or accurate means
for  determining labor issues.

Yeah, it's playground -clear you don't understand a day in the life of an SPD officer.
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The brass are not part of the union, so, how do they work with the Union President?  

RE: how much money they make, unions advocate for their employees.  The labor management process is flawed.  It does not have to mean corruption.  They system is not the most effective, efficient, or accurate means for  determining labor issues.

Yeah, it's playground -clear you don't understand a day in the life of an SPD officer.



But Visitor, in Schenectady, it is corruption.

Farstad comes to mind. Every handshake, backroom dealing Brian Stratton ever made with the City attorney (remember that free medical benefits for life deal?).

Everyone keeps looking the other way...distracted by this or that. No one wants to begin peeling the onion lest their hands begin to smell.
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The brass are not part of the union, so, how do they work with the Union President?  

RE: how much money they make, unions advocate for their employees.  The labor management process is flawed.  It does not have to mean corruption.  They system is not the most effective, efficient, or accurate means
for  determining labor issues.

Yeah, it's playground -clear you don't understand a day in the life of an SPD officer.


you're right I don't understand a days work of a police officer and the sh!t they have to scrape off the streets...

no one forced anyone take the job...nope, it's not mayberry


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Rachel - More of a problem of not having the competency to have a structured plan for management benefits.  That opens the door for all the handshake deals.
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Rachel - More of a problem of not having the competency to have a structured plan for management benefits.  That opens the door for all the handshake deals.


Agreed, but who in this City would even HAVE the competency or know-how to implement such a plan?? It hasn't happened so far and it doesn't look as if the Mayor even has a clue how to balance his own check book, forget about the City budget!

Everyone in this City is afraid to step on toes...it might cost them votes or a State lob job after Schenectady boots them. McCheesy made darn sure he could get his mayoral salary along with his State pension a week after getting into office. He won't be re-organizing anything .....
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